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07-12-2012, 07:29 PM | #51 | |
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And Paul Markham , just worry bout your own fucking country. Every country has thier own issues but this isnt the thread to discuss it. |
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07-12-2012, 09:01 PM | #52 |
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Social Security and Medicare for everyone.
There, problem solved. Next.
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07-12-2012, 10:29 PM | #53 |
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I've had my Father killed, Brother was going to be left to die and Mother ripped off by by the American Health System. So I have a right to worry about the the system.
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07-13-2012, 12:09 AM | #54 | |
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Australia has basically the same 5 year cancer survival rates as the US and we spend FAR less to achieve it given our universal health care (9.4% of GDP as opposed to 15.2%) and that's even using 5 year survival rates as a measurement which in itself is somewhat innaccurate as it doesn't measure effectiveness of treatment more than it measures how early the cancer was diagnosed. I wouldn't give our system up for the world, and I have private health insurance here. The PBS alone is worth it. I was recently in discussion about potentially moving to the states for a job opening and the main issue I had was your healthcare system as we're looking to get pregnant and frankly I did't feel comfortable doing it there. That said I have medical friends that have just moved back from the UK and i'm not hearing anything good about the cuts they're making there (it sounds like a disaster) but it doesn't have as much to do with universal healthcare as it does cultural or implementation issues. That said the US does have great early detection, that is something a lot of other countries should look into even if it does have it's own issues in a minority of cases (there is debate here about US style prostate cancer screening - which is the only significant 5 year survival rate difference between the countries - given the side effects of the "cure" are often worse than the untreated cancer given you can often live for decades untreated like my nextdoor neighbour.) |
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07-13-2012, 12:52 AM | #55 |
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These are the charts that matter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mortality_rate Does well here, just a bit better than Czech. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...th-from-cancer Yet we spend a third less than the US do on Health Care. Those share holder need paying. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of... )_per_capita And this is the problem. The US gets shitty health care for the money it costs. |