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MetaMan 05-12-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 18943168)
I've seen you on GFY before. Now you're back? Who are you? I see you've got 26k posts. Posts of what? Are you a surfer or one of those rich webmasters that I read about all the time? Well, I guess we need guys like you to fill space. When is your 13th birthday?

It is funny how you address 0 of my points and go off with 0 to do with the topic. Deep down you know I am right or else you would have at least some form of response.

What makes you think I give a fuck about you that I would actually explain myself? You're a nobody loser. Play that in your head 5 times "I ruff am a nobody loser and MetaMan does not care about me".

Get the point? Loser.

bushwacker 05-12-2012 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18943308)

Play that in your head 5 times "I ruff am a nobody loser and MetaMan does not care about me".

Get the point? Loser.


Classic. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 05-12-2012 10:17 AM

I don't know, but I know a few American Israelis who seem rather unhappy about events in the Middle East.

Is that helpful? :D

PS: I'll take Ruff over MetaMan any day of the fucking week. I've made money with Ruff. LOL

sperbonzo 05-12-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18942824)

I remember reading somewhere it only took 5 German soldiers to guard 500 Jews and when asked why the Jews didn't overpower the guards? The guard replied, most Jews were too selfish to sacrifice themselves for the greater good even when they knew they were probably going to die.

This is why I firmly believe Israel will be the reason why we Americans will have some serious troubles in our near future and why we need to tough love them with a firm no like a spoiled child and remind them, there wouldn't be an Israel if it wasn't for us Americans.

"This is why I firmly believe..."?

So the views of a Nazi guard, that believed that Jews were vermin that should all be exterminated, is the basis for your insight into Jewish culture? Really? Should I start quoting a rifleman from Custer's 7th Cavalry on his views of Indian culture as an authoritative source?

Please think about what you wrote here. Does that really make any sense?

If you are at all interested into the actual reasons why the Jews went "like lambs to the slaughter", it is because they were taught, all through history, that any terrible thing happening to them was God's wrath being carried out against them in retaliation for the Jews breaking their covenant with God in some way. They thought that they should not fight it because God was picking them out for special punishment.

Reaction to this view was the basis of Zionism, which is a determination that: 1, The Jews should have a homeland of their own where no government can do this to them, and 2, that they should never go meekly like this ever again.


(p.s. the reason why Jews were so involved in the bolshevik revolution (and I'm the furthest from the evils of communism as you can get), was that they were fighting the anti-jewish Pogroms being carried out under the Tzars.


I really can't see how you would think that a German guard is somehow a source of information about Jews.... What kind of stuff are you reading where this makes sense?



wow...



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DWB 05-12-2012 10:35 AM

No disrespect to my Jewish friends, but I don't give a fuck what happens to Israel.

VS_Jeff 05-12-2012 10:40 AM

Why is Israel, a state that is pro-democracy, pro-gay rights, pro-gender equality, and pro-free enterprise, the most controversial country in the world?? Look at the human right violations in North Korea, Iran, Sunan, Uganda, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, and China... why is Israel such an issue???

dons4512 05-12-2012 10:43 AM

They just cant choose...


www.wildmagnum.com

MetaMan 05-12-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VS_Jeff (Post 18943391)
Why is Israel, a state that is pro-democracy, pro-gay rights, pro-gender equality, and pro-free enterprise, the most controversial country in the world?? Look at the human right violations in North Korea, Iran, Sunan, Uganda, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, and China... why is Israel such an issue???

"I only beat the guy up officer, let me off! there is plenty of people who have stabbed someone."

This way of thinking will not pass sorry.

moeloubani 05-12-2012 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VS_Jeff (Post 18943391)
Why is Israel, a state that is pro-democracy, pro-gay rights, pro-gender equality, and pro-free enterprise, the most controversial country in the world?? Look at the human right violations in North Korea, Iran, Sunan, Uganda, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, and China... why is Israel such an issue???

All those countries except maybe Saudi Arabia are under sanctions.

But for Americans I think it is the fact that when someone else calls on Israel for doing something wrong it is always the US that comes to their aid with a veto at the UN.

The US has used the veto more than any other country and most of the time they do it they do it for Israel.

Cherry7 05-12-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 18943302)
Jewish propoganda, as exemplified by the video above, is lying on an industrial scale. It's an affront to all peoples who seek truth and who value truth.

The lack of respect they have for Gentiles is staggering.

It is not "Jewish " it is the Israeli state, some of the leading opponents of Israel's actions are Jews

ruff 05-12-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18943308)
It is funny how you address 0 of my points and go off with 0 to do with the topic. Deep down you know I am right or else you would have at least some form of response.

What makes you think I give a fuck about you that I would actually explain myself? You're a nobody loser. Play that in your head 5 times "I ruff am a nobody loser and MetaMan does not care about me".

Get the point? Loser.

Bring it on keyboard clownshoes. There is certainly nothing about you that gives you any credibility on this board other than the fact you were able to get a posting account. What's your real job, Amway?

The Porn Nerd 05-12-2012 12:54 PM

Israelis care about Israelis.
French care about the French.
Texans care about Texans.
What a world.
Can't we all get along?
No, apparently not.

MetaMan 05-12-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 18943536)
Bring it on keyboard clownshoes. There is certainly nothing about you that gives you any credibility on this board other than the fact you were able to get a posting account. What's your real job, Amway?

Bring "what" "on"? What part about I dont give a fuck about you don't you understand? I have nothing to bring on because let me remind you:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18943308)
You're a nobody loser. Play that in your head 5 times "I ruff am a nobody loser and MetaMan does not care about me".

Get the point? Loser.

I dont need or care about your "credibility" nor what you think is "fact" because you are a loser.

Lets try this one more time loser:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18943308)
What makes you think I give a fuck about you that I would actually explain myself? You're a nobody loser. Play that in your head 5 times "I ruff am a nobody loser and MetaMan does not care about me".

Get the point? Loser.

Ask all the questions you want I don't care about your own personal "talk show" that I'm sure everyone else (not just me) also doesn't give a fuck about.

Major (Tom) 05-12-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18943379)
No disrespect to my Jewish friends, but I don't give a fuck what happens to Israel.

I'm with ya. I have no problems with jews (except the zz top looking ones) as they are rude, but israel itself can dissapear & I would not give .0001 fucks. That place has been a herpe on mother earths vagina since it became an autonomous state.
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xKingx 05-12-2012 01:24 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mHCAWDirEH...olf-hitler.jpg

When will the world understand that Adolf Hitler was right

ruff 05-12-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18943554)
Bring "what" "on"? What part about I dont give a fuck about you don't you understand? I have nothing to bring on because let me remind you:



I dont need or care about your "credibility" nor what you think is "fact" because you are a loser.

Lets try this one more time loser:



Ask all the questions you want I don't care about your own personal "talk show" that I'm sure everyone else (not just me) also doesn't give a fuck about.

You are almost up to 27,000 posts. Yawn.:321GFY

asdasd 05-12-2012 03:29 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4IqAMwAGn1...s1600/ugly.jpg

oppoten 05-12-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18943421)
It is not "Jewish " it is the Israeli state, some of the leading opponents of Israel's actions are Jews

No, Jewish propoganda isn't just about the Israeli state.

It's about a core belief held by many Jews, including many liberal Jews, that Gentiles are unworthy of the truth.

wehateporn 05-12-2012 05:45 PM

The key point in all of this is that the Bankers have used Divide and Conquer tactics once again, they have scammed Jews (ethnic and religious) just like they've scammed everyone else. The Bankers funded both sides of the World Wars, they wanted the wars to bring about change in the world. The Rockefeller's funded the NAZI's, the Holocaust was funded from New York, a justification was needed to start a new country. Afterwards the whole thing gets exaggerated further for political purposes, as the Bankers wanted to get their country, now they've got it. They could have used Gypsy's for this if they had wanted, in which case we'd never hear about the Jews who died in the holocaust, but the Bankers chose Jews. They've been used as a chess piece.

Israel is still controlled by the Bankers, the actions of the state do not represent the Jewish people. The same Banking interests also control the UK and USA, and are behind the major false flag attacks such as 911 and 7/7.

Helix 05-12-2012 06:11 PM

I don't know if American Jews are fed up with Israel, but Israel is fed up with Obama just as the American people are.

moeloubani 05-12-2012 06:13 PM

as much as i am against israel i dont really think theres any jewish conspiracy or anything - i think other than the palestinians the jewish people that aren't israeli have the most to lose when israel acts the way they do and do it under the name of the jewish people

then you have people like bonzo who for some reason (blindly?) supports what israel does even though its basically common knowledge that what they do is wrong

The Porn Nerd 05-12-2012 06:27 PM

People do what's in their own best interests.
Israel just does it better than most countries, out of survival.
We'd all do the same if everyone everywhere, all around us, wanted us extinct.

moeloubani 05-12-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18943794)
People do what's in their own best interests.
Israel just does it better than most countries, out of survival.
We'd all do the same if everyone everywhere, all around us, wanted us extinct.

doesnt mean that it's okay for them to do it, any group that feels endangered does the same thing like al qaeda and the taliban and the nazis

in fact you can say that anyone who has ever killed someone did it for that reason

BFT3K 05-12-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 18943785)
I don't know if American Jews are fed up with Israel, but Israel is fed up with Obama just as the American people are.

Any president that pisses off Israel is okay in my book :thumbsup

theking 05-12-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18943775)
The key point in all of this is that the Bankers have used Divide and Conquer tactics once again, they have scammed Jews (ethnic and religious) just like they've scammed everyone else. The Bankers funded both sides of the World Wars, they wanted the wars to bring about change in the world. The Rockefeller's funded the NAZI's, the Holocaust was funded from New York, a justification was needed to start a new country. Afterwards the whole thing gets exaggerated further for political purposes, as the Bankers wanted to get their country, now they've got it. They could have used Gypsy's for this if they had wanted, in which case we'd never hear about the Jews who died in the holocaust, but the Bankers chose Jews. They've been used as a chess piece.

Israel is still controlled by the Bankers, the actions of the state do not represent the Jewish people. The same Banking interests also control the UK and USA, and are behind the major false flag attacks such as 911 and 7/7.

Nothing but pigshit...from a fruitcake.

wehateporn 05-12-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18943853)
Nothing but pigshit...from a fruitcake.

I'd recommend you block me, my posts will just confuse you

theking 05-12-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18943878)
I'd recommend you block me, my posts will just confuse you

No thanks...I don't block anyone...as I am amused by fruitcakes like you.

asdasd 05-12-2012 09:56 PM

For generally ignorant humans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Major (Tom) 05-13-2012 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18943823)
Any president that pisses off Israel is okay in my book :thumbsup

Carpet bomb the whole country. Pipe in water from the red sea. Make a new Dubai. Problem solved. Or if American cuts off aid the same thing will happen. Israel is Americas biggest waste of resources. Cut off aid, social medicine for all, & a water park. Sounds too good to be true.
ds

oppoten 05-13-2012 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18943775)
The key point in all of this is that the Bankers have used Divide and Conquer tactics once again, they have scammed Jews (ethnic and religious) just like they've scammed everyone else. The Bankers funded both sides of the World Wars, they wanted the wars to bring about change in the world. The Rockefeller's funded the NAZI's, the Holocaust was funded from New York, a justification was needed to start a new country. Afterwards the whole thing gets exaggerated further for political purposes, as the Bankers wanted to get their country, now they've got it. They could have used Gypsy's for this if they had wanted, in which case we'd never hear about the Jews who died in the holocaust, but the Bankers chose Jews. They've been used as a chess piece.

Israel is still controlled by the Bankers, the actions of the state do not represent the Jewish people. The same Banking interests also control the UK and USA, and are behind the major false flag attacks such as 911 and 7/7.

Honestly, I think talk of false flag operations undermines an otherwise very coherent argument.

Muslims had plenty of reason to attack New York and London.

arock10 05-13-2012 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18943775)
The key point in all of this is that the Bankers have used Divide and Conquer tactics once again, they have scammed Jews (ethnic and religious) just like they've scammed everyone else. The Bankers funded both sides of the World Wars, they wanted the wars to bring about change in the world. The Rockefeller's funded the NAZI's, the Holocaust was funded from New York, a justification was needed to start a new country. Afterwards the whole thing gets exaggerated further for political purposes, as the Bankers wanted to get their country, now they've got it. They could have used Gypsy's for this if they had wanted, in which case we'd never hear about the Jews who died in the holocaust, but the Bankers chose Jews. They've been used as a chess piece.

Israel is still controlled by the Bankers, the actions of the state do not represent the Jewish people. The same Banking interests also control the UK and USA, and are behind the major false flag attacks such as 911 and 7/7.

You are nuts

wehateporn 05-13-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18943888)
No thanks...I don't block anyone...as I am amused by fruitcakes like you.

I'm glad, as it's taking part that counts, it's nice to think that you can still take part in threads that go way over your head

wehateporn 05-13-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 18944338)
Honestly, I think talk of false flag operations undermines an otherwise very coherent argument.

Muslims had plenty of reason to attack New York and London.

Thanks for that oppoten, as you say the Muslims do have reason to attack, the question would be are they capable of it. Though that's for another thread

wehateporn 05-13-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 18944397)
You are nuts

Probably, but then we have a chicken-egg scenario

Diomed 05-13-2012 12:00 PM

I wonder how good ol Mel Gibson arrived at his conclusion about jews,

being that he worked with them for many many years in an industry owned by them.

theking 05-13-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomed (Post 18944716)
I wonder how good ol Mel Gibson arrived at his conclusion about jews,

being that he worked with them for many many years in an industry owned by them.

His father...I think.

theking 05-13-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18944646)
I'm glad, as it's taking part that counts, it's nice to think that you can still take part in threads that go way over your head

Nothing that has been posted on this board in the nine plus years that I have been a member has been way over my head...and certainly nothing that has been posted by you...sport.

Just Alex 05-13-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18943373)

(p.s. the reason why Jews were so involved in the bolshevik revolution (and I'm the furthest from the evils of communism as you can get), was that they were fighting the anti-jewish Pogroms being carried out under the Tzars.

.

What a load of horseshit. The jewish heads of Bolsheviks were very well educated in elite schools and universities. Some fucking anti-antisemitism there.

TheSquealer 05-13-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18944742)
What a load of horseshit. The jewish heads of Bolsheviks were very well educated in elite schools and universities. Some fucking anti-antisemitism there.

The first use of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to incite the public was used in Russia by the leadership at this time. Thats what he's talking about.

Just Alex 05-13-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18944763)
The first use of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to incite the public was used in Russia by the leadership at this time. Thats what he's talking about.

Well, looks like they were at least partially right.

Major (Tom) 05-13-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18944890)
If you want to know all about the true Israel or what they've done here's a great documentary made by an Israeli.



16:00 30:00 pretty much nailed the truth how the Zionist just simply ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. After living there and seeing the sheer hypocrisy, I'd never support Israel. I've met incredibly cool Israelis, but none I ever took serious unless they moved to the US and became Americans.


Bottom line is how do you ever reason with a people who think they are gods chosen.
think about that for a second
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$5 submissions 05-13-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by David! (Post 18941639)
Norman Finkelstein represents the view of 0.05% Jews. He is as respectable as a black man who becomes the spokesman for the KKK.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 05-13-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18941667)
The tiny numbers of Jews who are "fed up" with Israel will be wondering where in the world they will be able to run to, when the latest wave of rising anti-semitism in the world crashes through their own doors, and they realize that no other government in the world is going to protect them, and that there is no where else to go....

And the Palestinians who live there now can go fuck themselves. Where will they run to and do you care?

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18941736)
If you study the Holocaust at all, you understand Israel's position. Never before in history has any one race been threatened with their very existence. And this is why Israel exists now - to give a safe place to the Jews.

Well you're wrong. The Holocaust also murdered gypsies, Poles, Russian and anyone the Nazi's felt didn't fit their model. Now Israel is doing the same thing to Palestinians. Sticking them into ghettos, stealing their land, livelihood and making life so unpleasant in the hope they will go. And not giving a shit where they do go.

As for the Never before in history part. That's so wrong it makes your post seem totally biased or uneducated. It has happened many times and even Jews did it under the orders of God.

The rights of Israel to exist is based on a book largely written on myths. Once the Biblical stories are examined they fall apart. A man tells his soldiers to go kill the enemy because God id on their side and orders them to do it. Nearly every time an army goes into war.

God built the first WMD, the Ark, told the Israelis to kill all Canaanites, men, women and children, plus the animals. not sure what God had against the animals but that was the order from God. He brought down the walls of Jericho and he gave Israel, which was the land the Canaanites occupied to them. And if you read on you learn it was on Gods orders that the Israelites did a lot of killing and taking of other peoples land.

Or so some guy who claimed to speak to God said. :upsidedow :upsidedow

And this is their claim to the land of Palestine. And why they feel little compassion for the people they persecute and displace to get the land "God gave them".

The West pays for it everyday with lost lives in the Middle East and at home. Plus the huge costs. For no gain, Afghanistan will slide back to where it was, Al Queda just moved it's bases, Iraq is no longer a balance to Iran in the Middle East and every day another Islamic Fundamentalist is created who needs to be found and the citizens of the West need to be protected against. At huge costs in lives and money.

Because of what a man claimed God told him. :upsidedow

This goes for both sides.


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