Russia internet blacklist law takes effect

[DVTimes]

A law that aims to protect children from harmful internet content by allowing the government to take sites offline has taken effect in Russia.

The authorities are now able to blacklist and force offline certain websites without a trial.

The law was approved by both houses of parliament and signed by President Vladimir Putin in July.

Human rights groups have said the legislation might increase censorship in the country.

The law is the amendment to the current Act for Information.

The authorities say the goal is to protect minors from websites featuring sexual abuse of children, offering details about how to commit suicide, encouraging users to take drugs and sites that solicit children for pornography.

If the websites themselves cannot be shut down, internet service providers (ISPs) and web hosting companies can be forced to block access to the offending material.


Critics have described it another attempt by President Vladimir Putin to exercise control over the population.

"Of course there are websites that should not be accessible to children, but I don't think it will be limited to that," Yuri Vdovin, vice-president of Citizens' Watch, a human rights organisation based in Saint-Petersburg, told the BBC.

"The government will start closing other sites - any democracy-oriented sites are at risk of being taken offline.

"It will be [an attack on] the freedom of speech on the internet."

Mr Vdovin said that to close a website, the government would simply have to say that its content was "harmful to children".

"But there are lots of harmful websites out there already, for example, fascist sites - and they could have easily been closed down by now - but no, [the government] doesn't care, there are no attempts to do so," he added.

A risk for websites?

Besides NGOs and human rights campaigners, websites including the Russian search engine giant Yandex, social media portal Mail.ru and the Russian-language version of Wikipedia have all protested against the law.

The latter, for instance, took its content offline for a day ahead of the vote in July, claiming the law "could lead to the creation of extra-judicial censorship of the entire internet in Russia, including banning access to Wikipedia in the Russian language".

Yandex temporarily crossed out the word "everything" in its "everything will be found" logo.

"The way the new law will work depends on the enforcement practice," said a spokesman.

"Yandex, along with other key Russian market players, is ready to discuss with lawmakers the way it is going to work."

In July, the Russian social networking site Vkontakte posted messages on users' homepages warning that the law posed a risk to its future.

However, the country's telecom minister Nikolai Nikiforov, suggested that such concerns were overblown when he spoke at the NeForum blogging conference this week.

"Internet has always been a free territory," he said, according to a report by Russian news agency Tass.

"The government is not aimed at enforcing censorship there. LiveJournal, YouTube and Facebook showcase socially responsible companies.

"That means that they will be blocked only if they refuse to follow Russian laws, which is unlikely, in my opinion."

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[Grapesoda]

translation: pay up or your site gets dumped

[ImLarge]

They going to close sites that attack the big people

[Mr Pheer]

How do we keep the russian spammers off the internet?

[helterskelter808]

Yeah, I was hoping the subject of this thread meant the civilized world had finally done the right thing and blacklisted Russia. If we can't nuke the mafia state forward to the stone age, the least we can do is shut it down online.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

translation: pay up or your site gets dumped

Yeah, something like that

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

How do we keep the russian spammers off the internet?

Kill yourself, and you'll be ok.

[Paul Markham]

If the law says a minor shouldn't be allowed to view porn, bans porn shops from displaying hardcore in their windows. Why should it not apply to the Internet?

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Kill yourself, and you'll be ok.

Let's both kill ourselves. You go first.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Yeah, I was hoping the subject of this thread meant the civilized world had finally done the right thing and blacklisted Russia. If we can't nuke the mafia state forward to the stone age, the least we can do is shut it down online.

Another stupid dumbass.

[helterskelter808]

In Russia kids can't view porn, even though 99% of them star in it.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If the law says a minor shouldn't be allowed to view porn, bans porn shops from displaying hardcore in their windows. Why should it not apply to the Internet?

That's not about porn. That's about politics. Everybody who want to protect their children from porn will turn the built-in parental control on (Windows, Mac OS X and the major anti-virus software supports it by default). Alternatively they can use 3rd-party solutions like NetNanny etc. As you can see, there is no need to block websites on the ISP level.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

How do we keep the russian spammers off the internet?

Believe it or not most of the spammers and file sharers come from the USA and parts of the EU

[helterskelter808]

The difference is the US and other Western countries also provide a massive positive contribution to the internet. What does Russia do, except criminal and shady activities? That applies offline too.

[Zeiss]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

In Russia kids can't view porn, even though 99% of them star in it.

True, true...

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

In Russia kids can't view porn, even though 99% of them star in it.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

In Russia kids can't view porn, even though 99% of them star in it.

Where your knowledge is coming from? Are you pedo or what?

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

The difference is the US and other Western countries also provide a massive positive contribution to the internet. What does Russia do, except criminal and shady activities? That applies offline too.

"Criminal activities"? You're an idiot. Russia has never been even close to the USA on the amount of carders, spammers, filesharing monkeys etc. Get a clue, moron.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

"Criminal activities"? You're an idiot. Russia has never been even close to the USA on the amount of carders, spammers, filesharing monkeys etc. Get a clue, moron.

I'm guessing by your failure to give a single example of anything positive to come from Russia, that nothing exists. Thanks. That's what I thought.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Let's both kill ourselves. You go first.

nope, I'm ah scared... you first

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

That's not about porn. That's about politics. Everybody who want to protect their children from porn will turn the built-in parental control on (Windows, Mac OS X and the major anti-virus software supports it by default). Alternatively they can use 3rd-party solutions like NetNanny etc. As you can see, there is no need to block websites on the ISP level.

Says a man scared his site might get blocked.

I wasn't talking about Russia. I was talking about porn. If all parents did use Net Nanny type products, why are you so worried the ISP will block porn sites?

To remind you of my question, which you didn't answer.

If the law says a minor shouldn't be allowed to view porn, bans porn shops from displaying hardcore in their windows. Why should it not apply to the Internet?

Is your answer the shops shouldn't be stopped from showing hardcore porn in the windows and it's the parents job to make sure they don't look?

[qwe]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

I'm guessing by your failure to give a single example of anything positive to come from Russia, that nothing exists. Thanks. That's what I thought.

how about you're speaking English right now instead of German for one? or huge technological advances because of cold war and pressure to innovate, flying into space first and have USA playing catch up?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

I'm guessing by your failure to give a single example

Get at least a signature to show who you are and what you do, fuckin' clown.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Says a man scared his site might get blocked.

I was learned to respect the seniors, so I won't be rude with you, old man. Just make sure to check my site (see sig.) and find out at least one reason why exactly it could be blocked anywhere.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Get at least a signature to show who you are and what you do, fuckin' clown.

And what the fuck do you do? Sell software that can automate the theft of other people's hard work, and is designed to make sure such theft goes unnoticed. Who'd have thought that from a Russian.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by qwe

how about you're speaking English right now instead of German for one? or huge technological advances because of cold war and pressure to innovate, flying into space first and have USA playing catch up?

Ah yes. The ingenious Russian strategy to defeat Germany: murder half your own army, then use the other half to help Hitler remove the only buffer between yourselves and a country sworn to annihilate you. Genius.

Don't worry, the world will never, ever forget how Russia supported and allied itself with the Nazis.

I fully accept your achievement in being the first country to murder a dog in space though.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Where your knowledge is coming from? Are you pedo or what?



"Criminal activities"? You're an idiot. Russia has never been even close to the USA on the amount of carders, spammers, filesharing monkeys etc. Get a clue, moron.

Let me guess, you are Russian? And because of that you can't admit what a shithole it is when it comes to the internet. If so, then you are a fucking idiot.

[adultmobile]

If such authority decides to ban from Russia those cam sites who target russian customers mostly or exclusively, these business are instantly failed:

ruscams.com
runetki.com
video-girl.tv

I pray for them.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Let me guess, you are Russian? And because of that you can't admit what a shithole it is when it comes to the internet. If so, then you are a fucking idiot.

Seems Russians are very thin skinned, and find it hard to admit failings about their own country.

So, in the spirit of detente, I will say that I love the Russian language and Russian accent. I like Tetris, vodka and most of 200 По Встречной.

Much respect to Rasputin and his monster cock, the Queen who totally died while fucking a horse, the Bolsheviks for kicking the Tsar's ass and winning the Civil War, and the Red Army for bearing the brunt of Nazi aggression.

Come And See is one of the best movies about war ever, Soviet propaganda art is the finest in the world, Soviet military parades were totalitarianism at its best, and the Soviet national anthem is the greatest, most inspiring anthem in the world... ever.



I miss our old friends, the CCCP.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Sell software that can automate the theft of other people's hard work

You are an idiot. Do you know it?

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

You are an idiot. Do you know it?

Are you Russian by any chance?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

And because of that you can't admit what a shithole it is when it comes to the internet. If so, then you are a fucking idiot.

You are really clueless moron, Frank. As I said above, most Internet scammers such as carders (ask FBI), uploading monkeys (ask AdultKing), spammers (ask spamhaus) are not based in Russia. They all are based in some other country. Is Chris Mallick a Russian citizen? May be IBill or Prodult were based in Russia? You must be living in some frickin' parallel Universe if you do really believe into that nonsense you said above.

And yes, I'm a Russian and I don't like when some piece of shit is trying to attack me based on my national origin. My scripts (e.g. Morphing Feeds) are being used by other than 100 affiliate programs such as Payserve, EuroRevenue, SapphicCash, Twistys, Private Inc, etc. Now tell me what have you personally done? Anything useful?

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I'm a Russian

And there we go...

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

And there we go...

There you go. Because you are seem to be only one at GFY who didn't know that (I don't count all those accidental surfers like helterskelter808). All my customers know it too and they (AFAIK) have no problems with my national origin. So what's your problem, Frank?

[Serious-Partner]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Yeah, I was hoping the subject of this thread meant the civilized world had finally done the right thing and blacklisted Russia. If we can't nuke the mafia state forward to the stone age, the least we can do is shut it down online.

thats nuts.. Fascism is long gone moron

[Voland 13]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Where your knowledge is coming from? Are you pedo or what?



"Criminal activities"? You're an idiot. Russia has never been even close to the USA on the amount of carders, spammers, filesharing monkeys etc. Get a clue, moron.

That's DEFINITELY True! Imho Dirty F just trying to post as much bullshit as he can here.. I read a lot of posts here and don't like to post much but sometimes your trashy posts makes me mad... 95% of bullshit from asshole

[Dirty F]

Aw look at the comrades going nuts because they refuse to admit the Russian internet is full of criminals. How cute..

Nah, actually quite sad.

[just a punk]

Тaмбoвcкий вoлк тeбe кoмpад.

[helterskelter808]

OMG is this guy still butthurt over some comments on the internets? Even after a positive post about what I like about Russia... still whining.

Do Russians really have no sense of humor or self-awareness about the Motherland? Everyone else can criticize or laugh at or accept criticism of their own country, but not Russians?

Ask 100 people what USA is famous for on the internet, and most people will say Facebook or Google or some other popular, legal, legitimate website. Ask 100 people what Russia is famous for on the internet, and every single person will suggest a crime.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Do Russians really have no sense of humor

[helterskelter808]

Shutting the fuck up might be a way of life where you're from, Comrade, where girls are jailed merely for protesting at the Government, but not in the free world.