RIAA chief: ISPs to start policing copyright by July 1 (Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon, AT&T, Cablev - GoFuckYourself.com

GetSCORECash · 03-16-2012, 03:14 PM

On July 1, the RIAA will be sending ISPs (Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon, AT&T, Cablevision, and Comcast) offending IP address to the ISP that issued it, and then the ISP will issue warnings/penalties to the offending account owner.

"Last July, Comcast, Cablevision, Verizon, Time Warner Cable and other bandwidth providers announced that they had agreed to adopt policies designed to discourage customers from illegally downloading music, movies and software. Since then, the ISPs have been very quiet about their antipiracy measures.

But during a panel discussion before a gathering of U.S. publishers here today, Cary Sherman, CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America, said most of the participating ISPs are on track to begin implementing the program by July 1.

Supporters say this could become the most effective antipiracy program ever. Since ISPs are the Internet's gatekeepers, the theory is that network providers are in the best position to fight illegal file sharing. CNET broke the news last June that the RIAA and counterparts at the trade group for the big film studios, had managed to get the deal through--with the help of the White House.

The program, commonly referred to as "graduated response," requires that ISPs send out one or two educational notices to those customers who are accused of downloading copyrighted content illegally. If the customer doesn't stop, the ISP is then asked to send out "confirmation notices" asking that they confirm they have received notice.

At that time, the accused customers will also be informed of the risks they incur if they don't stop pirating material. If the customer is flagged for pirating again, the ISP can then ratchet up the pressure. Participating ISPs can choose from a list of penalties, or what the RIAA calls "mitigation measures," which include throttling down the customer's connection speed and suspending Web access until the subscriber agrees to stop pirating.

The ISPs can waive the mitigation measure if they choose and not one of the service providers has agreed to permanently terminate service."

The one thing to keep in mind from my none lawyer point of view is that this actually may negate the "Safe Harbor" provision of the DMCA for ISPs under this agreement, so ISPs that participate can become liable.

Sources:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-57...ght-by-july-1/

http://paidcontent.org/article/419-p...ight-challeng/

http://publicintelligence.net/center...understanding/

porno jew · 03-16-2012, 03:19 PM

what this have to do with porn?

GetSCORECash · 03-16-2012, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

what this have to do with porn?

1) The RIAA is going after consumers, instead of the infringing websites.
2) If they (RIAA) can do this why can't we?
3) They got help from the white house?

4)

GetSCORECash · 04-05-2012, 08:18 AM

This thread got ignored, but Marc John Randazza, Esq. from Randazza Legal Group recently posted the quoted text below on another board.

https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/...ction_KEY=8547

Quote:

The EFF is pushing to have people write to the ISPs to tell them not to implement the "six strikes" rule.

In other words, their position is that you make the content, you do the 2257 work, you do the worrying about payroll, model agreements, production, etc. Then, someone who steals your work should not be prosecuted, should not be sued, and NOW shouldn't even have their internet access threatened.

Here's their petition link:

https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/...ic/?action_KEY

Here's the good news -- you can change the text and write to the ISPs IN FAVOR of six strikes. Complain that they made this deal with the major studios, but they don't care about THIS industry. Or, if you work for one of the few theft-monger companies that come to the conferences, go ahead and write that you are against Six Strikes.

The point is, the EFF is going to use this drive to show massive protests against Six Strikes. As far as I'm concerned, if you use MY services to break the law ONCE, I'm going to fire you as a client. I don't see anything wrong with Time Warner (who makes movies too) saying "if we catch you stealing SIX TIMES, we just migh slow down your internet connection for a while."

If you care about your content, you may want to go to https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/...ic/?action_KEY and re-write the letter to state something like:

Subject:
Please Implement the six strikes to cut off the thief on your network

Your Letter:

As a Content Provider and Fiber Customer, I need to know my ISP is defending my freedom to create content. Using the "six strikes" graduated response to cut off users is a good step to stop the thief who profit from my content.

Please make a commitment today with a public statement that you will use the "six strikes" to cut off the thief on your network.

Sincerely,

Nautilus · 04-05-2012, 08:22 AM

Excellent tip, thanks for posting.

Tom_PM · 04-05-2012, 08:29 AM

So they're going to monitor which websites you download from I guess. Well, I listen to a lot of music from Youtube. In fact, almost exclusively. I also usually let the video cache completely, (I've "downloaded" it! omg) that way it plays more smoothly. How is that different from going to a site and initiating a download of an mp3 I wonder? It's literally the same process. Both are "requests" from a server.

Barefootsies · 04-05-2012, 08:29 AM

So.... the ISP's are now the private policemen of the RIAA?

Who is paying for the additonal policing (staff, legal, docs) expense exactly?

Nautilus · 04-05-2012, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

So they're going to monitor which websites you download from I guess. Well, I listen to a lot of music from Youtube. In fact, almost exclusively. I also usually let the video cache completely, (I've "downloaded" it! omg) that way it plays more smoothly. How is that different from going to a site and initiating a download of an mp3 I wonder? It's literally the same process. Both are "requests" from a server.

They're going to monitor public p2p networks only, aka torrents, not youtube. If a music or video is at YT, it is because copyright holder either want it there or doesn't care. Thanks for their DFP you're in complete control of what is posted at YT and how, I mean in control of your copyrighted works. You can leave it, remove, monetize, whatever.

Which is not true for torrents - scammers decide what is posted there and how, not the copyright owners. MPAA&RIAA are going to institute new monitoring body that will be checking hashes for torrents that are being "shared" on public networks and issue warnings to subscribers if those hashes match any of the copyrighted works in the database.

GetSCORECash · 04-05-2012, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

So.... the ISP's are now the private policemen of the RIAA?

Who is paying for the additonal policing (staff, legal, docs) expense exactly?

No!

The RIAA/MPAA will be doing the monitoring, they will send the offending IP address to the ISP that issued it, and then the ISP will issue warnings/penalties to the offending account owner.

My original post was to see how we the adult industry could somehow do the same as the RIAA/MPAA. I wanted to see if one of the trade groups in this industry could get involved...

Tom_PM · 04-05-2012, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus

They're going to monitor public p2p networks only, aka torrents, not youtube. If a music or video is at YT, it is because copyright holder either want it there or doesn't care. Thanks for their DFP you're in complete control of what is posted at YT and how, I mean in control of your copyrighted works. You can leave it, remove, monetize, whatever.

Which is not true for torrents - scammers decide what is posted there and how, not the copyright owners. MPAA&RIAA are going to institute new monitoring body that will be checking hashes for torrents that are being "shared" on public networks and issue warnings to subscribers if those hashes match any of the copyrighted works in the database.

Thanks, that makes sense.

DWB · 04-05-2012, 12:55 PM

Thanks. I had no idea about this.

halfpint · 04-05-2012, 01:00 PM

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DWB · 04-05-2012, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint

And in other news File Lockers and CCBILL ..ummm http://uploaded.to/ccbill

I've been looking for my content on there since you posted that in another thread. Google has not landed any results yet. But when it does, it's bombs away. CCbill will act when they are brought into the DMCA loop. They shut down the account if the site owner does not comply within the short window ccbill gives them.

But shame on CCbill for processing for them in the first place.

DWB · 04-05-2012, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint

And in other news File Lockers and CCBILL ..ummm http://uploaded.to/ccbill

Elli · 04-05-2012, 01:28 PM

Hasn't Shaw been doing this for years already? I could be mistaken.

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