Drop the Skinny on Buying Cam Traffic - GoFuckYourself.com

srockhard · 10-21-2012, 05:44 PM

I've gone through many threads trying to figure out where to start as far as buying webcam traffic. Seems like lots of you are trying Plug Rush and a few other traffic sites but one thing that everyone seems to have in common is saying that it takes a long time to convert and that it requires "buckets of patience" when using purchased traffic. Does anyone know why? Can you show some stats? Explain your experience or even give your estimates of investing $1000, $5000 or $10,000 into buying webcam traffic.

AllAboutCams · 10-21-2012, 05:57 PM

Plugrush is defiantly the best. The way i found this out was by buying lots of traffic from different places and different types of traffic this also costs a lot of money. People buy credits all the time i have people that signed up in FEB and have only started to buy now. Nobody can give you a estimate of investing $1000 because impossible to guess what each individual person will buy.

srockhard · 10-21-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

Plugrush is defiantly the best

Thanks for the great explanation. I think I gathered that from your other posts when I searched through the other threads.

ErectMedia · 10-21-2012, 06:13 PM

Important to use a cam company or white label company that allows url tracking. This way you can buy traffic from multiple sources and measure sign ups/sales per traffic source. After spending money all over town analytics combined with url tracking will show you which sources are working and which need to be cut.

Personally "clicked" traffic has worked the best for me and slightly over 38% of my cam income this year has come from 1 broker. Too many variables, what cam company, are you geo filtering traffic buys, are you buying clicked, popunder, skimmed etc... so one persons advice wont hold true as a blueprint unless your using the same cam program and copying my every move.

Patience part comes from quite a few visitors are already members helped from quite a few tubes popping popunders. May take longer to land a good cam spender but you can usually make it up in rev share which is the reason so many offer high PPS.

Best advice I can give ya...

1)Track all traffic buys whether brokers/individual sites and adjust the budget over time to what is working
2)Geo target buys to whatever countries the cam company can bill
3)If you are doing a white label get a good domain name and a good logo, if the domain name sucks or the logo looks like shit you are better off sending straight to the sponsor as you need to instill confidence with a white label.

ErectMedia · 10-21-2012, 06:37 PM

if the one in your sig is yours then track each traffic buy like...

http://www.ipartychat.com/?AFNO=1-1 (Broker 1)
http://www.ipartychat.com/?AFNO=1-2 (Broker 2)
http://www.ipartychat.com/?AFNO=1-3 (Broker 3)

just keep increasing the number after "-" as all sign ups/sales will then seperate in stats

srockhard · 10-21-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia

if the one in your sig is yours then track each traffic buy like...

http://www.ipartychat.com/?AFNO=1-1 (Broker 1)
http://www.ipartychat.com/?AFNO=1-2 (Broker 2)
http://www.ipartychat.com/?AFNO=1-3 (Broker 3)

just keep increasing the number after "-" as all sign ups/sales will then seperate in stats

I understand. Do you also monitor closely with Google Analytics "Vistor Flow" ?? As far as the geo tracking goes?

ErectMedia · 10-21-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by srockhard

I understand. Do you also monitor closely with Google Analytics "Vistor Flow" ?? As far as the geo tracking goes?

When I started I monitored everything, now due to having so much adult/mainstream shit developed and continually adding more sites I only analyze analytics 1-4 times a month as I have quite a few accounts so takes a while. I do only buy traffic from high quality countries though across the board regardless of the broker so generally all my sites adult/mainstream are 90%+ high quality more likely to convert visitors as my goal is always quality over quantity.

EriktheRabbit · 10-21-2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by srockhard

I've gone through many threads trying to figure out where to start as far as buying webcam traffic. Seems like lots of you are trying Plug Rush and a few other traffic sites but one thing that everyone seems to have in common is saying that it takes a long time to convert and that it requires "buckets of patience" when using purchased traffic. Does anyone know why? Can you show some stats? Explain your experience or even give your estimates of investing $1000, $5000 or $10,000 into buying webcam traffic.

Create your own traffic through your own work. If the traffic you are buying is worth anything it would not be sold.

Axel_Crak · 10-21-2012, 07:15 PM

A good revshare maybe the best long term...

It takes time to make money, some surfers browse for free for many months/years before spend money

but patience pays, many cams sites user spend $$$ for years... so at the end you will earn more..

So If you need to buy your traffic, revhsare its not the best at beginning, you will probably loose 80-90% of your spending

My reccomandation is to use/test differents PPL programs to see how your traffic does, and wich programs make more leads/money .

After a while you can switch to revshare if you know your stats and you have the cashflow to afford some lost short/mid term

We bought few millions of dollars in traffic as affilates, so i think you can trust my words ;)

PS: Im not a big fan of PPS
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TheSquealer · 10-21-2012, 07:16 PM

Buying traffic is a skill. It's a science. There are no secrets, there is only trial and error and constant testing and lessons that were learned the hard way and at great expense. You have to become good at testing. You have to understand testing. You have to understand every nuance of the traffic source, how it behaves, how traffic quality changes and fluctuates, you have to understand the user, your offers, you have to test constantly etc etc etc etc.

You are trying to buy traffic to something that is notoriously difficult to convert. This is going to end in tears for you without a doubt. I would start somewhere else, with something easier to convert where you get some meaningful data to look at, tweak, test and learn - CPA stuff or free/email joins or whatever.

Axel_Crak · 10-21-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EriktheRabbit

If the traffic you are buying is worth anything it would not be sold.

Wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. This is completely wrong

Maybe i didnt understand your comment right, if its the case sorry, if not let me tell you that:

-We buy over a x xxx xxx of ads (banner/pop) per month as affiliates and thats our main revenue.

-Everything is for sale, so if you earn 1000$ per month with your traffic, with not try to sell +1000$

- Lot of webmasters prefer to sell instead of try to convert

- The value of the traffic depends on your ability to convert

- anyway i could tell you many more example and facts but i think i dont need to

But yes traffic is getting more and more expensive, and deals are pretty rare... its not an easy thing to do

AllAboutCams · 10-21-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Axel_Crak

Wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. This is completely wrong

Maybe i didnt understand your comment right, if its the case sorry, if not let me tell you that:

-We buy over a x xxx xxx of ads (banner/pop) per month as affiliates and thats our main revenue.

-Everything is for sale, so if you earn 1000$ per month with your traffic, with not try to sell +1000$

- Lot of webmasters prefer to sell instead of try to convert

- The value of the traffic depends on your ability to convert

- anyway i could tell you many more example and facts but i think i dont need to

But yes traffic is getting more and more expensive, and deals are pretty rare... its not an easy thing to do

do you only buy banner/pop as i have seen some good results with blind

srockhard · 10-21-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You are trying to buy traffic to something that is notoriously difficult to convert. This is going to end in tears for you without a doubt. I would start somewhere else, with something easier to convert where you get some meaningful data to look at, tweak, test and learn - CPA stuff or free/email joins or whatever.

My main white label is iPartyChat but I am not looking to buy any traffic for this as I push traffic in other ways. I have a handful of other white labels that I am wanting to test the waters of purchasing traffic. I think I understand the patience a little better now and I appreciate everyones feedback here.

Axel_Crak · 10-21-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Buying traffic is a skill. It's a science. There are no secrets, there is only trial and error and constant testing and lessons that were learned the hard way and at great expense. You have to become good at testing. You have to understand testing. You have to understand every nuance of the traffic source, how it behaves, how traffic quality changes and fluctuates, you have to understand the user, your offers, you have to test constantly etc etc etc etc.

You are trying to buy traffic to something that is notoriously difficult to convert. This is going to end in tears for you without a doubt. I would start somewhere else, with something easier to convert where you get some meaningful data to look at, tweak, test and learn - CPA stuff or free/email joins or whatever.

100% Agree

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

do you only buy banner/pop as i have seen some good results with blind

mostly banner/pop

what do you mean by blind , im not sure ,,,

AllAboutCams · 10-21-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Axel_Crak

100% Agree

mostly banner/pop

what do you mean by blind , im not sure ,,,

Blind traffic means you will receive clicked traffic from random ads shown (Thats what it says on plugrush) all it is is Skimmed

Axel_Crak · 10-21-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

Blind traffic means you will receive clicked traffic from random ads shown (Thats what it says on plugrush) all it is is Skimmed

ok ya. we are doing some of that but not that much and it does ok with products like exposwedwebcams and punishtube
the problem for us on plugrush is not the ROI but the lack of volume
but for test and small campaigns/webmasters its a good place

ErectMedia · 10-22-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EriktheRabbit

Create your own traffic through your own work. If the traffic you are buying is worth anything it would not be sold.

I agree some paid traffic is shit wouldn't go as far as saying all of it is bad just takes patience, skill and a few wasted dollars to figure out what works.

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Buying traffic is a skill. It's a science. There are no secrets, there is only trial and error and constant testing and lessons that were learned the hard way and at great expense. You have to become good at testing. You have to understand testing. You have to understand every nuance of the traffic source, how it behaves, how traffic quality changes and fluctuates, you have to understand the user, your offers, you have to test constantly etc etc etc etc.

spot on

AllAboutCams · 10-22-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia

I agree some paid traffic is shit wouldn't go as far as saying all of it is bad just takes patience, skill and a few wasted dollars to figure out what works.

spot on

How do you decide who to use with juicyads i have tried a few times but never seem to get the right results

ErectMedia · 10-22-2012, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

How do you decide who to use with juicyads i have tried a few times but never seem to get the right results

combo of...

1)relevant content to what you are promoting
2)majority of traffic being from high quality countries as you can see they color code those countries traffic "green"
3)quantity of traffic helps as well assuming you stick to #2

mychemicalromance · 10-22-2012, 09:14 PM

some good advices on this thread. at least some people on this site still care about making money.

GonZo · 10-22-2012, 09:42 PM

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10-21-2012, 05:44 PM	#1
srockhard Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: PDXXX Posts: 1,976	Drop the Skinny on Buying Cam Traffic I've gone through many threads trying to figure out where to start as far as buying webcam traffic. Seems like lots of you are trying Plug Rush and a few other traffic sites but one thing that everyone seems to have in common is saying that it takes a long time to convert and that it requires "buckets of patience" when using purchased traffic. Does anyone know why? Can you show some stats? Explain your experience or even give your estimates of investing $1000, $5000 or $10,000 into buying webcam traffic. __________________ Piper Pines

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ErectMedia Confirmed Chicago Pimp Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 7,100	Important to use a cam company or white label company that allows url tracking. This way you can buy traffic from multiple sources and measure sign ups/sales per traffic source. After spending money all over town analytics combined with url tracking will show you which sources are working and which need to be cut. Personally "clicked" traffic has worked the best for me and slightly over 38% of my cam income this year has come from 1 broker. Too many variables, what cam company, are you geo filtering traffic buys, are you buying clicked, popunder, skimmed etc... so one persons advice wont hold true as a blueprint unless your using the same cam program and copying my every move. Patience part comes from quite a few visitors are already members helped from quite a few tubes popping popunders. May take longer to land a good cam spender but you can usually make it up in rev share which is the reason so many offer high PPS. Best advice I can give ya... 1)Track all traffic buys whether brokers/individual sites and adjust the budget over time to what is working 2)Geo target buys to whatever countries the cam company can bill 3)If you are doing a white label get a good domain name and a good logo, if the domain name sucks or the logo looks like shit you are better off sending straight to the sponsor as you need to instill confidence with a white label. __________________ Domain Name Registration Web3 Domains Last edited by ErectMedia; 10-21-2012 at 06:25 PM..

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ErectMedia Confirmed Chicago Pimp Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 7,100	if the one in your sig is yours then track each traffic buy like... http://www.ipartychat.com/?AFNO=1-1 (Broker 1) http://www.ipartychat.com/?AFNO=1-2 (Broker 2) http://www.ipartychat.com/?AFNO=1-3 (Broker 3) just keep increasing the number after "-" as all sign ups/sales will then seperate in stats __________________ Domain Name Registration Web3 Domains

10-21-2012, 07:15 PM	#9
Axel_Crak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Quebec Posts: 662	A good revshare maybe the best long term... It takes time to make money, some surfers browse for free for many months/years before spend money but patience pays, many cams sites user spend $$$ for years... so at the end you will earn more.. So If you need to buy your traffic, revhsare its not the best at beginning, you will probably loose 80-90% of your spending My reccomandation is to use/test differents PPL programs to see how your traffic does, and wich programs make more leads/money . After a while you can switch to revshare if you know your stats and you have the cashflow to afford some lost short/mid term We bought few millions of dollars in traffic as affilates, so i think you can trust my words ;) PS: Im not a big fan of PPS -- __________________

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TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 23,619	Buying traffic is a skill. It's a science. There are no secrets, there is only trial and error and constant testing and lessons that were learned the hard way and at great expense. You have to become good at testing. You have to understand testing. You have to understand every nuance of the traffic source, how it behaves, how traffic quality changes and fluctuates, you have to understand the user, your offers, you have to test constantly etc etc etc etc. You are trying to buy traffic to something that is notoriously difficult to convert. This is going to end in tears for you without a doubt. I would start somewhere else, with something easier to convert where you get some meaningful data to look at, tweak, test and learn - CPA stuff or free/email joins or whatever. __________________ If you don't like that Elon Musk bought twitter,... just build your own and stop crying about it. Last edited by TheSquealer; 10-21-2012 at 07:17 PM..

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AllAboutCams Femcams.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: bjcam.com Posts: 12,216	Plugrush is defiantly the best. The way i found this out was by buying lots of traffic from different places and different types of traffic this also costs a lot of money. People buy credits all the time i have people that signed up in FEB and have only started to buy now. Nobody can give you a estimate of investing $1000 because impossible to guess what each individual person will buy. __________________ Binance - Blockchain and Crypto Asset Exchange Chaturbate make money in cams Last edited by AllAboutCams; 10-21-2012 at 06:02 PM..

10-22-2012, 09:14 PM	#20
mychemicalromance So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 475	some good advices on this thread. at least some people on this site still care about making money.

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