Hi-end "Cinematic Style" Movies - Is This The Future?

[DeanCapture]

Are hi-end "cinematic style" movies the future? Some people think so. Look at SexArt.com & Babes.com. Both companies are dumping significant time, money & resources to be some of the first to take advantage of this space. I've also heard of several other companies who are looking to launch sites very soon to compete in this market.

If any of you are interested in getting into the hi-end cinematic style movie biz, hit me up. My crew and I understand this space completely and will be happy to discuss the possibilities of working together with you on your project(s). I'm looking for one amazing client who wants to "seriously" compete in this market. One with good budgets that prefers quality over quantity. Someone who appreciates the years of study that my crew and I bring to this space and who wants to separate themselves from the rest of the competition. I can bring to this space the same thing that I brought to the glam/babe market back in 2006 when Shap signed me to an exclusive contract to help him separate Twistys from the rest of his competition. Twistys quickly went from relative obscurity to a leader in their category. Of course I do not take all the credit for Twistys success....but our contribution over the years has been signifiant.

Of my three crew members, two are film-school graduates. One of them is a writer and the other is a camera-operator & editor. I'm also a camera-operator & editor. We can write custom scenes, film them, edit them, enhance them with great audio, a custom (music) score, beautiful color correction & grading and deliver web-ready content in just a matter of days after the shoot. Their skills along with mine will enable us to produce some of the most beautiful cinematic footage available in this space.

Cinematic style movies that grab attention require skills that can take years to develop. Lighting for cinematic style movies is completely different than flat/gonzo style lighting. The compositions, camera angles and pace of the editing also plays a significant roll in achieving a cinematic style?as does the color grading, audio enhancements and music. I personally have extensive knowledge in lighting (25+ years) as well as audio recording, audio engineering and music production. Your film(s) will not look (or sound) like anything that you're used to seeing on the web.

Also, because I live in Hollywood, I've had the opportunity over the years to befriend cinematographers, color-graders & audio engineers who work on feature movies. These friendships and the knowledge that I've learned from these people will prove invaluable for content production in this space.

I have edited a small "teaser" that demo's just a hint of our skills in this space. If you'd like to see it and you are a serious buyer for this type of material, email me (email is in my sig). If you email me, be sure to include a bit of info about yourself, your company and what you're trying to do. The more info you provide, the better. NOTE: I will not be wasting time with? or sharing the demo with those who are just curious to see what we're up to. If you're too afraid to tell me who you are, what company you own/run and what you're trying to achieve in this space, you will not get a reply.

Arny Freytag, legendary photographer at Playboy said this about our demo: "I think it looks GREAT! You are very good at this, both technically and in terms of sensuality. Love the climax, it is the first that I actually believed. Most look fake and nothing but a girl screaming."

My crew and I are ready to rock the hi-end cinematic adult space - the question is "who are we going to do it with"?

[candyflip]

If it is, I should be able to find myself some work in the next few years...once I graduate from film school.

I'd love to work on one of your sets Dean. I travel and work cheap

[Sophie Delancey]

I think it's absolutely the future. We've been working hard to cultivate a beautiful, cinematic style in our work for quite a few years, and it has really paid off and the attention just keeps growing. People are definitely seeing the value.

[Mutt]

no idea why you can't show a short clip from the demo.

[lucas131]

and where is the porn?

[MrBottomTooth]

Personally I don't like my porn with too much story. Gets in the way of the fapping.

I can certainly appreciate the work that goes into them though and I'm sure there are some people that would pay to see them.

But when you have tube sites with every possible type of fetish available within a few clicks it has to hurt the market for big budget pornos, especially when people just want to get off.

[MaDalton]

it's the future until something new comes around ;)

[CaptainHowdy]

I hope so, gynecological porn has got to go ...

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Personally I don't like my porn with too much story. Gets in the way of the fapping.

I can certainly appreciate the work that goes into them though and I'm sure there are some people that would pay to see them.

But when you have tube sites with every possible type of fetish available within a few clicks it has to hurt the market for big budget pornos, especially when people just want to get off.

I feel like this type of film might appeal to the female audience or maybe even couples more than straight up hardcore. I could be wrong though

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

it's the future until something new comes around ;)

That would be Super Slow Motion...gonna pick up an FS700?

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by candyflip

That would be Super Slow Motion...gonna pick up an FS700?

only if someone is asking for it (and orders more than 1 scene)

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by Mutt

no idea why you can't show a short clip from the demo.

The footage used in my demo does not belong to me. I shot it, but it belongs to a client. I do not have permission to post this material all over the boards. No reason to post a sample here anyway. Can you imagine what this thread would turn in to? Nothing but haters & trolls giving their opinion. Seriously, who needs that?

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by Sophie Delancey

I think it's absolutely the future. We've been working hard to cultivate a beautiful, cinematic style in our work for quite a few years, and it has really paid off and the attention just keeps growing. People are definitely seeing the value.

You guys do a great job

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

it's the future until something new comes around ;)

LOL true!

[barcodes]

[Love Sex]

I dont think it will happen. Its to slow moving.

These remind me of softcore movies just a lot better.

[BlackCrayon]

theres definitely a market for it but its like all the people watching hardcore porn are suddenly wanting glam type porn.

[TheSquealer]

You are talking about a tiny niche. Nothing more.

[asianseekerz]

ummm interesting

[Mutt]

people act like 'cinematic' glam porn is new - Andrew Blake and Michael Ninn have been doing it for decades.

i don't consider X-Art to be 'glam', his content has an artsy minimalist fashion style.

[L-Pink]

Andrew Blake with new cameras.

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[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Mutt

people act like 'cinematic' glam porn is new - Andrew Blake and Michael Ninn have been doing it for decades.

i don't consider X-Art to be 'glam', his content has an artsy minimalist fashion style.

They made/make a polished product. Unfortunately, oftentimes it was so polished as to end up sanitized of any sort of down and dirty sex appeal, imho.

[ninavain]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You are talking about a tiny niche. Nothing more.

exactly.. the only way cinematic porn works if it's 5-6mins long and shoved on a tube site...end thread

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by Far-L

They made/make a polished product. Unfortunately, oftentimes it was so polished as to end up sanitized of any sort of down and dirty sex appeal, imho.

not my thing, as beautiful as X-Art's videos are and I've checked out a bunch, i find them very boring and definitely not jackoff material. i like videos where it's a guy and a chick alone in a room, no cameraman, tripod and POV mixed, going at it, be it intimate romantic style or like animals.

[HDADULT]

Total couple magnet.

[thegreatestporn]

Originally Posted by HDADULT

Total couple magnet.

Yep. My wife would love this stuff.

[RevSand]

Dean you are the BEST at this style and always have been w/ your pictures..

Its not my thing but in a couples market I can see it paying off.

Originally Posted by Mutt

not my thing, as beautiful as X-Art's videos are and I've checked out a bunch, i find them very boring and definitely not jackoff material. i like videos where it's a guy and a chick alone in a room, no cameraman, tripod and POV mixed, going at it, be it intimate romantic style or like animals.

I agree. I think the only real goal of any porn is to help fill a guys belly button w/ his own cum. If my porn can do that then I did my job for the day. And each person needs something different to achieve that goal. Finding that "thing" is the secret. Dean has done it w/ the pretty girl porn, kink has done it w/ fetish and I might find another way.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Personally I don't like my porn with too much story. Gets in the way of the fapping.

I agree. Just like my video games - I don't want a fucking story, I want to play a video game. Save the stories for the books.

With porn, pretty is nice... But I'm not watching a movie. I'm watching people having sex.

[Timsb]

I actually like the high cinematic style the only reason the straight hardcore is better right now is they high cinematic is like too fake- Just my opinion

[ninavain]

Originally Posted by RevSand

I think the only real goal of any porn is to help fill a guys belly button w/ his own cum.

too much info

[JFK]

tough audience here Dean, you gonna have to put extra photo shop in there

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by JFK

tough audience here Dean, you gonna have to put extra photo shop in there

LOL true true. I just figured out how to edit video with photoshop so watch the fuck out

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Mutt

people act like 'cinematic' glam porn is new - Andrew Blake and Michael Ninn have been doing it for decades.

i don't consider X-Art to be 'glam', his content has an artsy minimalist fashion style.

And a few more. Not naming them to start a flaming game.

The future is employing a great shooter who can create something the rest of the herd can't. Being able to put something on a Tube that creates the desire to see more. And it can be any niche. doesn't have to be the Artsy Hi-end "Cinematic Style".

Find the next Buttman and you have a winning Gonzo style. Next Rocco and you have a Hard Core Star, etc. Yes there are many more examples.

Those who want to stick with producing the same level as everyone else are done for. Because you can't protect it from the effects of piracy and Tubes. As other producers won't fight the battle and the free loaders will watch their movies for free.

The only problem is paying for it. Might be cheaper to make the guys who know how to do this an offer. All it ever took was money.

[grumpy]

its all about knowing your audience, a movie like that would be a waste at my customers.

[bronco67]

Will there be girls with hot asses? That's all I care about. I like to keep my porn and "cinema" separate.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

LOL true true. I just figured out how to edit video with photoshop so watch the fuck out

You have to do it with Flair ............... Long sweeping brush strokes, to give it that Artsy Cinematic feeling

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by candyflip

If it is, I should be able to find myself some work in the next few years...once I graduate from film school.

I'd love to work on one of your sets Dean. I travel and work cheap

will you rip his movies and claim they are yours?

[Mefo]

Stuff like this? http://www.cabaretdesire.com/

It´s selling like crazy for couples and women and men who love the cinematic quality feeling of the story

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And a few more. Not naming them to start a flaming game.

The future is employing a great shooter who can create something the rest of the herd can't. Being able to put something on a Tube that creates the desire to see more. And it can be any niche. doesn't have to be the Artsy Hi-end "Cinematic Style".

Find the next Buttman and you have a winning Gonzo style. Next Rocco and you have a Hard Core Star, etc. Yes there are many more examples.

Those who want to stick with producing the same level as everyone else are done for. Because you can't protect it from the effects of piracy and Tubes. As other producers won't fight the battle and the free loaders will watch their movies for free.

The only problem is paying for it. Might be cheaper to make the guys who know how to do this an offer. All it ever took was money.

I agree 110% Paul.

[ladida]

Originally Posted by Mutt

not my thing, as beautiful as X-Art's videos are and I've checked out a bunch, i find them very boring and definitely not jackoff material..

X-Art has it's success in having girls of met-art type being fucked. That's it. Nothing more nothing less. He does put a lot in production, but i've seen few vids of his, not arousing in the least for me (aside from the hot chick in the flick). He also likes to cut out the ejaculation point and post fake cum and crap that totally ruins the vid. I dont know does he do that still.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by epitome

I agree 110% Paul.

O M G someone is agreeing with Paul ??? What's this board coming to ?

[Fenris Wolf]

Can you please email me with more details at fenris_wolf3000 ( a t ) yah00 . c0m including what you would consider a realistic budget.

[Sophie Delancey]

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

You guys do a great job

The feeling is very mutual!

[JP-pornshooter]

i sorta remember when Private came out with their movies.
Beautiful locations - exotic beaches or exuberant mansions.
Hottest girls on the planet
Great cinematography
Very hot hardcore scenes (though too much anal and dp for my taste)

Dean, you might be able to create a new niche - good luck!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by JFK

O M G someone is agreeing with Paul ??? What's this board coming to ?

Had to happen sometime.

[Cherry7]

We have been doing it since the silent era....



The Maid


Until present day...

The Box

[nickey1952]

Its not easy creating a story for a thirty or thirty five minute film in 4-5 hrs. Most things on tv take 5-6 days to create a 26 minute show. You can throw all the post production at a story that is shit and get a good looking shitty story. It all starts in the directors and writers mind. If it is not on paper it will never be on screen no matter how many plugins you add. As in the babes.com trailer, they had tons of footage and high end post production with original music to make a cool looking trailer. but in looking at their site again they have alot of post production filters and some great editing to make the film look high end. It just doesnt look anything like their trailer. Good looking girls with good locations and great action sell porn, not soft focus and music,,,,