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|  06-02-2012, 10:12 AM | #1 | 
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				 |  Just Alex read it out loud   SANFORD, Fla. ? The credibility of Trayvon Martin's shooter could be an issue at trial after a judge said that George Zimmerman and his wife lied to the court about their finances to obtain a bond, legal experts say. That's because the case hinges on jurors believing his account of what happened the night the 19-year-old was killed. The questioning of Zimmerman's truthfulness by the judge on Friday could undermine the defendant's credibility if it is brought up at trial. It also may complicate how his defense presents him as a witness, said Orlando-area attorney Randy McCLean, who is a former prosecutor. "The other key witness, unfortunately is deceased," McClean said. "Basically, Zimmerman is going to be asking the jury to believe his version of the facts ... As the case stands now, his credibility is absolutely critical to the case." Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder for the February shooting. The neighborhood watch volunteer says he shot Martin in self-defense because the unarmed 17-year-old was beating him up after confronting Zimmerman about following him in a gated community outside Orlando. Witness accounts of the rainy night Martin was shot are spotty. There is no video of the fight, though photos prosecutors have released showed Zimmerman with wounds to his face and the back of his head. Zimmerman's credibility with the judge would be important if O'Mara tries to get a judge without the jury to dismiss the charges based on the law, said Orlando defense attorney David Hill. "If he was in on something that was not truthfully revealed to the judge, when there is a `stand your ground' hearing, of course you're going to second-guess him," Hill said. Both McClean and Hill said O'Mara would be able to challenge the admissibility of the bond revocation at trial by questioning its relevance. Zimmerman was arrested 44 days after the killing, and during a bond hearing in April, his wife, Shellie, testified that the couple had limited funds available. The hearing also was notable because Zimmerman took the stand and apologized to Martin's parents. Prosecutors pointed out in their motion that Zimmerman had $135,000 available then. It had been raised from donations through a website he set up and they suggested more has been collected since and deposited in a bank account. Shellie Zimmerman was asked about the website at the hearing, but she said she didn't know how much money had been raised. Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester set bail at $150,000. The 28-year-old was freed a few days later after posting $15,000 in cash -- which is typical -- and has since been in hiding. Prosecutor Bernie De la Rionda complained Friday, "This court was led to believe they didn't have a single penny. It was misleading and I don't know what words to use other than it was a blatant lie." The judge agreed and ordered Zimmerman returned to jail by Sunday afternoon. "Does your client get to sit there like a potted plant and lead the court down the primrose path? That's the issue," Lester said. "He can't sit back and obtain the benefit of a lower bond based upon those material falsehoods." The defense countered that Zimmerman and his wife never used the money for anything, which indicated "there was no deceit." His attorney, Mark O'Mara, said it wouldn't be a problem to bring Zimmerman back into custody by the deadline. The judge said he would schedule a hearing after Zimmerman is back in custody so he could explain himself. Police in Sanford did not immediately arrest Zimmerman, citing Florida's "stand your ground" law that gives wide latitude to use deadly force rather than retreat in a fight if people believe they are in danger of being killed or seriously injured. Benjamin Crump, an attorney for Trayvon Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, said his clients have always said Zimmerman should remain in jail until trial, which O'Mara said he believed wouldn't be until next year. Crump was asked if he thought that if Zimmerman would be willing to lie about his finances that he would be willing to lie about what happen the night Martin was killed. "We fully expect that the special prosecutor will make George Zimmerman's credibility be front and center in this entire case," Crump said. "And whatever dishonesty that comes forth by George Zimmerman that they can prove, you can best believe it will become the issue of this case." The revocation of Zimmerman's bond also puts pressure on O'Mara to not delay the trial, McClean said. "When your client is out on bond, the pressure is much lighter to rush to trial ... because your client is sitting at home," he said. "When your client is sitting at the Seminole County Jail, your client is going to want this resolved. full article... 
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|  06-02-2012, 10:14 AM | #2 | 
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				 | There is no question, he fucked up his credibility big time. | 
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|  06-02-2012, 10:15 AM | #3 | 
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				 | Fuck that bitch. Who gives a fuck about that low life 
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|  06-02-2012, 10:20 AM | #4 | 
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				 | i think there needs to be an investigation into the favors the police dept gave his retired judge father.   
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|  06-02-2012, 11:09 AM | #5 | |
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				 | Dumb ass   http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerm...pPvjkA0lnQtDMD key word "to her knowledge".. Quote: 
  
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|  06-02-2012, 11:13 AM | #6 | |
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				 | Quote:  they showed the ruling live. your good for laughs     
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|  06-02-2012, 11:14 AM | #7 | |
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|  06-02-2012, 11:16 AM | #8 | 
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				 | And? What the fuck are you trying to say? Yes, they will have another bond hearing, he'll get it and post it. You day will be ruined - No Kwanzaa for you. End of story.  
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|  06-02-2012, 11:17 AM | #9 | 
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				 | its call an error 
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|  06-02-2012, 11:20 AM | #10 | |
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  the judge set no bond option on the warrant  so it looks like he will be in until the trial. the secret passport fucked him up.  
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|  06-02-2012, 11:26 AM | #11 | 
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				 | You don't have a fucking clue what that means?! Do ya?       
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|  06-02-2012, 11:27 AM | #12 | 
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|  06-02-2012, 11:29 AM | #13 | 
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				 | oh i know what it means i watched the oj trial   
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|  06-02-2012, 11:30 AM | #14 | 
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				 | His talking about your old ass. 
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|  06-02-2012, 11:31 AM | #15 | 
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				 | Right, the OJ trial. Glove didn't fit. 
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|  06-02-2012, 11:40 AM | #16 | 
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				 | I think there is no question Zimmerman has hurt his own case here. I think it is pretty much agreed up on that as to how the encounter between Zimmerman and Martin started. Zimmerman saw him, thought he looked suspicious and called the police. Martin took off, Zimmerman followed at first then stopped and said he was going to go meet the police. As more evidence comes out it sounds like it is pretty clear how it ended. Zimmerman and Martin were fighting. Zimmerman was losing and shot him. Where this case hinges is on the middle. How did the two come face to face and how did the fight start? If there is a witness or witnesses that saw this part of the encounter we the public haven't heard of them yet. It is possible that there are none in which case it will all come down to Zimmerman and whether or not he is believable and this little lie of his will make it more difficult for the jury to believe him. | 
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|  06-02-2012, 11:42 AM | #17 | 
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|  06-02-2012, 11:44 AM | #18 | 
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|  06-02-2012, 11:45 AM | #19 | |
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|  06-02-2012, 11:47 AM | #20 | 
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				 | so what he has bug eyes what's the point??? has nothing to do with zimmerman  kwanzaa is way off  
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|  06-02-2012, 11:52 AM | #21 | 
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				 | Yep, the 10 previous burglars. Ofcourse its racist to say that all of them were black, and white man forced them to rob.  
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|  06-02-2012, 11:52 AM | #22 | 
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				 | And my dancing cat does? Interesting hood logic. 
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|  06-02-2012, 11:56 AM | #23 | 
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				 | again your straying from the police data. the burglaries were mostly blacks, but not all of them. 
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|  06-02-2012, 12:10 PM | #24 | 
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				 | Thats so racist. 
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|  06-02-2012, 12:20 PM | #25 | 
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				 | almost everything is. look at voting time they break it down by race. 
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|  06-02-2012, 12:30 PM | #26 | 
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				 | I know, but suggesting blacks commit more crime is just crazy and very racist. 
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|  06-02-2012, 12:33 PM | #27 | 
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				 | on a world scale? or just small data by country 
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|  06-02-2012, 12:39 PM | #28 | 
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				 | Why would I care about Nigerian jungle bunnies when we have or own downtown? Ok, I have to go. Good luck on reaching 28K. Peace out  
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|  06-02-2012, 12:54 PM | #29 | 
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|  06-02-2012, 02:05 PM | #30 | 
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|  06-02-2012, 02:43 PM | #31 | 
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				 | She likes skittles too  
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|  06-02-2012, 06:04 PM | #34 | 
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				 | its fun pulling his chain 
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|  06-02-2012, 06:07 PM | #35 | 
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|  06-02-2012, 06:08 PM | #36 | 
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|  06-02-2012, 06:08 PM | #37 | 
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				 | Oh please Jamal. The only chin you're pulling is your own.  Do you do anything else besides posting on gfy all day? Seriously.  
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|  06-02-2012, 06:47 PM | #39 | 
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				 | I have no idea what the fuck ANY of you are talking about ad I don't care, but Mr. Noddy Head Failed Actress Avatar is a blatant rascist. If he's not a rascist - as I sometimes think the idiot is trying to be ironic - he's just fucking stupid. I think he's a rascist, though. Even while arguing with me, he (it?) uses racist images in lieu of actual argument or discussion. I'll call him a brain dead, illiterate idiot. In response he posts a pic of an African American male touching himself. WTF? | 
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|  06-02-2012, 07:20 PM | #43 | |
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|  06-02-2012, 08:30 PM | #45 | 
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				 | Oh, the priceless one liners you come up with. 28K post and just about all of them useless. 
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  zimmer will be in jail by monday  Zimmerman had not turned himself in as of early Saturday evening, the day after his bond was revoked. He must do so by Sunday afternoon. 
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|  06-02-2012, 09:01 PM | #48 | |
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 No work on Monday! wait, what work? 
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  i love your racist rants  wtf does zimmers bail have to do with black people working?? well my racist troll im putting you back in your cage im going to watch some movies.  
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|  06-02-2012, 09:10 PM | #50 | |
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 What are you watching? 
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