Fuck OBAMA !!! : Help wanted: Automakers have trouble filling all the jobs

[directfiesta]

... he probably is keeping the potential workers locked up in the basement of the WH ... What this guy would do to sink the economy is endless... Vendzilla was right ..... fucking illegals will have to take those as well ....

Help wanted: Automakers have trouble filling all the jobs

The jobs were there, more than 1,000, according to the Engineering Society of Detroit, with everyone from the Detroit automakers to Korea?s Hyundai looking to hire. What was missing were the job-seekers.

March was another great month for the U.S. auto industry, which reported double-digit, year-over-year sales gains on Tuesday. After years of cutting back production ? closing dozens of plants and eliminating an estimated 88,000 jobs during the Great Recession ? automakers are racing to rebuild production capacity. They?re also looking to fill empty slots in design, engineering and other departments cut to the bone during the industry?s worst downturn in decades.

Detroit makers alone have created tens of thousands of jobs since hitting bottom in 2009 with the bankruptcy of Chrysler and General Motors. And their foreign-owned rivals are also putting out the ?Help Wanted? signs. Volkswagen is already planning a second round of hiring at its new assembly plant in Chattanooga, Tenn. BMW is expanding at its factory in South Carolina. Hyundai?s Alabama assembly line needs more help to meet booming demand.

And the search is especially frantic in suburban Detroit. Some of the new jobs are coming at places like Chrysler?s Jefferson North Assembly plant, along the Detroit River, which will soon be running three shifts building products like the Jeep Grand Cherokee. But the real rush is to find trained engineers.

Virtually every major automaker ? indeed, plenty of minor ones, including some not selling products in the U.S. ? has an engineering center in metro Detroit. With key government testing facilities and an entrenched knowledge base, everyone needs to be there, explains the Engineering Societys Della Cassia. She recalls when Chrysler, pre-bankruptcy, let go of 3,000 engineers and support staff, ?and our phones wouldn?t stop ringing with people looking for jobs. Many had families and were desperate.?

But at recent job fairs, like the one on March 31, employers were the ones lined up waiting.

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Damn bailout ....

[2intense]

i support Obama !!!

[Phoenix]

that doesnt sound right...no one wanted a job...perhaps no one knew

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

that doesnt sound right...no one wanted a job...perhaps no one knew

Well let me just rush out and get my engineering degree and move to downtown detroit.

[CyberHustler]

Isn't Detroit one of America's murder capitals...? I guess people would rather live.

[GetSCORECash]

Have you been to local school and looked at the kids who are in engineering? I'll tell you less then 10% are American and I'm being generous as the rest are foreign.

Also, have you looked at Industrial Designers they are mainly men, so nobody is designing cars for women.

Detroit still has a lot to learn and a lot of opportunities.

One more point for those that want to listen, California with http://www.artcenter.edu/accd/contact.jsp is gaining on Detroit when it comes to design. Look at Hyundai Kia America Technical Center, Inc. (HATCI) located at Irvine, California for some of the most innovative designs.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

Isn't Detroit one of America's murder capitals...? I guess people would rather live.

If you read the post, you will see other cities mentioned ....

[arock10]

Wait, so how is this Obamas fault? The car companies have recovered and are hiring... How is this bad?

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by arock10

Wait, so how is this Obamas fault? The car companies have recovered and are hiring... How is this bad?

sarcasm detector broken...

[GFED]

American made products suck anyways

[smutnut]

Where? in India or China?

[tony286]

The problem was we moved away from manufacturing for so long that's why there are alot less engineers here and alot more in the countries were manufacturing has been important. It comes back, you will see more.
I go to a diner and I was talking to the waiter an older guy. He was talking to me about all the places he had been for business. So I asked him what did you do? He said part mold engineering and that once that chinese did it for 5 percent of what it use to cost. There were no more jobs for him here so now he is waiter.

also in china and india college cost close to nothing so you arent sitting on a huge amount of debt out the door.

[Rochard]

I wonder exactly how much influence the President has on such issues. And with any president, they are quick to avoid blame and quick to claim responsibility when things go right.

Originally Posted by GFED

American made products suck anyways

You know, I keep hearing that and I'm just not seeing it. I've had 13 new Fords in the past twenty years and never had a problem with them. I mean, not once did I have to bring a car back after buying it because something broke or wasn't working right. I'm not saying that American cars are great, but I'm just not seeing the problem. Seems to me American cars are ranking higher in quality over the past ten years than other cars.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I wonder exactly how much influence the President has on such issues. And with any president, they are quick to avoid blame and quick to claim responsibility when things go right.

Well, on the auto industry sector, I do not think you can debate much this outcome following the gop critisized "bailout"

[GFED]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've had 13 new Fords in the past twenty years and never had a problem with them.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I wonder exactly how much influence the President has on such issues. And with any president, they are quick to avoid blame and quick to claim responsibility when things go right.



You know, I keep hearing that and I'm just not seeing it. I've had 13 new Fords in the past twenty years and never had a problem with them. I mean, not once did I have to bring a car back after buying it because something broke or wasn't working right. I'm not saying that American cars are great, but I'm just not seeing the problem. Seems to me American cars are ranking higher in quality over the past ten years than other cars.

once apon a time they did blow a long time ago during the late 70's early 80's and the Japanese came in and kicked our ass. I started with gm in 85 and had to sit thru a week of ass numbing quality classes.

ive had since 2001 two fords and a hhr. All the cars have been well made and gave no trouble. The sable had 130k on it when I traded it in, it was fine I was bored with it. I miss that car now lol.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I wonder exactly how much influence the President has on such issues. And with any president, they are quick to avoid blame and quick to claim responsibility when things go right.

The bailout helped Detroit a lot. But other than that, yeah, it's mostly about timing.

Originally Posted by Rochard

You know, I keep hearing that and I'm just not seeing it. I've had 13 new Fords in the past twenty years and never had a problem with them. I mean, not once did I have to bring a car back after buying it because something broke or wasn't working right. I'm not saying that American cars are great, but I'm just not seeing the problem. Seems to me American cars are ranking higher in quality over the past ten years than other cars.

American made cars really sucked in the 70's and 80's. Nevertheless, it took a long time for the American public to turn their backs on on the big three and start buying Japanese in large numbers.

Now that Detroit's products have actually been quite decent for awhile, it'll still take a long time to win back most of those lost customers.

People have long memories when it comes to this sort of thing.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Well, on the auto industry sector, I do not think you can debate much this outcome following the gop critisized "bailout"

This is not proof that the bailout worked. How come the companies that did not receive bailouts are hiring? This is proof that the recovery took much longer than it should of because of horrible policies of Bush and Obama.

The idea that the government can take money from the tax payers and give it to a company is horseshit and should not happen. Those companies that did not get bailed out got fucked. Their sales would be record sales and would actually be hiring even more people than they are now and the recovery would have been much faster.

On another note: World largest solar plant that was funded with 2.1 billion dollars of US tax payer money goes bankrupt. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/worlds...les-bankruptcy

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by GregE

The bailout helped Detroit a lot. But other than that, yeah, it's mostly about timing.




American made cars really sucked in the 70's and 80's. Nevertheless, it took a long time for the American public to turn their backs on on the big three and start buying Japanese in large numbers.

Now that Detroit's products have actually been quite decent for awhile, it'll still take a long time to win back most of those lost customers.

People have long memories when it comes to this sort of thing.

gotta compete with the wily japanese

[GregE]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

This is not proof that the bailout worked. How come the companies that did not receive bailouts are hiring? This is proof that the recovery took much longer than it should of because of horrible policies of Bush and Obama.

The auto bailout was actually quite effective because it was specifically targeted to an industry that wasn't quite dead (yet) and one that employs large numbers of American citizens.

The bulk of the bailout, meanwhile, were utterly wasted on the same big banks and Wall Street entities that deep-sixed the economy in the first place

We're talking apples and oranges here.

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

The idea that the government can take money from the tax payers and give it to a company is horseshit and should not happen.

Without the auto bailout, the big three would most likely have been purchased by the Chinese... or they'd have simply gone down altogether.

[kristin]

Originally Posted by GregE

Without the auto bailout, the big three would most likely have been purchased by the Chinese... or they'd have simply gone down.

Fiat's purchase of Chrysler pretty much saved them. I watched a segment on 60 Minutes about that whole thing and it was really impressive to see how they took the quality of the US cars and the business acumen of the Fiat company and made it work.

With the merger, Chrysler now has one of the most impressive line of cars.

I would support an auto industry bailout later if ever needed again based on how well they handled the money and paid it back. I wish I could say the same for the banks.

[Ron Bennett]

There are plenty of engineers and machinists, etc in the U.S. - if anything, there's a glut of them ...

The real problem is the pay is way too low. Wages for many occupations, such as machinist, assembly-line worker, etc have been slashed to around 1/2 of what they were just a decade or so ago...

Many employers requiring such workers, instead of paying a fair, living wage, claim there's a shortage to justify bringing in off-shore workers / getting government subsidies.

Ron

[Best-In-BC]

As useuall, the I hate Obama guys are clueless to the facts