Google EMD algo update - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

nickutis · 09-30-2012, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

Bullshit

It's no bullshit .. Check SERPs

if you don't have your KW in domain name, that means you actually want to rank for that KW . It's a new google logic

Denny · 09-30-2012, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis

It's no bullshit .. Check SERPs

if you don't have your KW in domain name, that means you actually want to rank for that KW . It's a new google logic

Are there any EMDs for that KW with a good backlink profile and quality content?

You still can benefit from EDMs but you need a good backlink profile and quality content.

An EMD, two incoming links and 10 shitty blog posts isn't enough for TOP10 ranking anymore.

nickutis · 09-30-2012, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

Are there any EMDs for that KW with a good backlink profile and quality content?

You still can benefit from EDMs but you need a good backlink profile and quality content.

An EMD, two incoming links and 10 shitty blog posts isn't enough for TOP10 ranking anymore.

official site for this girl is EMD

Dirty F · 09-30-2012, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis

to type "gfy.com" and press enter takes you 2 seconds
to type "gfy" and press enter takes you 1 second

Why do you forget to mention you then have to click the url with your mouse?

Dirty F · 09-30-2012, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis

It's no bullshit .. Check SERPs

if you don't have your KW in domain name, that means you actually want to rank for that KW . It's a new google logic

This shit is ridiculous.

Denny · 09-30-2012, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis

official site for this girl is EMD

Well, but its backlink profile doesn't look good at all.

+ According to SEMrush it never had stable traffic from Google for its KW.

nickutis · 09-30-2012, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Why do you forget to mention you then have to click the url with your mouse?

when you go directly to gfy.com , you have to click on "Fucking around & program discussion" link

when you used to search for gfy, you click on the direct sitelink to "Fucking around & program discussion".

So it requires you same amount of clicks to reach this forum, but less time to type

..

Anyway I find it stupid from google to penalize EMD. Bing has no problems understanding what surfers are searching for

Slappin Fish · 09-30-2012, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

This shit is ridiculous.

I have a site that actually gained traffic, it ranks for competitive KWs but doesn't rank for it's own name anymore

For it's own low competition name it's on page 3 outranked by blogspot, scrappers, etc.

nickutis · 09-30-2012, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

Well, but its backlink profile doesn't look good at all.

+ According to SEMrush it never had stable traffic from Google for its KW.

That's true.. But which you think is higher quality site? Dailymotion or official girls site?

Shouldn't google be able to determine it on its own? Bing has no problems determining that..

Dirty F · 09-30-2012, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

I have a site that actually gained traffic, it ranks for competitive KWs but doesn't rank for it's own name anymore

For it's own low competition name it's on page 3 outranked by blogspot, scrappers, etc.

What the hell were they thinking?

mce · 09-30-2012, 06:12 AM

Some funky positive traffic on some of my blogs lately. Gotta give it a few more days to settle down though.

Denny · 09-30-2012, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis

That's true.. But which you think is higher quality site? Dailymotion or official girls site?

Shouldn't google be able to determine it on its own? Bing has no problems determining that..

Well, but those official girls sites are mostly pay-sites. Surfers don't want to pay for porn (most of them) and Google knows that. Anyway, it would rank better with a better link profile.

Slappin Fish · 09-30-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

Well, but those official girls sites are mostly pay-sites. Surfers don't want to pay for porn (most of them) and Google knows that. Anyway, it would rank better with a better link profile.

If they are searching for an EMD they might be interested in paying, or at least taking a look, if they weren't they would add "free" "tube" to their search.

Don't want to go in too much detail but the site I mentioned before is outranked for the domain name by a ton of spammy youtube links and URL's that go something like this http://oy3i.trt4g.com/track/KEYWORD.html

Brujah · 09-30-2012, 06:47 AM

Google needs better competition.

Denny · 09-30-2012, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

If they are searching for an EMD they might be interested in paying, or at least taking a look, if they weren't they would add "free" "tube" to their search.

That's just your opinion.

...and If they search for an EMD they usually get it in #1.

Slappin Fish · 09-30-2012, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

That's just your opinion.

So you are saying they are more interested in seeing a nonsensical spinned article complete gibberish than the official site riiiiight

Denny · 09-30-2012, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

So you are saying they are more interested in seeing a nonsensical spinned article complete gibberish than the official site riiiiight

Not sure if you even know what an EMD is. If you search for an EMD it should always rank #1 unless it's penalized or has no incoming links.

mineistaken · 09-30-2012, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

That's just your opinion.

...and If they search for an EMD they usually get it in #1.

Thats common sense, if you enter "model name" you should see official site at least on the first page. Otherwise it makes no sense. But to be honest I think that they do not check all keywords manually - if they are pornstar name or just some not branded EMD keyword.

Slappin Fish · 09-30-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

Not sure if you even know what an EMD is. If you search for an EMD it should always rank #1 unless it's penalized or has no incoming links.

Did you not bother reading the thread title or are you thick?

I'll help you out "Google EMD ALGO UPDATE". Since the 29th EMDs are being penalized, not just losing their advantage but actually penalized, it's what I'm seeing and it is what every webmaster is reporting in thousands of posts around forums. Sure if an EMD has tons more inbound links than the competition it will keep the top spot but that is now in spite of it's name. With equal back link EMDs now rank lower than non-EMDs. Get it?

Denny · 09-30-2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Did you not bother reading the thread title or are you thick?

I'll help you out "Google EMD ALGO UPDATE". Since the 29th EMDs are being penalized, not just losing their advantage but actually penalized, it's what I'm seeing and it is what every webmaster is reporting in thousands of posts around forums. Sure if an EMD has tons more inbound links than the competition it will keep the top spot but that is now in spite of it's name. With equal back link EMDs now rank lower than non-EMDs. Get it?

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

If they are searching for an EMD they might be interested in paying, or at least taking a look, if they weren't they would add "free" "tube" to their search.

EMD=modelname.tld

Denny · 09-30-2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Did you not bother reading the thread title or are you thick?

I'll help you out "Google EMD ALGO UPDATE". Since the 29th EMDs are being penalized, not just losing their advantage but actually penalized, it's what I'm seeing and it is what every webmaster is reporting in thousands of posts around forums. Sure if an EMD has tons more inbound links than the competition it will keep the top spot but that is now in spite of it's name. With equal back link EMDs now rank lower than non-EMDs. Get it?

That's just not true. There is no way Google would penalize an EMD just becaus it's EMD.

Slappin Fish · 09-30-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

That's just not true. There is no way Google would penalize an EMD just becaus it's EMD.

From Matt Cutt's blog : https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/251789327691042816

Every single serious webmaster forum has posters seeing EMD's penalized.

But if you say it ain't so Denny I'll go with you, you are the only one who knows what he is talking about

e-god · 09-30-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

???

gofuckyourself.com redirects to gfy.com

Google should react to 301 redirect and pass the rankings.

Denny · 09-30-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

From Matt Cutt's blog : https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/251789327691042816

Every single serious webmaster forum has posters seeing EMD's penalized.

But if you say it ain't so Denny I'll go with you, you are the only one who knows what he is talking about

Maybe we read diff. WM forums... many WMs feel they have quality original content and a good backlink profile. In fact, their backlink profile sucks (same money anchors etc.).

My EMDs survived, except two new ones, and I have to admit they have barely any incoming links to them. So far it seems I would benefit from this update (traffic is up) and there are many webmasters reporting the same.

e-god · 09-30-2012, 08:46 AM

The thing is that this algo tweak is not done yet, it slammed low quality EMDs but some got hit by mistake, so probably there will be another tweak soon after googlers will process the feedback of errors.

@Denny I agree with you about quality and link profile stuff. This update means that it won't be that easy to rank with good EMD domain only.

teeheiman · 09-30-2012, 09:52 AM

Trying to figure out why one of our sites (amateurporn.net) was hit so hard. We use to be #1 for "amateur porn" and now it cant be found.

Its a very competitive term, and even with this particular EMD it took us almost 2 years to rank it in google.

With high competition terms, its not that easy to rank .net EMDs high. With low volume EMDs I can get it to rank in a week.

Google shouldn't categorize both of these sites together with this update

I am hoping google will tweak a few things...

mineistaken · 09-30-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by e-god

This update means that it won't be that easy to rank with good EMD domain only.

To be honest I do not think it was easy. I always ranked super easy for EMD keywords on yahoo/bing and I was not even in top30 on google. Most of my EMD's were #1 spots on bing and deep deep under on google.

baddog · 09-30-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis

http://www.google.com/search?q=gofuckyourself

That's how I used to access GFY! Well no more! GFY works on gofuckyourself keyword and should be punished!!

Might have something to do with the fact that gofuckyourself.com is not the domain any more.

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Originally Posted by nickutis

to type "gfy.com" and press enter takes you 2 seconds
to type "gfy" and press enter takes you 1 second

I don't know about you but I prefer spending that saved second on something else!

Except that just takes you to a SE, an additional step

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Originally Posted by nickutis

It's no bullshit .. Check SERPs

if you don't have your KW in domain name, that means you actually want to rank for that KW . It's a new google logic

jeez . . . yeah, you are right. Let your domains expire. I have lots that would not be EMDs if you want to buy some.

digitalfantasies · 09-30-2012, 11:52 AM

why would g0ogle do that? An EMD usually is exactly what the surfer is looking for...

is it because G0ogle likes to fuck me up the ass?

baddog · 09-30-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by digitalfantasies

why would g0ogle do that? An EMD usually is exactly what the surfer is looking for...

is it because G0ogle likes to fuck me up the ass?

Don't believe everything you read on GFY

Dirty F · 09-30-2012, 12:09 PM

why would g0ogle do that? An EMD usually is exactly what the surfer is looking for...

is it because G0ogle likes to fuck me up the ass?

Why do you type Google like that?

Django · 09-30-2012, 01:28 PM

I type: gfy forum

davethedope · 09-30-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by teeheiman

Trying to figure out why one of our sites (amateurporn.net) was hit so hard. We use to be #1 for "amateur porn" and now it cant be found.

Its a very competitive term, and even with this particular EMD it took us almost 2 years to rank it in google.

With high competition terms, its not that easy to rank .net EMDs high. With low volume EMDs I can get it to rank in a week.

Google shouldn't categorize both of these sites together with this update

I am hoping google will tweak a few things...

you're whole network is emd

teeheiman · 09-30-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by davethedope

you're whole network is emd

Yes, we got hit hard...

John. · 09-30-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by teeheiman

Yes, we got hit hard...

Any plan of attack yet for getting back up in the serps?

Usually with these updates it takes a 7-10 days for things to smooth out afterwards, so you never know you might get lucky and see some kind of improvement. Did you see much effect from panda/penguin updates before this?

mce · 09-30-2012, 05:06 PM

another blow to thin sites

teeheiman · 09-30-2012, 08:32 PM

Yes, we did great in the past updates. First time our sites have ever been hit, and its not even content/website related!

But whats very unusual, a few of our non EMD sites got hit too.

We will be adjusting a few things in the next coming weeks, but its starting to look like all google cares about again is a shit tone of spammy links!

DamageX · 09-30-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by teeheiman

Yes, we got hit hard...

That's gotta hurt big time...

mychemicalromance · 09-30-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

I dont think so, This is from a blog less than 2 month old with no inbound links you can see a traffic spike yesterday and today.

hahaha fail

AllAboutCams · 09-30-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mychemicalromance

hahaha fail

stupid cunt

livesexoncams · 10-01-2012, 01:56 AM

Any one else got hit also in non-emd sites? This is my case and also this is reported by other folks, on mainstream seo forums. My guess is that google devaluated links coming from low-quality sites.

roly · 10-03-2012, 09:11 AM

so they've not just removed any advantage of an emd, they've applied a penalty for it? that's just stupid, there's already been loads of algo changes to take into account spam, poor quality/dupe content, backlinks etc. if the sites poor and not relevant they can determine that from bounce rate and time on site etc. just because it?s an emd doesn't make it a shitty site and not relevant usually it?s the reverse.

this penalty was completely unnecessary and i think its just to push more people into using adsense. it would be interesting to see if there's any correlation between these algo changes and an increase in their adsense revenue.

baddog · 10-03-2012, 10:01 AM

What makes you think for one second that they removed "any advantage of an emd?" Because you read it on GFY?

AllAboutCams · 10-03-2012, 10:09 AM

anyone seen a jump in traffic

baddog · 10-03-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

anyone seen a jump in traffic

Still early, but I have noticed better SERPs; just not sure I want to attribute it to the EMD update. Could be coincidental.

roly · 10-03-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

What makes you think for one second that they removed "any advantage of an emd?" Because you read it on GFY?

you can read about on every webmaster/seo forum and from my own experience as well that its had a huge negative impact.

AllAboutCams · 10-03-2012, 10:34 AM

This is like the facebook private message joke you see one person post it and everyone has it

roly · 10-03-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

This is like the facebook private message joke you see one person post it and everyone has it

what are you wittering on about? matt cutts has confirmed it, just because it hasn't affected you doesn't mean its not true.

if you search google for "all about cams" "allaboutcams" and even allaboutcams.com you're no where to be found lol, so either you've been affected too or were never ranking anyway.

baddog · 10-03-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by roly

what are you wittering on about? matt cutts has confirmed it, .

Well, if Matt said it, it must be true . . . . gotta link?

Yo Adrian · 10-03-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by digitalfantasies

why would g0ogle do that? An EMD usually is exactly what the surfer is looking for...

is it because G0ogle likes to fuck me up the ass?

EMD's are highy relative but not necessarily valuable sources of content. I know of a ton of EMD's that are just banner farms. And mainstreamers crank out longtail EMD's like no tomorrow.. all stuffed with spun content, etc.

I'm personally leaning toward the opinion that this isn't an EMD penalty as much as it's just a removal of the natural boost that used to be given to them.

Strong EMD's are being left alone while weak ones are losing their rank.. it would make sense that this is because the bonus-for-being-relative thing was yanked.

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roly Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,844	so they've not just removed any advantage of an emd, they've applied a penalty for it? that's just stupid, there's already been loads of algo changes to take into account spam, poor quality/dupe content, backlinks etc. if the sites poor and not relevant they can determine that from bounce rate and time on site etc. just because it?s an emd doesn't make it a shitty site and not relevant usually it?s the reverse. this penalty was completely unnecessary and i think its just to push more people into using adsense. it would be interesting to see if there's any correlation between these algo changes and an increase in their adsense revenue.

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