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Old 09-06-2012, 06:24 AM   #1
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Why Does Obama get credit for killing Osama bin Laden?

Are the Democrats so desperate they base their whole election on low income families and actually try and take credit for something Bush put into place? The US Military should be the only ones getting credit for this. What did Obama have to do with it?
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:52 AM   #2
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Ummm, Obama had about 1000 times more to do with it than Bush did
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Because Obama killed Osama Bin Laden.

George W. Bush said Osama Bin Laden wasn't very important and even joked about pretending to look for him at a state dinner.

Everyone on the planet is aware of these facts.
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As commander in chief he makes the final decision. He gets all of the blame and all of the credit for any military action. It's a fairly simple explanation.
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Are the Democrats so desperate they base their whole election on low income families and actually try and take credit for something Bush put into place? The US Military should be the only ones getting credit for this. What did Obama have to do with it?
President Obama is commander in chief of the US Military. You seriously think Bush put anything into place to go after Bin Laden? Obama used the same miliatary Bush had at his disposal. The difference is Obama said go for it, Bush didn't.
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I've heard that argument that Bush put it "in place"

I don't see how that could be at all.

The prisoners in Guantanamo have been there for over 10 years. They have NO idea who, what, or where anything in Al Qaeda is anymore (if they ever did).

Saying Bush "put it in place"...you might as well say George Washington did.

The CIA and military FINALLY found him 10 years after the fact. Pretty lame if you ask me...especially when you realize that we went to war with Afghanistan because the Mullahs wouldn't turn him over. And we supposedly have all this high tech abilities and spend trillions on military...

And it turns out he was never anywhere we thought. He was always in a giant house in Pakistan. lol

But no...Bush had nothing to do with that in my opinion. That one belongs to Obama.
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I'm trying to figure out who's the bigger fool in this thread, the OP, or Johnny. Guess I'll go with Ed Hammer on this one.
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Are the Democrats so desperate they base their whole election on low income families and actually try and take credit for something Bush put into place? The US Military should be the only ones getting credit for this. What did Obama have to do with it?

Republicans cannot come up with one good thing they have done for the country in the past 20 years so they resort to taking credit for what they DIDN'T do.



"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
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And you BELIEVE this nonsense? 10 years to find a guy who stood out like a sore thumb? He was dead in 2001. It's already been confirmed by insiders
"Insiders". Dude...seriously? Unless you were there personally, you don't know shit. Stop pretending that you have some kind of knowledge you don't have.
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As commander in chief he makes the final decision. He gets all of the blame and all of the credit for any military action. It's a fairly simple explanation.
I can go along with that, But using it to gain votes? Why not use something he actually had his hands involved in? Seems desperate to hear re-elect Obama "He killed Osama....
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This is like debating whether a murderer is going to heaven or hell if he repents before he dies

And yet people will get into heated exchanges debating which slave master took credit for "killing" a guy who died in 2001 from natural causes
You do realize that if there was no goverment, the kid down the street would beat the hell out of you and take everything you have right?
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Because when it comes to that, he pretty much just showed up for, it was that douche bag bushes operation
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Are the Democrats so desperate they base their whole election on low income families and actually try and take credit for something Bush put into place? The US Military should be the only ones getting credit for this. What did Obama have to do with it?
It's only fair, after all, Obama is getting credit for the out of control deficit when it was really Bush who started the ball rolling with that.
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What did Bin Laden do exactly?
Didn't give these webmasters a reach around.
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That makes no sense whatsoever
COME ON!

the point they are making is that without a government people are free to do whatever they please... and it pleases many of them to act out in violent, anti-social ways that could deprive you of life and property. YES, that shit happens now but the force of law prevents many people from acting on their darker impulses. Without that force of law and the threat of punishment for acting outside of societal norms and mores we would have chaos and anarchy... and NO, that would NOT be a good thing. It is common sense and the reason why mankind has had some form of government ever since we stopped being hunter/gatherers and settled into communities.


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It always amazes me that people need "irrefutable proof" when it comes to questioning the government yet here we have absolutely NO proof that Bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11 (which he didn't) and absolutely NO proof that he was killed in Pakistan last year....but that somehow doesn't count and it's the truth because high power "officials" say so!!
Wait. You mean the government doesn't know what is best for me?!
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If people stop abusing their children then they won't act violently. Anyone who thinks that another person does or does not do something violently based upon the government is a fucking moron
Get out more and interact with a wider variety of people and you will witness first hand how well the force of law protects you
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I can go along with that, But using it to gain votes? Why not use something he actually had his hands involved in? Seems desperate to hear re-elect Obama "He killed Osama....
And if Osama was still alive... you don't think the Republicans would be reminding us of as much on a daily basis?

Presidents get the blame or the credit for everything. Always been that way, always will be that way.
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It's only fair, after all, Obama is getting credit for the out of control deficit when it was really Bush who started the ball rolling with that.
So your saying Obama should take credit for the deficit and stop blaming that on Bush?

would only be fair right?
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And if Osama was still alive... you don't think the Republicans would be reminding us of as much on a daily basis?

Presidents get the blame or the credit for everything. Always been that way, always will be that way.
I just think is seems desperate to use it for election purposes is all..
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He died in 2001

Stop buying into the propaganda and lies
Since you seem to know the answer why don't you educate all us sheep then.
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If Osama had been killed during the Bush administration the Dems would be screaming about how Bush is a war criminal for illegally entering a country and assassinating a man without trial.
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If Osama had been killed during the Bush administration the Dems would be screaming about how Bush is a war criminal for illegally entering a country and assassinating a man without trial.
Bin laden???? Lmao umm no I don't think so.
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War Criminal, Worst President in History, and semi-retarded imbecile GW had this to say:



Remember, this is just SIX MONTHS after 9/11. In response to a reporters question, President Bush tells the world that he is "truly not that concerned" with catching the man who murdered 3,000 Americans just six months and two days earlier because "we've marginalized him."
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Are the Democrats so desperate they base their whole election on low income families and actually try and take credit for something Bush put into place? The US Military should be the only ones getting credit for this. What did Obama have to do with it?
Obama was the one who put everything on the line. If Bin Laden wasn't there or got away, the US would have staged armed intrusion into a foreign country. You can debate the legalities of the raid until your blue in the face, but the truth is if this went south there is a good chance Obama would have been removed from office. At the very least, he would have no chance in winning the next election? Remember Jimmy Carter?

The President of the United States is the commander in chief of the armed forces. He gets all of the credit when things go bad, and takes all of the heat when we fail.
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Right, because we really need a strong leader to lead us!

The elections are SO important! We get to choose which slave master rules us and which gang of criminals gets to boss us around!


Would you please take your fucking meds??
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I can go along with that, But using it to gain votes? Why not use something he actually had his hands involved in? Seems desperate to hear re-elect Obama "He killed Osama....
President Obama was very "hands on" involved...as Osama would not be dead without him having ordered the military to act.
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50 THINKING POINTS ALERTs

This is a new meme circulating through the conservo-sphere. Take any credit away from the black guy and shift it on to the troops. As parroted here...
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Are the Democrats so desperate they base their whole election on low income families and actually try and take credit for something Bush put into place? The US Military should be the only ones getting credit for this. What did Obama have to do with it?


Are you serious? He's the Commander In Chief.

Holy fuck. You know you're a Republican when you give Bush the credit for killing OBL, and Obama the blame for the economy.

Get real.
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50 THINKING POINTS ALERTs

This is a new meme circulating through the conservo-sphere. Take any credit away from the black guy and shift it on to the troops. As parroted here...


Right. It wasn't GWB's fault for invading Iraq, either. Bush didn't make that call. The troops decided to do it on their own.

The GOP is so shameless and desperate.
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Exactly. Where was GWB at the RNC? Nowhere. He wasn't even mentioned. 8 years and nothing but misery for the American people. 4 years later they want the power back so they can fuck us some more, and put even more cash into their pockets. Fuck that.

Obama 2012.
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War Criminal, Worst President in History, and semi-retarded imbecile GW had this to say:



Remember, this is just SIX MONTHS after 9/11. In response to a reporters question, President Bush tells the world that he is "truly not that concerned" with catching the man who murdered 3,000 Americans just six months and two days earlier because "we've marginalized him."
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Your really going to try and turn this racist? how pathetic....
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Exactly. Where was GWB at the RNC? Nowhere. He wasn't even mentioned. 8 years and nothing but misery for the American people. 4 years later they want the power back so they can fuck us some more, and put even more cash into their pockets. Fuck that.

Obama 2012.

Bill Clinton, the best President this country has ever known, put it best last night....


In Tampa, the Republican argument against the president's
re- election was actually pretty simple, pretty snappy. It went
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cleaned it up fast enough, so fire him and put us back in.''
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Show me proof that he was killed in 2012

We have a guy who WORKED WITH BIN LADEN who has been saying for the last 10 years that he was already dead.
OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO SAY HE IS DEAD. It allows him to keep working and to keep drones off of his ass.

HOW FUCKING HARD IS THAT TO GET?

Ever hear of this guy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli
He advocated that faking your death was the best way to plot against an enemy.

Why is it so hard for the conspiracy nuts to get that - of course Osama would want people to think he was dead.

al-Zarqawi did the same fucking thing!!! His closest followers proclaimed that he was dead 2 years before he actually died!!!
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Old 09-06-2012, 03:27 PM   #45
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because jews are peaceful, oh wait
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OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO SAY HE IS DEAD. It allows him to keep working and to keep drones off of his ass.

HOW FUCKING HARD IS THAT TO GET?

Ever hear of this guy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli
He advocated that faking your death was the best way to plot against an enemy.

Why is it so hard for the conspiracy nuts to get that - of course Osama would want people to think he was dead.

al-Zarqawi did the same fucking thing!!! His closest followers proclaimed that he was dead 2 years before he actually died!!!
time to step away from the innernets
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If Osama had been killed during the Bush administration the Dems would be screaming about how Bush is a war criminal for illegally entering a country and assassinating a man without trial.
ahh no, we'd be at war with pakistan
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time to step away from the innernets
Just tired of idiots.
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Thanks, I did not know that. Good find
Come on Ed, where's the love? When I corrected you (with documented facts) on other falsehoods you were parroting (obama tripled the debt, cut the military budget to name two), I didn't get any thanks

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Your really going to try and turn this racist? how pathetic....
Not at you, Ed. Just want to be 100% clear about that. But if you don't think racism is playing a big part in the extreme vitriol coming from the far right, then you're nuts. It's not like the far right has historically had great relations with blacks LOL.

Mainly, i was pointing out that you're just parroting another right-wing talking point, facts be damned. You know, facts like the commander in chief had to give the go order.
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