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Old 05-05-2012, 10:03 AM   #1
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Stephen King rips fat jerkoff Chris Christie and the Republican party

Read this the other day and I thought it was funny and he makes some very valid points:

Stephen King: Tax Me, for F@%&?s Sake!


Chris Christie may be fat, but he ain?t Santa Claus. In fact, he seems unable to decide if he is New Jersey?s governor or its caporegime, and it may be a comment on the coarsening of American discourse that his brash rudeness is often taken for charm. In February, while discussing New Jersey?s newly amended income-tax law, which allows the rich to pay less (proportionally) than the middle class, Christie was asked about Warren Buffett?s observation that he paid less federal income taxes than his personal secretary, and that wasn?t fair. ?He should just write a check and shut up,? Christie responded, with his typical verve. ?I?m tired of hearing about it. If he wants to give the government more money, he?s got the ability to write a check?go ahead and write it.?

Heard it all before. At a rally in Florida (to support collective bargaining and to express the socialist view that firing teachers with experience was sort of a bad idea), I pointed out that I was paying taxes of roughly 28 percent on my income. My question was, ?How come I?m not paying 50?? The governor of New Jersey did not respond to this radical idea, possibly being too busy at the all-you-can-eat cheese buffet at Applebee?s in Jersey City, but plenty of other people of the Christie persuasion did.

Cut a check and shut up, they said.

If you want to pay more, pay more, they said.

Tired of hearing about it, they said.

Tough shit for you guys, because I?m not tired of talking about it. I?ve known rich people, and why not, since I?m one of them? The majority would rather douse their dicks with lighter fluid, strike a match, and dance around singing ?Disco Inferno? than pay one more cent in taxes to Uncle Sugar. It?s true that some rich folks put at least some of their tax savings into charitable contributions. My wife and I give away roughly $4 million a year to libraries, local fire departments that need updated lifesaving equipment (Jaws of Life tools are always a popular request), schools, and a scattering of organizations that underwrite the arts. Warren Buffett does the same; so does Bill Gates; so does Steven Spielberg; so do the Koch brothers; so did the late Steve Jobs. All fine as far as it goes, but it doesn?t go far enough.

What charitable 1 percenters can?t do is assume responsibility?America?s national responsibilities: the care of its sick and its poor, the education of its young, the repair of its failing infrastructure, the repayment of its staggering war debts. Charity from the rich can?t fix global warming or lower the price of gasoline by one single red penny. That kind of salvation does not come from Mark Zuckerberg or Steve Ballmer saying, ?OK, I?ll write a $2 million bonus check to the IRS.? That annoying responsibility stuff comes from three words that are anathema to the Tea Partiers: United American citizenry.

And hey, why don?t we get real about this? Most rich folks paying 28 percent taxes do not give out another 28 percent of their income to charity. Most rich folks like to keep their dough. They don?t strip their bank accounts and investment portfolios. They keep them and then pass them on to their children, their children?s children. And what they do give away is?like the monies my wife and I donate?totally at their own discretion. That?s the rich-guy philosophy in a nutshell: don?t tell us how to use our money; we?ll tell you.

The Koch brothers are right-wing creepazoids, but they?re giving right-wing creepazoids. Here?s an example: 68 million fine American dollars to Deerfield Academy. Which is great for Deerfield Academy. But it won?t do squat for cleaning up the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, where food fish are now showing up with black lesions. It won?t pay for stronger regulations to keep BP (or some other bunch of dipshit oil drillers) from doing it again. It won?t repair the levees surrounding New Orleans. It won?t improve education in Mississippi or Alabama. But what the hell?them li?l crackers ain?t never going to go to Deerfield Academy anyway. Fuck ?em if they can?t take a joke.

Here?s another crock of fresh bullshit delivered by the right wing of the Republican Party (which has become, so far as I can see, the only wing of the Republican Party): the richer rich people get, the more jobs they create. Really? I have a total payroll of about 60 people, most of them working for the two radio stations I own in Bangor, Maine. If I hit the movie jackpot?as I have, from time to time?and own a piece of a film that grosses $200 million, what am I going to do with it? Buy another radio station? I don?t think so, since I?m losing my shirt on the ones I own already. But suppose I did, and hired on an additional dozen folks. Good for them. Whoopee-ding for the rest of the economy.

At the risk of repeating myself, here?s what rich folks do when they get richer: they invest. A lot of those investments are overseas, thanks to the anti-American business policies of the last four administrations. Don?t think so? Check the tag on that T-shirt or gimme cap you?re wearing. If it says MADE IN AMERICA, I?ll ? well, I won?t say I?ll eat your shorts, because some of that stuff is made here, but not much of it. And what does get made here doesn?t get made by America?s small cadre of pluted bloatocrats; it?s made, for the most part, in barely-gittin?-by factories in the Deep South, where the only unions people believe in are those solemnized at the altar of the local church (as long as they?re from different sexes, that is).

The U.S. senators and representatives who refuse even to consider raising taxes on the rich?they squall like scalded babies (usually on Fox News) every time the subject comes up?are not, by and large, superrich themselves, although many are millionaires and all have had the equivalent of Obamacare for years. They simply idolize the rich. Don?t ask me why; I don?t get it either, since most rich people are as boring as old, dead dog shit. The Mitch McConnells and John Boehners and Eric Cantors just can?t seem to help themselves. These guys and their right-wing supporters regard deep pockets like Christy Walton and Sheldon Adelson the way little girls regard Justin Bieber ? which is to say, with wide eyes, slack jaws, and the drool of adoration dripping from their chins. I?ve gotten the same reaction myself, even though I?m only ?baby rich? compared with some of these guys, who float serenely over the lives of the struggling middle class like blimps made of thousand-dollar bills.

In America, the rich are hallowed. Even Warren Buffett, who has largely been drummed out of the club for his radical ideas about putting his money where his mouth is when it comes to patriotism, made the front pages when he announced that he had stage-1 prostate cancer. Stage 1, for God?s sake! A hundred clinics can fix him up, and he can put the bill on his American Express black card! But the press made it sound like the pope?s balls had just dropped off and shattered! Because it was cancer? No! Because it was Warren Buffett, he of Berkshire-Hathaway!

I guess some of this mad right-wing love comes from the idea that in America, anyone can become a Rich Guy if he just works hard and saves his pennies. Mitt Romney has said, in effect, ?I?m rich and I don?t apologize for it.? Nobody wants you to, Mitt. What some of us want?those who aren?t blinded by a lot of bullshit persiflage thrown up to mask the idea that rich folks want to keep their damn money?is for you to acknowledge that you couldn?t have made it in America without America. That you were fortunate enough to be born in a country where upward mobility is possible (a subject upon which Barack Obama can speak with the authority of experience), but where the channels making such upward mobility possible are being increasingly clogged. That it?s not fair to ask the middle class to assume a disproportionate amount of the tax burden. Not fair? It?s un-fucking-American is what it is. I don?t want you to apologize for being rich; I want you to acknowledge that in America, we all should have to pay our fair share. That our civics classes never taught us that being American means that?sorry, kiddies?you?re on your own. That those who have received much must be obligated to pay?not to give, not to ?cut a check and shut up,? in Governor Christie?s words, but to pay?in the same proportion. That?s called stepping up and not whining about it. That?s called patriotism, a word the Tea Partiers love to throw around as long as it doesn?t cost their beloved rich folks any money.

This has to happen if America is to remain strong and true to its ideals. It?s a practical necessity and a moral imperative. Last year during the Occupy movement, the conservatives who oppose tax equality saw the first real ripples of discontent. Their response was either Marie Antoinette (?Let them eat cake?) or Ebenezer Scrooge (?Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses??). Short-sighted, gentlemen. Very short-sighted. If this situation isn?t fairly addressed, last year?s protests will just be the beginning. Scrooge changed his tune after the ghosts visited him. Marie Antoinette, on the other hand, lost her head.

Think about it.

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Tired of hearing about it, they said.

Tough shit for you guys, because I?m not tired of talking about it.
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This idea that if a rich person says he ought to be compelled to pay more taxes then he's some kind of injustice-exposing whistleblower and said policy is surely the right one is a frighteningly stupid one espoused by frighteningly stupid people. I bet I could find 5 women on GFY who would happily admit that women are too emotional and trite to be allowed to vote. (Seriously, I promise you some of them believe this.) I don't see the state supremacists pushing that agenda though.

Also, what's stopping all these rich people from donating more money to the government? Answer: nothing.
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I dont think it was anti business policies that made them invest overseas. I think it was laws relaxing goods had to be made here, import tariffs that are very light. Also wall st wanting bigger and bigger profits every quarter and bigger and bigger ceo pay packages. The only way to do that it is go where there are no regs and the people are pretty much slave labor. I watched a doc on the garment industry in NYC at one time over 250k people were employed in that area in nyc.They kept relaxing the trade laws. less and less goods were made here til there are almost none.
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I'm sick of hearing about it, that's for sure. Why would you want to pay 50% of your income to the government? Giving the government more money just feeds the beast, it makes it easier for them too justify asking for even more the following year, as they broaden the reach of welfare programs and ease the requirements for SS Disability.

Charity isn't charity when its mandatory, its redistribution of wealth. Why is it so difficult for people to understand the difference between giving and being taken from? There are enough tax incentives for people to give, and it's not Stephen's job to decide what causes are worthwhile and which ones aren't. Pompous ass.
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Having a lot of goods made overseas just makes good sense. They can do those grunt labor jobs while we do the high technology and the thinking. The tax structure in the USA is simply not fair. They need to eliminate the loopholes and then pass those savings onto the middle class. Tax the rich more but reduce the burden on the middle class at the same time. DO NOT give more money overall to the government. They are a bunch of fuckups that waste our cash.
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tax equality? the more you make the more you should be taxed?

How about a dollar is a dollar? Tax a dollar equally and that would be tax equality.

Taking more than equal is merely legalized theft and nothing more. Just because you get a lot of people to agree to it doesn't change that fact.

I'm fine with restricting trade laws so that the richie's can't monetize slave labor and cheap labor in china, india, etc; but don't beat up those of us that are trying to succeed but happen to be in a tax bracket that is penalizing us for succeeding.

Taxation above equal is theft; end of story.
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That's only because he got older, stopped doing coke and caffiene, and slowed right the fuck down down. He might not be "hip" now, but he's still a better writer (and observer of the human condition) than anyone else alive. Except maybe Clive Barker and Peter Straub - but they're lying low, too. Can't blame them, though...

(Read the entire Harry Potter series of books. All one billion useless pages of it. Then read Clive Barker's "In The Hills, The Cities." Twenty-seven pages from The Books of Blood, Vol. 1. Clive Barker put more imagination, emotion, and personal experience into those 27 pages than J(oke) K(ing) Rollins put into Harry Potter. Glad she's a billionaire. She can't write for shit, but she's real good at whoring herself out for children. Adult novels for children. What a concept!

If you're up for some real "modern" British fantasy literature, take a stab at Weaveworld.

Stephen King's "On Writing" was a change of life experience. I worship every word that drips out of the end of that man's penis, err, I meant PEN!!! Whether its relevant to my life or not - whether his movies have been brilliant (they haven't) - Stephen King is the single greatest American writer since Mark Twain. 90% crap, 10% timeless brilliance.

Actually READ Stand By Me, or Mrs. Todd's Shortcut (Just pure, simple beauty. A dream come to life. This story almost made me want to become an American citizen. Seriously - I wanted to pack up and move to Maine. I wanted to LIVE in one of the places that Mr. King was writing about.) Go back and read The Shining or Salem's Lot in a darkened room. Turn on the lights and read The Gunslinger series. Read his collaborations with Peter Straub.

I think he's done, though. I think Stephen King has quit.

I'm nuts? You read all this? You're fucking crazy.

Read Clive Barker's Books of Blood

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Stephen King is cool as hell...
BUT, he starts off calling Christie "fat" and then accuses Christie of being "rude"
Uh...that's kinda hypocritical and typical of all people who attempt to judge others.
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I guess some of this mad right-wing love comes from the idea that in America, anyone can become a Rich Guy if he just works hard and saves his pennies. Mitt Romney has said, in effect, ?I?m rich and I don?t apologize for it.? Nobody wants you to, Mitt. What some of us want?those who aren?t blinded by a lot of bullshit persiflage thrown up to mask the idea that rich folks want to keep their damn money?is for you to acknowledge that you couldn?t have made it in America without America.
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Having a lot of goods made overseas just makes good sense. They can do those grunt labor jobs while we do the high technology and the thinking.
That line of reasoning is exactly why we are in this predicament in the first place. We are a nation of over 300 million, not everyone can become aerospace engineers and derivatives traders. Besides, a lot of the industries defined by "thinking" are built around intangibles; there is nothing being created to back the supposed wealth, it's just numbers being shifted around that creates these giant bubbles that eventually burst every couple of decades.


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tax equality? the more you make the more you should be taxed?

How about a dollar is a dollar? Tax a dollar equally and that would be tax equality.

Taking more than equal is merely legalized theft and nothing more. Just because you get a lot of people to agree to it doesn't change that fact.

I'm fine with restricting trade laws so that the richie's can't monetize slave labor and cheap labor in china, india, etc; but don't beat up those of us that are trying to succeed but happen to be in a tax bracket that is penalizing us for succeeding.

Taxation above equal is theft; end of story.
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I think he's done, though. I think Stephen King has quit.
I have a suspicion that his son, Joe Hill, has ghostwritten large chunks, if not whole novels for him in recent years. I read an interview the other day about a collaboration he was working on with his son where he said that his son could finish the book because their writing styles were nearly indistinguishable, but his writing style has changed since the 80's when he put out his best works, imo.


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Stephen King is cool as hell...
BUT, he starts off calling Christie "fat" and then accuses Christie of being "rude"
Uh...that's kinda hypocritical and typical of all people who attempt to judge others.
Christie deserves it. The guy is an arrogant prick who treats his own constituents - the people he's supposed to be working for - like a bunch of assholes. Like the lady he went on a tirade against because she asked him where he sends his kids to school, telling her it's none of her business. Well, it kind of is considering her tax dollars pay his fucking salary so he can - SURPRISE! - send his kids to a private school while he slashes funding for public ones. I hope he chokes to death on a steak - fat piece of shit.

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Ah yes.. shooting the messenger is ever popular.

Also, there is nothing he said that equates to "the more you make the more you should pay". Typical red herrings always come out to entice the reader into the traps. It's boring.
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Well, i'm sure Stephen King being uber wealthy and all for most of his adult life, knows all about the plight of the common man. Of course, I don't expect him to give up any of that wealth beyond common sense tax deductions just as Bono doesn't, Sean Penn doesn't, Michael Moore doesn't or any other super rich dickhead that parades around talking about the common man while their 3 servants pick lobster out of their facial hair as 3 19 year old Asian girls massage their balls and one of the 6 nannies are raising their kids.
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Stephen King can be found on any given day at one of his many multi million dollar mansions pondering the plight of the common man and how to remedy all of the socio-economic issues and general economic inequality/disparities we struggle with day to day as a society.

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Old 05-07-2012, 11:20 AM   #26
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Well, i'm sure Stephen King being uber wealthy and all for most of his adult life, knows all about the plight of the common man. Of course, I don't expect him to give up any of that wealth beyond common sense tax deductions just as Bono doesn't, Sean Penn doesn't, Michael Moore doesn't or any other super rich dickhead
He wrote Carrie and most of his early short stories in the laundry room of a trailer he lived in and on breaks while he was working at an industrial laundry, while his wife supplemented their income with a job at Dunkin Donuts. He was raised by a single mother on welfare. He lives in a middle-class neighborhood in Maine. He donates millions of dollars a year to charities around his community. Yeah, he's got a mansion in Florida, the guy's worth 400 million.
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He wrote Carrie and most of his early short stories in the laundry room of a trailer he lived in and on breaks while he was working at an industrial laundry, while his wife supplemented their income with a job at Dunkin Donuts. He was raised by a single mother on welfare. He lives in a middle-class neighborhood in Maine. He donates millions of dollars a year to charities around his community. Yeah, he's got a mansion in Florida, the guy's worth 400 million.
Wealthy people donate to charities because there are tax incentives to do so. Not because they are better human beings than those who don't.



I personally don't care what the guy does. His criticism is regarding what everyone else does and thats what i take offense to. I just get tired of hearing super wealthy people talk about "Fair" as if their own perspective on life as it pertains to day to day people of middle income families isn't severely skewed. I don't appreciate it from Michael Moore. I don't appreciate it from Arnold Schwartzenegger or anyone else no matter what their politics are. This also goes for the idiot career politicians who have always been wealthy or were born into wealth.

You never see any of these people giving away their wealth and living in a 1200 sq foot house in the outskirts of Dubuque.. they want to keep their wealth as they tell everyone what others should do with theirs.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:13 PM   #28
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Yes, Stephen King is a psychopath because he writes scary stories. Yep. Sound logic there indeed.
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Wealthy people donate to charities because there are tax incentives to do so. Not because they are better human beings than those who don't.



I personally don't care what the guy does. His criticism is regarding what everyone else does and thats what i take offense to. I just get tired of hearing super wealthy people talk about "Fair" as if their own perspective on life as it pertains to day to day people of middle income families isn't severely skewed. I don't appreciate it from Michael Moore. I don't appreciate it from Arnold Schwartzenegger or anyone else no matter what their politics are. This also goes for the idiot career politicians who have always been wealthy or were born into wealth.

You never see any of these people giving away their wealth and living in a 1200 sq foot house in the outskirts of Dubuque.. they want to keep their wealth as they tell everyone what others should do with theirs.
why would they? that's not what he's even suggesting, how do you end up sliding down a slope like that?
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why would they? that's not what he's even suggesting, how do you end up sliding down a slope like that?
It's all the same old rhetoric that rich people are greedy, don't create jobs and don't pay their fair share... in an openly, proudly biased rant, by someone with a very limited understanding of economics coupled with a very narrow and one sided view of how an economy works.
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I dont think it was anti business policies that made them invest overseas. I think it was laws relaxing goods had to be made here, import tariffs that are very light. Also wall st wanting bigger and bigger profits every quarter and bigger and bigger ceo pay packages. The only way to do that it is go where there are no regs and the people are pretty much slave labor. I watched a doc on the garment industry in NYC at one time over 250k people were employed in that area in nyc.They kept relaxing the trade laws. less and less goods were made here til there are almost none.
To create a factory in California I have to do a several year study on the land it will sit on costing me tens of millions. Then to make that factory I have to spend 100's of millions on labor alone. I haven't even retrofitted it yet. Then to make the product I must pay 100's of millions in pay, retirement benefits and medical benefits. Every year!

To make the same factory in Asia I have to graft somebody $5 million. That guy is now a millionaire. Yippee! Then I pay slave labor rates to have the thing built for $15 million. Then I retrofit it with counterfeit machinery for pennies on the dollar. Then, to make the products I pay $15 million a year with no retirement or medical to worry about.

Total savings minus the $100 million I have to pay in import duties? $0 dollars!
Total savings not having to pay taxes to the USA? $400 million...

And now you know why the iPod, iPhone and iPad are not made in the USA.
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Wealthy people donate to charities because there are tax incentives to do so. Not because they are better human beings than those who don't.
Wrong... They do it because doing so is cool. Go to any college and you will see a hall, wing or quad named after somebody. How cool is that? All these kids sleeping in your hall. It is like Harry Potter and your last name is Gryffindor, or, Slytherin.
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