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Old 02-06-2012, 04:28 AM   #1
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Backing up 2257 information with DropBox and Evernote



Has anybody thought about using DropBox to keep 2257 information backed up off-site and to the cloud?

If your concerned about keeping model ID's on file "in the cloud" there is a 3rd party app called BoxCryptor which is also free (for up to 2 GB of data) that encrypts files "file by file" verses contained based encryption like TrueCrypt. The reason you want file by file encryption is so that when you modify individual files, the entire container doesn't have to be re-synced but only the file itself.



I've started a 2257 database scanning the relevant ID and contract information to my DropBox account then Evernote automatically imports those documents from my DropBox folder. This gives me search and tagging functions for the required 2257 search-ability requirements, but also Evernote (once synced + an hour or two) will OCR all the information on the ID so it's also searchable.

Using both Everote and Dropbox gives me dual company redundancy. In the event somebody conducts a successful key logging attack on me, I also have everything burned to CD's.


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Old 02-06-2012, 05:33 AM   #2
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I like both services,never used it for what you are doing though, heres a bump
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:44 AM   #3
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Yea... MegaUpload.

Don't put anything on there you're not willing to lose.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:47 AM   #4
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Good idea actually I would probably use it as an additional backup for the above mentioned reason.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:53 AM   #5
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Yea... MegaUpload.

Don't put anything on there you're not willing to lose.
dropbox and evernote arent exactly a cyberlocker.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:53 AM   #6
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I would not do that. I have mine on 3 PC's 3 External HD's and on DVD's as well.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:55 AM   #7
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I would not do that. I have mine on 3 PC's 3 External HD's and on DVD's as well.

Yeah but what if you house or office burns down with all that gear in it? Uploading an encrypted, recoverable file to two cloud services automatically is a lot easier then trying to physically manage backup drives and move them around, update them, etc.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:11 AM   #8
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We have it on the site, on out DH in the office, on a seperate HD, on Discs. Do we now need more?
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:23 AM   #9
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:55 AM   #10
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dropbox and evernote arent exactly a cyberlocker.
My point was don't use storage you don't control for important items. DropBox could go out of business tomorrow. Then what?
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:09 AM   #11
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I would not do that. I have mine on 3 PC's 3 External HD's and on DVD's as well.
That would be the logical way to store important files. And keep them in different places.
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:20 AM   #12
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you can use Amazon S3 account...
it's basically same as Dropbox but in "do it yourself" way...

You have program to access (upload and download) data, and you pay only for what you use... And you're safe if dropbox or evernote go out of business or get closed by FBI bcos Amazon is big player and serious company...

just my 2c

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Old 02-06-2012, 10:01 AM   #13
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Amazon S3, Dropbox and Evernote all are amazing!

As great as they are, I wouldn't trust anything to a single point of failure! I use Amazon S3 to do daily database backups and keep weekly backups locally.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:51 AM   #14
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Dropbox won't be closing anytime soon. I'm pretty sure they got $250 million in funding sometime last year.
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I don't know if it's legal in the UK to do this. The encryption would definitely be required.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:08 PM   #16
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:17 PM   #17
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keep a copy on your home computer, external for backup and if you must put a copy on your webserver that is not accessible to the public. I trust my own webserver and data center over dropbox or evernote
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Encrypting the files properly before they leave your office is critical, I think. Assuming that's done, it sounds like a giod idea to have offsite copies. Having it encrypted by the cloud provider is actually very nearly worthless. It's good marketing, but doesn't actually effect security in a meaningful way because if the provider can encrypt and decrypt the files, the bad guy on their system can use that decrypt function, generally. They can also intercept the files just before they are encrypted, just after they are decrypted, or worse secretly turn off encryption. So encrypt the files prperly, THEN upload them.
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Actually I just started doing exactly that, encrypted the files before uploading them of course.

I figure if i get a 2257 inspection call I will simply give em access and decrypt the ones they want...prolly wouldnt work but worth a shot.
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I figure if i get a 2257 inspection call...
Just tell them all of your content was user uploaded.
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evernote not a good idea http://antivirus.about.com/od/securi...vernotetip.htm
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Encrypting the files properly before they leave your office is critical, I think. Assuming that's done, it sounds like a giod idea to have offsite copies. Having it encrypted by the cloud provider is actually very nearly worthless. It's good marketing, but doesn't actually effect security in a meaningful way because if the provider can encrypt and decrypt the files, the bad guy on their system can use that decrypt function, generally. They can also intercept the files just before they are encrypted, just after they are decrypted, or worse secretly turn off encryption. So encrypt the files prperly, THEN upload them.

Better use a cloud service that uses delta files so you only sync the changed bits and not the whole file. Forget about google drive or skydrive it will upload it ll over again even if you changed only one character.

Use truecrypt containers and dropbox will just rock.
You mount a truecrypt container and do whatever you want, at the end just unmount and dropbox will sync it automatically
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