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04-20-2012, 10:16 AM | #501 |
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Let this be known as the day that resistance to the tubes officially fell. We are in Day One of the New Era.
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xhamster - 1% banner ctr is about spot on. No real volume though at this early stage, 25k on one vid after 3 days, 11k on another. porntube - low volume, only 1 vid up for 24 hours (wrong fucking vid uploaded too lol) |
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1 sale btw, after ~30k views
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Hey Dirty F, sorry, I was on vacation till today. I may have misread your previous post, but no, we will not be displaying your custodian of records on our tube site.
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You say, this content is not hard to make, and I have written a guide on how to sell a membership to a user of a free tube below. It tells you exactly how Ruseful does it. So, you do really have everything at your disposal to do what Ruseful is doing with the sites, day in-day out. Yes, I personally own all of the sites I talk about. I created the production company to make use of my knowledge gained from running YouPorn. I am now at PornTube, building another huge tube, doing it all over again.
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We here at FameDollars are partners with Rocco Siffredi and we've been giving 10 minute clips to tube sites like PornTube, XHamster, PornTube and we've seen a steady stream of revenue from both type-ins and banner spots.
I remember when content providers only gave 15 second clips, which then became 2 minute gals and this now seems like the next natural step. |
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How about this: I will make better content. I will finance it myself. I will submit as much as you tell me in better quality than you did. Better everything. Not turning this in to a dick measuring contest, you have more money than me so you have the bigger dick just stating that I can do this no problem and that I understand exactly what is needed to produce at this level. You will not have to explain shit to me, I have the brains to understand what you did with your sites. Are you willing to guarantee me 50 sign ups per day in writing with contract in a very reasonable time period just from tubes? Whats in it for you? Every sale over 50/day goes to you for ever. You said you guys do 120/day easy so this is pure money no work for you. 50 sales/day is more than I need I will not bitch about anything ever if this works out. If I get under 50 sales/day and everything is as stated you have to buy my websites from me for production costs. What do you say? |
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It sounds like you will be producing content to compete with DaneJones, Passion-HD, X-Art, Met-Art etc. I can tell you, none of those sites are struggling, so if you can produce this type of content, my advice is DO IT!! For more inspiration, have a look at the new site coming online called www.Babes.com . I WILL be one of their first members when the site launches, their content looks OFF THE HOOK. If you launch a site like this, i'll buy a lifetime membership! Am I worried about a competitor to DaneJones if you produced better content, a better website? Sure, i'd feel the effects, of course. But I know my revenues, and my active member base that I have achieved solely from exposure to the tubes. But with 6 further sites in production, in various niches, that I am rolling out over the next 10-12 months, i'll not lose any sleep. As people have stated in this thread, the 10% than can produce exceptional content, whatever niche, make bank. It sounds like you are in this 10% already or most certainly should be. Cream rises to the top no matter what industry you are in. Its no different on the tubes. Better content and better edited clips get better ratings, more views. With more views comes more traffic to your own site. Then its down to your ability to convert those visitors into paying members. Feel free to email me jt at porntube dot com and I will give you any advice you care to ask for. For the record, I get 100-120 new sign ups a day on average this month from the tubes across the all sites my prod co has, not just 1 of the sites. I also get around 100-120 re bills a day right now This is clearly stated in my previous posts.
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In case you were interested in the effects of producing an 8min+ clip over a 5min clip, have a look at these 2 clips that made it onto YouPorn on the 3rd April 12. www.youporn.com/?page=112 They are the same clip, virtually same thumbnail and title. However, 1 BIG difference.
I circled them in RED. Brunette solo masturbation Length: 08:12, 208,402 views 87% rating www.youporn.com/watch/7631666 Darkhair solo masturbation on bed Length: 05:17, 82,211 views, 82% rating www.youporn.com/watch/7686282 FYI, I also circled my videos for that day too, in YELLOW. (Just under 1.2m views $$$)
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The problem is simple. Too many sites and sponsors ignored the consumer and forgot common sense. If a niche/style/porn quality is available on 10 sites. They should do a lot better than the same niche/style/porn quality that's on 100 sites. Your only problem is finding the guys or their peers who shot Orgasm.xxx and paying for it. In fact the finding is the easy part. Looking at Orgasm.xxx I would say this is well in the realms of $3,000 and upwards a scene, excluding solo girl. Cameras, lights, props, locations, staff, editing, models, etc. It has a horrible habit of mounting up. Then launching a site with 50 videos will be a big investment. The people behind this had the money to do so and now have something that converts off tubes. Incidentally it takes more than money to do these scenes. you need first to find the people to create it. Changing Times. |
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Cameras/lenses/pro lights I have at least 6 figures worth of each at my disposal for pennies. I live next to something called "Movie City" its state run film studios basically, I am super connected there now and the talented guys are struggling to make ends meet. Money is no problem either, 3rd world countries can be mighty good places to take money from the bank for your LLC |
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Or actors who don't give a fuck when they fuck for your money. Good luck, come back and show us how it got on. I wish you well. |
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Yes agree 100%. There is dozens of them who are starving. One of them will know how to shoot. Budgets are no problem. The wealthiest man is often not the one with the most money but the one who needs to spend the least. 3000$/shot for something like babes.com clips is an absurd amount of money. I do not agree with you that mainstream actors are not complete idiots |
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OK others will dispute the split, still the skill required to shoot porn models and get them right isn't something a guy from mainstream will be able to do. Also you have the element of the effect seeing all the naked flesh in front of him. some will get turn on or off enough to interfere with their work. Are you just shooting clips or shooting full scenes? |
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Well, it has been a month so has posting custom tailored content to the tubes brought anyone significant traceable sales? |
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So nearly a year later here we are. Besides Ruseful (who makes over $1 for every 1,000 video views on a tube) how many new millionaires or billionaires do we have here?
Fabian, can Manwin now pay their taxes and debt to Playboy? Show us your new mansions paysite owners.
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Bump. So again what new millionaires do we have here on GFY? Who got rich promoting their pay sites on the tubes? Jel?
Btw I guess Ruseful was either an employee, owner, partner, or on contract (which one is true depends on which message you believe. I have no idea) with porntube.com the entire time when he first posted his stats here and pushed their CPP. Here's proof: https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19683588&postcount=168
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up to sept 2006, dog breeder Sept 2006 - May 2011 YouPorn Jan 2011 Started Really Useful Production Company June 2011 - Dec 2011 ICM registry (6 month contract) Sept 2011 Launched first site Casting.xxx Jan 2012 - May 2013 Partner with PornTube to build Content Partnership Program and Business Management, Succeeded and partnership dissolved. May 2013 launched 11th site. As I wrote in my guide to making money on the tubes, and as I say in the many individual workshops and the many panels I sit on at industry events, you wont make money by uploading to just 1 tube. 90% of my revenues are generated from the tubes. All I ever do is tell people how I do what I am doing. I have grown from 4 employees in Jan 2011 to over 60. I have over 20,000 active members on my sites and are launching another 7 sites in the next few months. This is from doing exactly what I tell people on how to monetize the tubes. What does it matter if I was partnered with PornTube? why does it matter if I was a partner/employee? What difference does it make to you? I really dont see why you have a witch hunt against me. |
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I'm currently working on 2 new paysites (well, one, with the money I get from that being used to get the 2nd up and running - more outlay required but it's gonna be fucking H U G E, believe me), if the 1st one makes any cash, which I fully expect it to) using data from the tubes, as suggested by Ruseful previously. As much as I hate what the tubes have done, the whole theft aspect of it, the bullshit 'user uploads' that has to be spun out (I mean really, what else does anyone expect them to say? They certainly can't admit it - I see it like telling your lawyer "I didn't do it". They know you fucking did, but who in their right mind is going to come out and admit it, especially given how lucrative it is), the expectation from surfers it has bred where 90% of people will NEVER pay for porn again, google giving a criminal operation credence because 'now we don't steal, we are awesome yo', and so on that has already been done to death here and elsewhere... the fact is, tubes have the traffic, and by whatever law of whatever, means they also have the paying traffic. And I want paying traffic. I may not like it, and indeed I still have a rant now about it every so often, but for me, these are the facts: tubes own the vast majority of paying adult traffic I want paying traffic If I don't adapt, I die So, I've been quietly learning, using rusefuls advice; doing other stuff in the meantime to stay afloat, and waiting for my opportunity(ies), which are now nearing the building/marketing stage. I'm actually far more optimistic now than I was 12 months ago. I'll never be a tube fanboy, but I'm way past being a hater and wasting my focus/energy/attention on shit I can't change. Change the things you can |
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Hit me up if you ever want to discuss paysites and tubes. The thing about JT/Ruseful which gets under people's skin is his BRAGGING about how well he's doing, using his oh-so-innovative strategy of "give the tubes everything they want". The real problem for me? I have a VERY VERY VERY hard time believing that ALL the growth Ruseful brags about - going from 11 to 60 employees, 20,000 Members, etc - that ALL THAT came from posting longer videos on tube sites. IF this were true then wouldn't Met-Art, X-Art, and the great Peabody's own ErosExotica being doing THOUSANDS of joins? Makes no sense because I believe - it's just my BELIEF now, no proof - my BELIEF that Ruseful's success has a lot more to do with special deals with friends/tubes then merely posting videos. JT: What is your Revshare with these tubes? 50-50? Do you do PPS? If so, how much? Do you buy joins? Do you advertise on the tubes? If so, how much per month? Do you make more profit from advertising than from postings? This kind of shit. When something doesn't add up....well, draw your own conclusions. Congrats to the Winners.
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Revshare with the tubes: 50/50, they are normal affiliates I dont do PPS I do not buy joins I do not advertise on tubes or anywhere else I do not do 1 day trials I do not get any favors from the tubes, why would they help my sites when most of the largest tubes own their own pay sites? http://www.youporn.com/channels/most_popular/alltime/ This speaks for itself, this is why I have grown from 4 employees to over 60. My sites are some of the most popular on the internet bar none. Hope this helps you understand, but very much doubt it. |
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You could communicate with me directly, I have reached out to you to take you up on your GFY offer of helping a program with their tube strategy yet all I get is crickets in return, another reason I have trouble believing you. IF the above is true, that you do all this business with tube submissions alone, then WHY (please explain) do other similar sites as yours do 1/10th as well, especially since many of those sites (mine included) have been on the Web longer and have been posting videos to tubes longer. Hmmm? If your answer is going to be: People don't like your sites/like mine better I will personally call you a liar. MY numbers show MY sites are INCREDIBLY popular and do MASSIVE signups - when I get the traffic. So the REAL question here is: why do your videos get more views? Could it be because - SOMEhow - your videos stay on the Homepages longer? Hmmm? I wonder why this is....can't be because of longer videos, MY longer videos do not stay on the Homepage as long, nor do any other "Met-Art'-style sites, so again hmmm....no JT. Something else is going on, you're not getting all this love from tubes/tube surfers "organicly". LOL Good for you but please don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining, ok? I'm not an idiot, and you of all people - who looked at some of MY websites data during your years at YouPorn and based a lot of this magical "tube strategy" bullshit on MY websites data - should know that. Wanna talk on ICQ now or continue to ignore me off-GFY? Really man, give me a fucking break.
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If he is using longer videos that means he keeps 100% of the income. That is the tube's incentive so the uploaders load longer clips.
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Is ANYONE using Ruseful's strategy seeing HIS kind of results? No, of course not. Maybe I should start a thread to get JT's attention. (PS - not all tubes have this 'keep all the revenue if you upload longer vids' policy.)
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I use mass tube uploaders to fill tubes with very decent material that I produce myself...basically I have tried long clips, short clips, hard core clips, soft core clips, pro camera clips with depth of field shit and pro lights and everything to shitty Iphone clips and what not...one can not accuse me of being superficial or lazy about my work with tube uploads...for the main tubes I submitted by hand, I did not want to leave anything to chance...have tried promoting my own and other programs with my own and their own material...nothing was left untested...
my conclusion: tube surfers are freeloaders and even though I get lots of hits there is simply not enough conversion and I see a clear difference between tubes and other methods of promoting conversion wise...traffic wise I can really generate a shit ton of beggar views from tubes no problem... |
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I already responded to you in one of the other threads here: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1063910&page=11 It's not a witchhunt. In fact you were being a bit deceitful. It was not obvious that you were both Ruseful and ThePornTubeGuy because as pointed out in the link above you were speaking about your alternate identity (your sockpuppet) in the third person as if it were someone else. Here is an example of that: Quote:
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I've been working on some more unique projects myself and trying to get away from what everyone else is doing. It's a struggle though because overall no matter what you are doing it seems in adult each visitor on average is worth far less than they used to be. It means tighter margins. I wish us both luck.
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What bothered me about him/porntube the most was the bad vibes. I've learned to listen to that. From the first post of his that I read I got the sense that more was going on than I was seeing and I was definitely right about that. I felt really guilty at first about how I felt about the guy because it seemed like I disliked him right from the start without knowing why (beyond his association with that tube) but now I see why. He deceives and he plays games with people. To what extent we have no idea. Trust is so important. It's not personal but I feel it's a mistake to trust someone like that.
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I know, I know - "Ruseful" is really short for "Really Useful" and OF COURSE double entendres do not exist in this world. LOL Is JT an American-born citizen? just curious.
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At minimum it was dishonest. It would be like if I created a sockpuppet "MisterBigShotDude" and said "Yeah, that signupdamnit guy sends me 300 joins a day. He's a great businessman and a whale!" using that sockpuppet. It's not cool at all.
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BTW: Unlike Ruseful, I do make deals with affiliates concerning Revshare from time to time. I would gladly do so in this case because, honestly Signupdamnit, I like your business savvy. If past the point of pushing paysites it's cool but let's talk anyway.
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06-24-2013, 01:06 PM | #549 | |
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Anyway I'm not going to kick him when he is down. I've said what I needed and how I feel about it. If it's a mental illness or something then I'll apologize and give him the benefit of the doubt again as I said.
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06-24-2013, 01:57 PM | #550 | |
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I hold my hands up to using 2 names on GFY but it was not meant to use it maliciously, really, and I apologise that this has caused so much tension on the boards. I realised it was causing a lot of confusion, not only for the readers but also for myself. Hence only doing 40 odd posts from The PornTube Guy and then continuing with Ruseful. In fact, The PornTube Guy was my old The YouPorn Guy account, which I never really used, hence the 40 posts. I can understand why everyone is getting into a twist and starting to not trust a word I am saying or indeed have said, but really, it was not anything malicious, just simply having a profile for each of my roles, both PornTube and Really Useful. They were and are separate entities and with the anti tube feeling, it didnt seem logical to me to be representing PornTube from my Ruseful account and vice versa. As for a 3rd persona, no, I dont have one. Coolness who you refer too is Steve, who is the owner of PornTube/4Tube and Fux.com. I enjoyed my time working with him, he has a great team. I achieved what I was brought on to do and as I pointed out on various threads, Really Useful started to Really Grow - quickly. So, I now understand why the numerous threads and comments about me, and why all the questions. I brought this on myself and I dont blame you or anyone for what I considered a witch hunt on me. So, I sincerely apologise to you and the members of GFY and I can leave the boards quietly if you think I have caused too much damage to my reputation with my previous actions, or I can hang around and contribute, but only as Ruseful (I will be responding to MrPeabody first though). |
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