Wikipedia founder starts petition for a pirate. - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 06-25-2012, 06:13 AM

Interesting to say the least. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-18577003

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The founder of online encyclopaedia Wikipedia has started a petition seeking to block the extradition of a British student to the US.

Jimmy Wales has shown his support for Sheffield student Richard O'Dwyer, who is contesting extradition to the US to face copyright infringement charges.

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The case was brought by the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, which claims that the TVShack.net website earned more than $230,000 (£147,000) in advertising revenue before US authorities obtained a warrant and seized the domain name in June 2010.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

DamianJ · 06-25-2012, 06:20 AM

So you think google should be facing jail time too then Paul?

BIGTYMER · 06-25-2012, 06:32 AM

Google needs to be broken up like Ma Bell back in the day.

pornguy · 06-25-2012, 06:33 AM

Paul your starting to sound like our resident pirate.

candyflip · 06-25-2012, 06:33 AM

Paul do you even know what TVShack was?

I wouldn't be surprised if you know nothing of the site or case, aside from what you just read in that article.

nakeddutch · 06-25-2012, 06:35 AM

let's see what unfolds next.

Freaky_Akula · 06-25-2012, 07:08 AM

Paul Markham copied a copyrighted article about copyright from the BBC website and posted it here with the intent to make money from his signature?

pornmasta · 06-25-2012, 07:10 AM

Tijuana_Tom · 06-25-2012, 07:11 AM

I wonder if Wikipedia has any big anti-piracy donators.

_Lush_ · 06-25-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula

Paul Markham copied a copyrighted article about copyright from the BBC website and posted it here with the intent to make money from his signature?

O no I see an army of gfy pitchfork wielders marching up the steps of his payment processors any minute now demanding they stop processing his sites.

AllAboutCams · 06-25-2012, 09:59 AM

shut the fuck up for fucks sake
why should the USA take someone from the UK they don't control the world

NewNick · 06-25-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

So you think google should be facing jail time too then Paul?

Google is the biggest pirate of them all.

Paul Markham · 06-25-2012, 10:50 AM

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So you think google should be facing jail time too then Paul?

Because Newnick posted it.

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The case was brought by the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, which claims that the TVShack.net website earned more than $230,000 (£147,000) in advertising revenue before US authorities obtained a warrant and seized the domain name in June 2010.

so you think him or his family should be offered the chance to pay the money he made to the copyright holders and the same in a fine. Or he should get a weeks probation?

What is your solution. Not that anyone in power give a fuck what you think.

Edited because I will not sink to his level.

AllAboutCams · 06-25-2012, 10:55 AM

if he did something wrong while living in the usa that would be a different thing but he is in the uk so nothing should happen to him from outside of the uk

DamianJ · 06-25-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Google is the biggest pirate of them all.

So why aren't they facing jailtime and a kid in England is being extradited for doing the same thing...

?

DamianJ · 06-25-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Because Newnick posted it.

So you agree? That google should go to jail too?

Do you even understand why Google are the same as this kid?

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

so you think him or his family should be offered the chance to pay the money he made to the copyright holders and the same in a fine. Or he should get a weeks probation?

What is your solution. Not that anyone in power give a fuck what you think.

Edited because I will not sink to his level.

Why do you think Google should be treated differently to him?

They make MILLIONS more from piracy than he does.

How come you support picking on the little guy, but not the big guys?

I'm confused?

Freaky_Akula · 06-25-2012, 11:11 AM

Let's report Paul Markham's copyright infringement to the BBC!

crazyvipa · 06-25-2012, 11:14 AM

Hate to get political and chime in here, but extradition is a fact of life. USA is a part of International Law, as well as the UK.

As far as extradition goes, found this on wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ition_treaties

Here comes the fun part, if the USA proves he accepted money from a US based corporation -- it falls under USA jurisdiction.

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evidence has been presented by the foreign government that indicates that had the offenses been committed in the United States

Honestly, could care less what happens in other countries -- but without these types of laws - the internet would even be a bigger war zone / threat than it already is.

Tijuana_Tom · 06-25-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxupdate

if he did something wrong while living in the usa that would be a different thing but he is in the uk so nothing should happen to him from outside of the uk

Aww look at you, soo cute.

Soo dumb...

rogueteens · 06-25-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyvipa

Hate to get political and chime in here, but extradition is a fact of life. USA is a part of International Law, as well as the UK.

As far as extradition goes, found this on wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ition_treaties

Here comes the fun part, if the USA proves he accepted money from a US based corporation -- it falls under USA jurisdiction.

Honestly, could care less what happens in other countries -- but without these types of laws - the internet would even be a bigger war zone / threat than it already is.

The UK and US have a special extradition treaty and this is why there is such a big hoo-ha over this case, the treaty is massively one-sided and his case has become an issue in the British media mainly to highlight this more than what he did. The same with the kid who hacked the american military computers looking for UFO information.

Paul Markham · 06-25-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

I'm confused?

So no news to anyone here.

Confused or scared?

Still waiting for you to reply to my question. What do you think his punishment should be if found guilty?

Paul Markham · 06-25-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyvipa

Honestly, could care less what happens in other countries -- but without these types of laws - the internet would even be a bigger war zone / threat than it already is.

The big difference, except with those who support all piracy or think fighting it is a waste of time. Is this guy didn't steal their hard work to leech a living off of.

If it had been a massive tube stealing traffic, they would be calling for the same penalties.

DamianJ · 06-26-2012, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

Google and a pirate site are completely different.

This is a rare instance were Paul is right.

Google provides links to where you can download pirated content. They do not host the content. They make money from advertising around these links to pirated content.

The torrent site provided links to where you can download pirated content. They do not host the content. They made a little money from advertising around these links to pirated content.

Can you explain to me, in laymans' terms, the technical difference?

DamianJ · 06-26-2012, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So no news to anyone here.

Confused or scared?

Still waiting for you to reply to my question. What do you think his punishment should be if found guilty?

Same as Google get for doing the same thing, on a MUCH MUCH more profitable scale.

Paul Markham · 06-26-2012, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Google provides links to where you can download pirated content. They do not host the content. They make money from advertising around these links to pirated content.

The torrent site provided links to where you can download pirated content. They do not host the content. They made a little money from advertising around these links to pirated content.

Can you explain to me, in laymans' terms, the technical difference?

Google are not breaking any laws. This guy did.

Until providing links to these sites is illegal, Google are legal.

DamianJ · 06-26-2012, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Google are not breaking any laws. This guy did.

Until providing links to these sites is illegal, Google are legal.

What law did he break that google isn't breaking by providing links to places you can download illegal content?

Think it through before you answer. I know all this is confusing for you.

DamianJ · 06-26-2012, 09:09 AM

Can anyone explain to me the difference between this kid making money from ads next to a link to a file that may or may not infringe copyright and google making a lot of money from ads next to a link that may or may not infringe copyright?

anexsia · 06-26-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Google are not breaking any laws. This guy did.

Until providing links to these sites is illegal, Google are legal.

What? Did you even research his case before you posted this article? He was linking to the content, which is what Google does.

johnnyloadproductions · 06-26-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

What? Did you even research his case before you posted this article? He was linking to the content, which is what Google does.

You are right anexsia. Indexing links isn't a crime. As long as you don't host the content on your own servers.

Though there have been cases of people still being prosecuted for this.

anexsia · 06-26-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

You are right anexsia. Indexing links isn't a crime. As long as you don't host the content on your own servers.

Though there have been cases of people still being prosecuted for this.

I was just pointing it out to him that this guy was linking to the material...which I won't get into whether it's wrong or right, that's up to the courts to decide.

jscott · 06-26-2012, 10:22 AM

Jimmy Wales used to send me Bomis tshirts

DamianJ · 06-26-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

What? Did you even research his case before you posted this article? He was linking to the content, which is what Google does.

Paul doesn't really understand, well, anything as far as I can see.

Paul Markham · 06-26-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

You are right anexsia. Indexing links isn't a crime. As long as you don't host the content on your own servers.

Though there have been cases of people still being prosecuted for this.

So why did the courts grant the extradition if there was no crime?

Seems he must of broken some laws.

bigluv · 06-26-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So why did the courts grant the extradition if there was no crime?

Seems he must of broken some laws.

I guess the judge was as astute as you are.

DamianJ · 06-26-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Seems he must of broken some laws.

So you have no idea what crimes he was extradited for?

Hilarious

Paul Markham · 06-26-2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv

I guess the judge was as astute as you are.

And the defense council. I would love to know the actual law he broke.

CPA37710T · 06-26-2012, 11:50 PM

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Paul Markham · 06-26-2012, 11:59 PM

Could it be that the law covers those who are just gathering information from everywhere automatically and penalises those physically gathering links?

He must of broken a law somewhere otherwise the extradition would not of happened.

papill0n · 06-27-2012, 12:03 AM

great thread paul - im seeing huge sales for you today mate

DamianJ · 06-27-2012, 12:44 AM

Do you think Paul just has a google alert for PIRACY and then posts every article here without reading, comprehending or thinking about the content?

Paul, why should a kid be extradited for doing the same thing as google do? In your own words.

seeme · 06-27-2012, 12:52 AM

Totally against extraditing him, what a fucked up world we live in.. run by the US.

Half man, Half Amazing · 06-27-2012, 12:56 AM

Shouldn't this thread be titled Wikipedia co-founder?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Sanger

Jimbo can't edit out this history!

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