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Old 11-26-2012, 12:13 PM   #1
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Illegal drug users

Next time you get high think about this..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-attempts.html

36 year old woman (ex Mexican Mayor) was taken from in front of her daughter and beaten to death by Drug Cartel. She survived two other attempts on her life prior after being shot by ambush attempts using assault rifles that also killed her first husband.



That's what your Coke & Marry J cost..along with a about 50 thousand others just in Mexico alone, whom have met a similar fate. It's not just drug dealers that kill each other, they also kill innocent people.

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Old 11-26-2012, 12:16 PM   #2
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I don't use any drugs anymore, not for many years, but if governments didn't make it illegal, then the death and crime surrounding it would go way down.

Make them legal, and you will be able to have people produce it in the open, without being controlled and coerced by criminals, and the free market prices would come way down with open competition, so it wouldn't be "easy money" for the cartels anymore.



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only suckers buy shitty mexican weed.
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Next time you get high think about this..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-attempts.html

36 year old woman (ex Mexican Mayor) was taken from in front of her daughter and beaten to death by Drug Cartel. She survived two other attempts on her life prior after being shot by ambush attempts using assault rifles that also killed her first husband.



That's what your Coke & Marry J cost..along with a about 50 thousand others just in Mexico alone, whom have met a similar fate. It's not just drug dealers that kill each other, they also kill innocent people.
Do you bank with Bank of America or any of the major players?

cause i got some bad fucking news.
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I don't drugs at any level. I don't even drink or smoke cigarettes.

I did drugs when I was younger; Nearly killed me.
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Next time you get high think about this..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-attempts.html

36 year old woman (ex Mexican Mayor) was taken from in front of her daughter and beaten to death by Drug Cartel. She survived two other attempts on her life prior after being shot by ambush attempts using assault rifles that also killed her first husband.



That's what your Coke & Marry J cost..along with a about 50 thousand others just in Mexico alone, whom have met a similar fate. It's not just drug dealers that kill each other, they also kill innocent people.
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so you are implying that all the weed smokers on this forum are supporting the killings of innocent people?
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so you are implying that all the weed smokers on this forum are supporting the killings of innocent people?
Also the Taliban.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:02 PM   #11
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so you are implying that all the weed smokers on this forum are supporting the killings of innocent people?
Supply and demand, with out the end users there is no need for a Drug Cartel.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:09 PM   #13
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Funny the biggest entry point of drugs coming into the US is from south of the boarder from South American countries and no one smokes it. It's a miracle, I tell you.
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Funny the biggest entry point of drugs coming into the US is from south of the boarder from South American countries and no one smokes it. It's a miracle, I tell you.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:27 PM   #15
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:32 PM   #16
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innocent? man, she was sure innocent, but she was playing with fire, she was pain in ass for all those mafias, battling against violence, so thats how you ends if you go against the mafia! she was a great woman but on the very wrong place ... rest in peace
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:38 PM   #17
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brave girl...sad story

the laws put the drug cartels in power...same as they did with prohibition
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In my opinion...this could be 1920 and you could say the same thing about alcohol.

When the govt. does prohibition on things people enjoy...it creates criminal enterprise which becomes insanely profitable and in turn begats violence.

Look at the mob during alcohol prohibition.

And then put the blame where it belongs: On the U.S. federal govt. trying to control people's lives with their failed "War On Drugs"
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Very sad and a brave woman

This is worrying for the US people

More than 50,000 people have been killed in clashes between rival drug cartels and security forces and about two dozen mayors have been murdered.

The cartels have ruled the streets with fear for years, enforcing their authority with murders, bribery and torture.

But after decades of using force to combat the gangs, it is U.S. lawmakers who are the criminals' biggest problem.

Legalisation of marijuana, as recently voted for by Colorado and Washington states, may wipe billions of dollars from the cartels? annual profits.

And it has left politicians in Mexico with a tough question: How can they continue to justify spending money ? and lives ? fighting drug distribution to America when it will be legal in some states from next month?


The U.S. Justice Department considers the cartels as America?s greatest organised crime threat, while conceding that it is U.S. dollars that fund the crime ravaging Mexico.

In 2009 a military assessment predicted that if the drugs war continued for another 25 years, Mexico?s government was at serious risk of collapse and the conflict would spread into America.

A year earlier, the U.S. Joint Forces Command suggested a similar time-scale of collapse in Mexico and warned American intervention may be necessary due to the implications for homeland security.

The problem of strengthening the Mexico/U.S. border even prompted President Barack Obama to deploy 1,200 National Guard troops in 2010.

The two major cartels in Mexico are now the Sinaloa Cartel and Los Zetas.

The Sinaloa Cartel was formed when several gangs agreed to join forces in 2006 and is now led by Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman.

He is Mexico's most wanted drug trafficker and is believed to be worth $1billion. Forbes magazing even declared him the 55th most powerful man in the world in 2009.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-attempts.html
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I grew up and stoped smoking weed about 20 years ago. I dont need any shit drugs in my life thank you..
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I done quite a few different drugs when I was a teen.
Last time I smoked any pot it was legal, in Amsterdam about 6 or 7 years ago.

I feel sorry for a lot of the people growing marijuana getting thrown in jail for selling something a fair amount of western society feels is safer than smoking or drinking.

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There was just as much violence during prohibition and look now. Make the shit legal and violence stop. Just ask a drug dealer if he want the shit legal. They would go bankrupt in no time
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perzactly my ver yfirst thought ... if it was legal the cartels would be burned
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Supply and demand, with out the end users there is no need for a Drug Cartel.
Stupid guy. So your solution is the genocide of all drug consumers? Legalization is way easier and less expensive. Now go fuck yourself
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Well said OP, but I must emphasize that it is valid for marijuana as well. Junkies will have different reasoning of course (like "I do not buy mexican weed" )
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Funny the biggest entry point of drugs coming into the US is from south of the boarder from South American countries and no one smokes it. It's a miracle, I tell you.
With so many junkies on the forum you sure will be flamed here
They need to justify their actions by any means
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With so many junkies on the forum you sure will be flamed here
They need to justify their actions by any means

Get your terminology right. Junkie by definition is one who is addicted to NARCOTICS. Marijuana is not a narcotic (and non addictive). Which part of this do you have trouble comprehending?
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Just like with prostitution it is the fact that it is illegal that createsthese situations, if it were legal you take the crime out of it

but in doing so you free up a lot of prison space, law enforcement resources courts, prosecutors etc...and without all that the government loses out on a lot of money to fund this idiotic war on drugs....so they are just as culpable as the cartel that did it, they all work together for profit, thats the bottom line.

some small percentage of your tax dollars subsidized that womans death...believe it....
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Get your terminology right. Junkie by definition is one who is addicted to NARCOTICS. Marijuana is not a narcotic (and non addictive). Which part of this do you have trouble comprehending?
If its not a narcotic to you does not mean its not in reality. For instance speaking of Mexico - its is narcotic there. And it is called narcotic in most of the world. I could name you 20-30+ European countries where marijuana IS called narcotic. Not to mention almost every country in the world. So if you do not call it narcotic does not mean it is not.

As for addictive part - you got to love potheads who smokes weed every single day, yet they claim they are not addicted If it does not give you physical pain when you stop using it does not mean its not addictive!

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I dont do coke and the weed I smoke is for sure not grown in Mexico. So I am going to keep smoking.
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So if everybody on GFY that does drugs stopped today the problem will go away?

Awesome! Let's do it guys and gals!
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My weed man has a whole grow house so I wold think I'm not helping the drug dealers in any other country.
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If its not a narcotic to you does not mean its not in reality. For instance speaking of Mexico - its is narcotic there. And it is called narcotic in most of the world. I could name you 20-30+ European countries where marijuana IS called narcotic. Not to mention almost every country in the world. So if you do not call it narcotic does not mean it is not.

As for addictive part - you got to love potheads who smokes weed every single day, yet they claim they are not addicted If it does not give you physical pain when you stop using it does not mean its not addictive!

The DEA lists marijuana as a schedule I NON-NARCOTIC drug. Are you fucking retarded or what?

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/index.html
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Just like with prostitution it is the fact that it is illegal that createsthese situations, if it were legal you take the crime out of it

but in doing so you free up a lot of prison space, law enforcement resources courts, prosecutors etc...and without all that the government loses out on a lot of money to fund this idiotic war on drugs....so they are just as culpable as the cartel that did it, they all work together for profit, thats the bottom line.

some small percentage of your tax dollars subsidized that womans death...believe it....

It's a difficult situation to try to say which is better. I'd be willing to bet there wasn't as many car accidents with drunk drivers during prohibition. Meaning in trade for finding a solution to one thing we created problems elsewhere.

Now think about that with junkies.. This isn't just about marijuana, because just legalizing it does little to combating drug cartels. It might be their cash cow at the moment but they would easily move into other products. Meth, Heroin.. ect..ect. Which I'm sure they are already into.

So you have to legalize it all. If you try to win the war by decriminalization. How many side effects do you think that would have in the long run? Think junkies still wont steal to support their habits? It's not like just because it's legal the drugs would be free.
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As for addictive part - you got to love potheads who smokes weed every single day, yet they claim they are not addicted If it does not give you physical pain when you stop using it does not mean its not addictive!
I haven't smoked in over a week, and have no need or urge too... What's the timeframe between when you drink?


..Yeah that's what I thought.

Also it can be listed as a narcotic all over the world, just not in the USA, doesn't mean shit... It's also legal all over the world, but not in the USA.
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You think there hasn't been the same type of fighting among the drug cartels in Columbia?
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I haven't smoked in over a week, and have no need or urge too... What's the timeframe between when you drink?


..Yeah that's what I thought.

Also it can be listed as a narcotic all over the world, just not in the USA, doesn't mean shit... It's also legal all over the world, but not in the USA.
Its not listed as a narcotic anywhere, that guy simply doesnt know his ass from a hole in the ground. The DEA is the biggest anti-marijuana propagandist on the planet and push other countries drug policies.
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Once again... Drugs are not for stupid people...
Yet all the stupid people use it.

Drugs in general (from nicotine, alcohol to smack) fuck people up and are the reason that people get addicted, get aggressive, get mental/physical problems. I see it happen everywhere. People who are close to me, people on tv shows like cops. We all see it happen.

I don't understand it. I don't understand how any drug could be the one and only reason to behave that way. I'm pretty sure there has to be something wrong with you in the first place.
I tried many different things and no matter if i liked it or not i never got fucked up, in a bad way. I never felt like getting into a fight with someone. I never felt like i have to get into a car, drive way too fast and run from the police.

The problem is that too many people who use drugs shouldn't be using drugs. They can't handle it.

If you are a normal, educated person, with parents who raised you well, who told you to be polite and explained to you that aggression will not get you anywhere then i'm sure you will not act like a fucking idiot when you get drunk, smoke a doobie, or do a line.

Well actually you might act like an idiot but not in an aggressive way.

My friends don't get aggressive. Because i hang with nice people.

It's always the same people who get into fights...always! Every time they go out. And they always blame someone else.
And those people are always talking about "showing some respect". As in: i just destroyed your face because you didn't show any respect.

I never talk about respect. Because it's normal behaviour to be good to people who are good to you.

Really, if some guy in the bar, late at night, is talking about respect...just leave...because he's about to smash you in the face.
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Local produce consumption will clean this up this planet.
And i'm not talking about just weed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_footprint
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