Share something good Obama has done so far?

[KillerK]

Let's hear it Obama lovers...

[DamianJ]

1) Not been republican

[DamageX]

Won the Nobel Prize? That HAS to be good, right?

[Tom_PM]

How about 29 straight months of private sector job growth?
Killed Osama Bin Laden?

No matter what people list, there's already massive spin and billions of dollars saying it's not true, or something someone else did, lol. Kinda pointless.

[DWB]

Well, that's easy. He... he... ah.... well, I think he did something. Oh yea, he bailed out the fat cat bankers. That was good, right? He won the Nobel prize for not doing ANYTHING. Doesn't get better than that.

This thread is racist!

[NaughtyRob]

And this..... I personally firmly believe it takes a president two terms to really get anything done in this day and age of red tape.

[wehateporn]

Don't be too harsh on the man, sometimes his teleprompter screws up

[Sly]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Don't be too harsh on the man, sometimes his teleprompter screws up

The greatest speaker of our time!

[DWB]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Killed Osama Bin Laden?

Sanction assassinations are always good. Even if it is for someone who was trained and funded by the CIA.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

No matter what people list, there's already massive spin and billions of dollars saying it's not true, or something someone else did, lol. Kinda pointless.

Yea, those extra billions in debt... total spin. Shame on us all.

[DamianJ]

http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/...y-20-2009.html

There's 192 things he has done, with citations.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by DWB

Sanction assassinations are always good. Even if it is for someone who was trained and funded by the CIA.



Yea, those extra billions in debt... total spin. Shame on us all.

[2MuchMark]

[Slappin Fish]

The President of the US is not the government, it's been generations since a President has done more than shake hands and smile for the cameras.

On the international stage though he represents America. In that respect Obama has managed to eliminate most of the animosity towards America in one fell swoop. Romney's disastrous tour abroad should remind people goodwill abroad isn't only for claps, it brings big money contracts, and the possibility to forward America's agenda without half the planet wanting it's distruction..

[seeandsee]

he is first non born american as presidente

[LAJ]

http://obamaachievements.org/list

Above all though... Bin Laden was executed under his watch. The guy actually responsible for 9-11 and what the previous limp dicked admin couldn't follow thru on (and didn't care).

[dantes]

weed is legal now

[Tom_PM]

Originally Posted by DWB

Sanction assassinations are always good. Even if it is for someone who was trained and funded by the CIA.



Yea, those extra billions in debt... total spin. Shame on us all.

Indeed it is total spin. Shame on some of us.

[Freaky_Akula]

He will close gitmo before the end of the first year of his presidency!

[Sly]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Indeed it is total spin. Shame on some of us.

One guy kills 10. The next guy kills 5.

Does that make the guy that kills five any less of a murderer?

And actually, your chart is full of spin. What DWB said is not incorrect, but your chart tries to down play the fact that it happened.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Indeed it is total spin. Shame on some of us.

How is Obama adding billions to the debt a spin? Actually, I am incorrect. He has added over $4 trillion. We're way past billions. The graph you posted has already been shown to be false on more than one fact checking sites.

What president spent more is totally irrelevant. The only thing that matters is how much debt there is, and right now, we have the most we've ever had. It's on his watch.

[Freaky_Akula]

He replaced the troops in Iraq with more expensive mercenaries.

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/...y-20-2009.html

There's 192 things he has done, with citations.

Skimming I found a few things that aren't correct there (For instance about Israel/Iran war)

So who knows what shit on that page actually is true, or wasn't put into action by Bush. (Example Credit Card reform act, was that in the works prior?)

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

And this..... I personally firmly believe it takes a president two terms to really get anything done in this day and age of red tape.

Right. Agreed. Especially since those filthy rat-bastard motherfuckers in the GOP have tried to sabotage the recovery. In Obama's second term they will NOT be able to stall progress for another 4 years.

Tell me; WHAT THE FUCK HAS THE GOP DONE TO GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK?

[The Porn Nerd]

He's gotten more black people on TV.

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula

He replaced the troops in Iraq with more expensive mercenaries.

WTF?? Got a link? I was under the impression he was ending Bush's dis-fucking-asterous and wildly expensive war.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

How about 29 straight months of private sector job growth?
Killed Osama Bin Laden?

No matter what people list, there's already massive spin and billions of dollars saying it's not true, or something someone else did, lol. Kinda pointless.

The 29 straight months is in spite of Obama.

Bin Laden...the fellow that cleans the washrooms at the pentagon could've made that decision.

[2012]

I <3 cheerios

[theking]

Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula

He replaced the troops in Iraq with more expensive mercenaries.

Pigshit.

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by DWB

It's on his watch.

Oh I see. So the previous administration had nothing to do with it? Two unfunded wars and big, juicy tax breaks for Thurston and Lovey?

Get real. Bill Clinton handed a strong nation over to W and Cheney - and they left us FUBAR! Now Rethuglicans whine that Obama isn't cleaning up their pile of elephant shit fast enough.

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by Minte

The 29 straight months is in spite of Obama.

Bin Laden...the fellow that cleans the washrooms at the pentagon could've made that decision.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! What an asshole. Negative things are all Obama's fault - positive things have nothing to do with him.

Hey, how come the fellow that cleans the washroom at the pentagon didn't make that decision during W's 8 fucking years???

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

he is first non born american as presidente

Grow up.

[Freaky_Akula]

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

WTF?? Got a link? I was under the impression he was ending Bush's dis-fucking-asterous and wildly expensive war.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...7B1M_blog.html

As American troops head out of Iraq, U.S. officials are being forced to bring in more private security contractors. The withdrawal of the remaining troops from Iraq - 33,000 at last count ? has caused U.S. officials to move quickly to fill a series of security gaps

https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/06/01-6

According to new statistics released by the Pentagon, with Barack Obama as commander in chief, there has been a 23% increase in the number of "Private Security Contractors" working for the Department of Defense in Iraq in the second quarter of 2009 and a 29% increase in Afghanistan

http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...rge/?mobile=nc

the one group that has seen demand explode since Obama became president is the number of private security contractors

http://www.thenation.com/blog/37877/...ary-force-iraq

The State Department is asking Congress to approve funds to more than double the number of private security contractors in Iraq with a State Department official testifying in June at a hearing of the Wartime Contracting Commission that the Department wants "between 6,000 and 7,000 security contractors." The Department also has asked the Pentagon for twenty-four Blackhawk helicopters, fifty Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected (MRAP) vehicles and other military equipment. "After the departure of U.S. Forces [from Iraq], we will continue to have a critical need for logistical and life support of a magnitude and scale of complexity that is unprecedented in the history of the Department of State," wrote Patrick Kennedy, under secretary of state for management, in an April letter to the Pentagon. "And to keep our people secure, Diplomatic Security requires certain items of equipment that are only available from the military." What is unfolding is the face of President Obama's scaled-down, rebranded mini-occupation of Iraq. Under the terms of the Status of Forces agreement, all US forces are supposed to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011. Using private forces is a backdoor way of continuing a substantial US presence under the cover of "diplomatic security."

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by Sly

The greatest speaker of our time!

You can tell a dumbass the minute they repeat the "teleprompter" meme.

They ALL use teleprompters. When that shitskid Sean Hannity goofs on our President for using a teleprompter - HE'S READING OFF A TELEPROMPTER!

And there will be no teleprompters during the debates, and President Obama is going to beat that little rich kid like a runaway sister wife.

[Tom_PM]

Originally Posted by DWB

What president spent more is totally irrelevant. The only thing that matters is how much debt there is, and right now, we have the most we've ever had. It's on his watch.

The population has grown too.. all under Obamas watch! That drizzler!

It's completely relevant to the "what has Obama done" premise. It's one of those little things that is carted out to make it seem that one president is evil incarnate, while with others it's necessary expenditures. Lets not be naive and pretend that it's not election cycle spin.

And naturally here comes other people saying anything Obama can legitimately take credit for was done by other people

What hasn't Obama done?
Carted his dog on his rooftop, lmfao.
Hidden money in offshore bank accounts. (lol?)

Uh oh, here comes more nonsense spin! Just call it what it is.

[GrantMercury]

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

[baddog]

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

WTF?? Got a link? I was under the impression he was ending Bush's dis-fucking-asterous and wildly expensive war.

Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit.

Seriously? I guess I gave you guys too much credit

http://digitaljournal.com/article/319803

After the U.S. troop drawdown in Iraq was completed in December, a new budget request by the Pentagon, called Post-Operation NEW DAWN (OND)/Iraq Activities (pdf), comes at a time when it has been reported there are no longer any U.S. troops stationed in Iraq. The new budget request likely includes a ?black? budget for special operations forces still conducting business there.
Last year, the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee released a report stating 5,500 private mercenaries will be used for protecting up to 17,000 civilians in Iraq, employed by the U.S. government.

[adult-help]

he saved you from Sarah Palin as a vice president. Think abut this for a moment until it sinks in..

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula

He replaced the troops in Iraq with more expensive mercenaries.

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

WTF?? Got a link? I was under the impression he was ending Bush's dis-fucking-asterous and wildly expensive war.

Right now, private security contractors are all over both of those nations. The pulled out most of the US troops and filled the place with mercenaries. The State Department is commanding over 5000 mercenaries.

The only thing that happened is a new phase of the "war" started and the American people are too dumb to pay attention to what is going on and believe everything the mainstream media tells them.

I don't have time to dig a ton of info on it (its out there if you want it), but here are the first ones I could grab for you.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011...-iraq-eternal/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...iers-jobs.html

Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit.

Pathfinder!

During the first four years of the war?the most recent available estimate?the U.S. spent as much as $10 billion on private security contractors

Now go burn a flag or something and keep pretending you served and that you're not Pathfinder.

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Oh I see. So the previous administration had nothing to do with it? Two unfunded wars and big, juicy tax breaks for Thurston and Lovey?

Get real. Bill Clinton handed a strong nation over to W and Cheney - and they left us FUBAR! Now Rethuglicans whine that Obama isn't cleaning up their pile of elephant shit fast enough.

Oh yea, the blame game again.

Doesn't matter. He had a choice. He could have decided that taking the medicine would be better. Instead he took the easy road. So it's in his lap now.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by DWB

How is Obama adding billions to the debt a spin? Actually, I am incorrect. He has added over $4 trillion. We're way past billions. The graph you posted has already been shown to be false on more than one fact checking sites.

What president spent more is totally irrelevant. The only thing that matters is how much debt there is, and right now, we have the most we've ever had. It's on his watch.

Price of Gold:

2000 = $279.11
8/2012= $1620.41

That chart is just spin -- the dollar has lost value.
Admittedly, the Gold values are distorted.

Maybe, the real range of value should be 2000 $400 and today $1,200 so divide the real debt values accordingly ... Then factor in the percentage of GNP and the population growth.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Indeed it is total spin. Shame on some of us.

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Right. Agreed. Especially since those filthy rat-bastard motherfuckers in the GOP have tried to sabotage the recovery. In Obama's second term they will NOT be able to stall progress for another 4 years.

Tell me; WHAT THE FUCK HAS THE GOP DONE TO GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK?

Obama supporters self pawn in this thread?

Obama can not take credit for the level of spending (every 5th grader knows the president suggests a budget, the congress creates the budget).

People say there has been X amount of job growth.

Someone posts an "obstructionist" meme.

I would like to thank the republican controlled congress for creating a budget that is less increase of spending than previous budgets. That obstructed Obama's plan to destroy the economy and set us back on the path for prosperity, despite the job killing bill that is Obamacare?

[Rochard]

I read a news article today from a main stream news site (I forget which) that polled Americans asking if they were better off today than they were before Obama, and the majority said they weren't. I'm surprised.

I did a post here on GFY documenting how bad things were when the recession hit, taking photos of construction projects that just stopped half way through - We had two condo complexes with half built shells and a restaurant where they build the shell but eventually tore it down. Our town was growing and growing quickly - we were one of the fastest growing cities over a ten year period - and suddenly everything just stopped.

My street alone has exactly twenty houses on it, and at the height of the recession exactly half of them were empty and our neighborhood was a ghost town. It was strange. Now all of the houses are occupied except for two, one because they divorced and the other because he decided to buy a larger house for a lot less on the other side of town.

My wife was out of work for nearly two years, and now she's been working full time for the past year. I'm doing well too. Everyone I know locally has jobs and is happy.

I'm sorry, it doesn't matter who was in office. The only solution for this problem is time, and that's a fact. Some of the things Obama did might have helped, or maybe not so much. But this also isn't a four or eight year problem. This will take us ten years to get back to "normal". And even then, we'll never be the same again. We've changed and we are scared it might happen again.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by adult-help

he saved you from Sarah Palin as a vice president. Think abut this for a moment until it sinks in..

What has Biden done?

Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm sorry, it doesn't matter who was in office.

Yes it does, and I agree wholeheartedly with those that say they are not better off than they were before Obama took office. I am not either. He is the first president since 1972 that I must say that about.

[Relentless]

Where he has succeeded so far:
- Kept the auto industry in business
- Repealed Dont Ask Dont Tell
- Got the tea party asshats to raise the debt ceiling and avoid America defaulting on our debts
- Shrank our military footprint in Iraq (slower than I'd have liked)
- Was willing to extend our reach into Pakistan, including the Bin Laden assault but even more importantly into a broader campaign along the afghan/pakistani border. He deserves a LOT of credit for zero terrorist attacks on US soil during his entire tenure so far.
- Improved Our relationships with most other industrialized nations (Hillary deserves a lot of credit for that as well)

Where he has failed miserably:
- GITMO is still open and the rule of law is still being ignored (there is NO excuse for this)
- Unemployment has remained absurdly high (due as much to the GOP as the Dems)
- He allowed his own party to bitch slap him and gave away a chance at single payer REAL health care reform
- Allowed gas prices to become an accelerant for inflation (gas need not be $4 per gallon right now)
- Failed to put teeth in energy regulation... still no arrests over the BP oil spill
- Allowed the Elizabeth Warren credit regulations to become watered down completely


Overall I'd give him a C- for his first four years. I'd give Clinton a B and George W Bush an F.
My expectation is that 4 more years of Obama will be a C+ at best, but Romney and Ryan is likely to be an F.
In short, his greatest accomplishment as President is that he has not been as bad as Romney would be.

It is shameful that Obama and Romney are the best two candidates for America to choose.
Citizens United is the real problem, not the Democrats or the Republicans... the people who own them both.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

[INDENT]Price of Gold:

2000 = $279.11
8/2012= $1620.41

That chart is just spin -- the dollar has lost value.
Admittedly, the Gold values are distorted.

Maybe, the real range of value should be 2000 $400 and today $1,200 so divide the real debt values accordingly ... Then factor in the percentage of GNP and the population growth.

Soon as QE3 happens, it's going up even more.

Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm sorry, it doesn't matter who was in office. The only solution for this problem is time, and that's a fact. Some of the things Obama did might have helped, or maybe not so much. But this also isn't a four or eight year problem. This will take us ten years to get back to "normal". And even then, we'll never be the same again. We've changed and we are scared it might happen again.

The main economic problems would have happened if Jesus himself was in office. So in that aspect, you are correct. However, how Obama reacted to the problem is what matters.

But I do agree that things will never be the same. And it will happen again, and it will be worse because they did not fix the root of the problem and borrowed and printed even more money. The next blow isn't going to be so easy to put another band-aid on. There won't be any more Government money to bail out companies and banks. So what should have happened already, will eventually happen. It's only a matter of time.

[theking]

Originally Posted by DWB

Right now, private security contractors are all over both of those nations. The pulled out most of the US troops and filled the place with mercenaries. The State Department is commanding over 5000 mercenaries.

The only thing that happened is a new phase of the "war" started and the American people are too dumb to pay attention to what is going on and believe everything the mainstream media tells them.

I don't have time to dig a ton of info on it (its out there if you want it), but here are the first ones I could grab for you.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011...-iraq-eternal/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...iers-jobs.html



Pathfinder!



Now go burn a flag or something and keep pretending you served and that you're not Pathfinder.



Oh yea, the blame game again.

Doesn't matter. He had a choice. He could have decided that taking the medicine would be better. Instead he took the easy road. So it's in his lap now.

You are a very ignorant person...and spread your ignorance in virtually every thread on this board...day and night.

We had about 160 thousand military personnel in Iraq many of which belonged to Combat Arms units. These forces have been withdrawn from Iraq. There has been additional private security personnel (private security has been in Iraq pretty much from the start of the occupation) hired to help protect US assets that had previously been protected by US military personnel. Private security such as "Black Water" type of security personnel are not Combat Arms units...they are lightly armed security personnel.

There is not 160 US "mercenaries" in Iraq/Afghanistan...at best they are a few thousand "Black Water" type security personnel.

Ignorant conspiracy type expat mother fuckers...such as yourself...spew out misinformation and exaggerations...pigshit in other words.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by DWB

Right now, private security contractors are all over both of those nations. The pulled out most of the US troops and filled the place with mercenaries.

They even left part of their equipment (helicopters, armored personnel carriers etc) behind for use by the PMCs.

Politics is all about perception. It's not about what you did, but about what you can get people to believe you did.

[Probono]

Obama is taking heat for problems that he inherited. He did some good things, not enough but better than the Bush years. THe Affordable healthcare act is better than nothing, not good enough. He has stimulated innovation with lots of grants, stimulated education, and most important has not driven us back into the dark ages.

Most Americans do not know the largest middle class tax cuts was by Obama by reducing FICA, (Social Security) taxes therefore increasing net paychecks of working people. He has never touted much of what he did.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by DWB

The main economic problems would have happened if Jesus himself was in office. So in that aspect, you are correct. However, how Obama reacted to the problem is what matters.

But we'll never know if he did good or bad. Would things have been better if McCain was in office and did things his way? Dunno - who knows? It would have been a completely circumstance if McCain was in office.

Originally Posted by DWB

But I do agree that things will never be the same. And it will happen again, and it will be worse because they did not fix the root of the problem and borrowed and printed even more money. The next blow isn't going to be so easy to put another band-aid on. There won't be any more Government money to bail out companies and banks. So what should have happened already, will eventually happen. It's only a matter of time.

My in-laws make damn good money, yet they live like paupers. It's very odd. They take their money and they tuck it away in various banking accounts. Last Christmas this came up - they finally spending money and upgrading their forty year old house - and my mother in law told us that she has a bad habit of not wanting to spend money because she lived through the depression, and she knows what it's like when it gets "really bad".

I wonder if our generation will see the same ten and twenty years from now.

[SmutHammer]

distroyed the health care system.

He is looking out for the worthless... lazy ass people that don't do anything to help this country, yeah, instead of cutting wealfare he chose to cut police, firemen, and military. That makes perfect sense!

everyone wants to bitch about tax breaks for the ritch. yet they supply jobs which bring in more taxes...

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

distroyed the health care system.

He is looking out for the worthless... lazy ass people that don't do anything to help this country, yeah, instead of cutting wealfare he chose to cut police, firemen, and military. That makes perfect sense!

Of course it does. The poor make up the majority of the voters and, despite their lesser financial worth, they still get one vote per person.