Fearful of Ban, Frenzied Gun Nuts Swarm Gun Stores

[GrantMercury]

It's all about fear. Fear = $$$ for the gun industry.

People are afraid of crime and violence - so they buy guns.

Crime and violence make fearful people fear they won't be able to buy guns - so they buy guns.

Is it any wonder the corporate media "news" feeds the population with a steady diet of violent stories? A frightened audience is a captive audience. And when you're the military-industrial-infotainment complex - it's good for business.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/f...3#.UOM5qnfheSp

The NRA is surely hoping for more massacres. Each mass killing is Christmas day for them.

[SilentKnight]

Bullet Blocker, which makes bulletproof vests, briefcases and insert panels, saw sales of its children's backpacks suddenly jump. The children's backpacks, which are designed to be used as shields, cost over $200 each.

What a poignant and frightening statement on the times we live in. A society where we put bulletproof panels in our children's knapsacks in the hopes it'll help them survive at school.

"Here you go, son...your juice box and bologna sandwich...oh, and don't forget your kevlar."

[Tom_PM]

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

What a poignant and frightening statement on the times we live in. A society where we put bulletproof panels in our children's knapsacks in the hopes it'll help them survive at school.

"Here you go, son...your juice box and bologna sandwich...oh, and don't forget your kevlar."

It feels weird that within the last century, people could safely leave their front doors unlocked while they were out pretty much without worry. Wonder what it was like.

[directfiesta]

can they please make believe they will ban porn ....

[DWB]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

What a poignant and frightening statement on the times we live in. A society where we put bulletproof panels in our children's knapsacks in the hopes it'll help them survive at school.

"Here you go, son...your juice box and bologna sandwich...oh, and don't forget your kevlar."

Just imagine where we're going to be 20 more years from now.

[Dirty F]

What a godamn retarded country. Unbelievable.

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

What a godamn retarded country. Unbelievable.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by DWB

Just imagine where we're going to be 20 more years from now.

Armoured school buses with helicopter gunship escorts.

[MrMaxwell]

Originally Posted by PornMD

It feels weird that within the last century, people could safely leave their front doors unlocked while they were out pretty much without worry. Wonder what it was like.

It's actually still like that in a lot of areas

[pimpmaster9000]

flamethrowers! we need flamethrowers!...also cluster grenades...we need to feel SAFE lets all arm the fuck up like a bunch of paranoid nutjob pill popping rednecks and pretend that when the next shootin' happens the kids and teachers will go all matrix on the attackes ass and avoid bullets and walk on walls and reload clips while doing backflips...man those attackers are gonna be sorry they messed with the armed kids ...man it seems like some people on this board do not watch movies enough, shiiiiiiit everybody knows kung fu and can curve bullets nowadays....hail to the rise of the klingon empire!

[MrMaxwell]

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

It's all about fear. Fear = $$$ for the gun industry.

People are afraid of crime and violence - so they buy guns.

Crime and violence make fearful people fear they won't be able to buy guns - so they buy guns.

Is it any wonder the corporate media "news" feeds the population with a steady diet of violent stories? A frightened audience is a captive audience. And when you're the military-industrial-infotainment complex - it's good for business.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/f...3#.UOM5qnfheSp

The NRA is surely hoping for more massacres. Each mass killing is Christmas day for them.

How dare you accuse the gun lobby of using the tragedies to further its cause? Gun CONTROL nuts use tragedy EVERY DAY and gun control advocates have a river of blood flowing over their hands. Period.

But let's just let these assholes go into a kill at will situation and murder who ever they want for hours at a time instead of stopping them.

Let's be completely defenseless because it's "for the children" and "guns are baaaad, mmmkay"

[Tom_PM]

Originally Posted by PornMD

It feels weird that within the last century, people could safely leave their front doors unlocked while they were out pretty much without worry. Wonder what it was like.

Some would have you believe that in a world like that, there would be nothing but criminals since they could still, even then, get guns if they REALLY wanted to.

They didn't though, because they weren't faced with a gun crazed and fearful citizenry. They could just punch you and take your wallet. These days they're afraid you are carrying a glock so they make sure to carry one too. And yeah, I really believe that. Because no matter how scared a mom and pop are, a criminal knows he's going to be getting into a struggle so he arms himself. Shame some don't understand the slope they're sliding down. Oh well.

Yeah.. it was nice to not feel like you had to lock your door.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by DWB

Just imagine where we're going to be 20 more years from now.

If the current mentality continues...impossible to imagine.

Kids having to be home-schooled by parents fearful of their safety. Barbed wire fences around schools (compounds) with trained armed guards in sentry towers...metal detectors.

[shinmusashi44]

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

How dare you accuse the gun lobby of using the tragedies to further its cause? Gun CONTROL nuts use tragedy EVERY DAY and gun control advocates have a river of blood flowing over their hands. Period.

But let's just let these assholes go into a kill at will situation and murder who ever they want for hours at a time instead of stopping them.

Let's be completely defenseless because it's "for the children" and "guns are baaaad, mmmkay"

Did you just got full retard? Don't you know you never go full retard

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

It's all about fear. Fear = $$$ for the gun industry.

People are afraid of crime and violence - so they buy guns.

Crime and violence make fearful people fear they won't be able to buy guns - so they buy guns.

Is it any wonder the corporate media "news" feeds the population with a steady diet of violent stories? A frightened audience is a captive audience. And when you're the military-industrial-infotainment complex - it's good for business.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/f...3#.UOM5qnfheSp

The NRA is surely hoping for more massacres. Each mass killing is Christmas day for them.

Quoted for Truth.

[Robbie]

Pretty sure the gun sales didn't go up because the NRA "used" a tragedy.

Gun sales are through the roof because gun control advocates began talking about banning weapons after the tragedy. And when the President made a couple of remarks hinting at it...the gun sales went through the roof.

President Obama has been the greatest thing for gun sales in history.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by PornMD

It feels weird that within the last century, people could safely leave their front doors unlocked while they were out pretty much without worry. Wonder what it was like.

my father used to leave the keys in the car, parked in front of our house.

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

can they please make believe they will ban porn ....

HA HA!

Cha-chinggg! $$$

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

[tony286]

Originally Posted by DWB

Just imagine where we're going to be 20 more years from now.

like mad fucking max lol

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

How dare you accuse the gun lobby of using the tragedies to further its cause? Gun CONTROL nuts use tragedy EVERY DAY and gun control advocates have a river of blood flowing over their hands. Period.

"Gun control" advocates don't make any money. The gun manufacturers do. And they've got you by the balls.

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by Robbie

President Obama has been the greatest thing for gun sales in history.

Can't really argue with that.

[brassmonkey]

its their right to buy guns.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Can't really argue with that.

It always works like that. Make alcohol illegal...suddenly EVERYBODY wants a drink. Drugs illegal? More people want to try them.

The best way to make something more popular is to try and ban it. I remember when controversial books were labeled "Banned In Boston" when I was a kid (I have no idea why they chose "Boston") and that book would be a Number One Best Seller.

Hell, I'll bet people in New York are drinking MORE soda now that the mayor made it illegal to sell anything over a 16oz serving. lol

[keysync]

And there was a mad dash for twinkies when they declared bankruptcy.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

What a poignant and frightening statement on the times we live in. A society where we put bulletproof panels in our children's knapsacks in the hopes it'll help them survive at school.

"Here you go, son...your juice box and bologna sandwich...oh, and don't forget your kevlar."

Horrible!

.

[DTK]

My father, an avid consumer of right-wing propaganda, recently started making noises about buying a gun.

I was like "Dad, blah blah on the politics. Probably the only things that will happen are a reinstatement of the assault weapons ban, and maybe a little tighter regulation. You should have one for home defense. If you're really serious about it, I'll help you."

I've lost count of how many times the right-wing screamers got him all worked up about something, then losing interest when they stopped screaming about it

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by Robbie

It always works like that. Make alcohol illegal...suddenly EVERYBODY wants a drink. Drugs illegal? More people want to try them.

The best way to make something more popular is to try and ban it. I remember when controversial books were labeled "Banned In Boston" when I was a kid (I have no idea why they chose "Boston") and that book would be a Number One Best Seller.

Hell, I'll bet people in New York are drinking MORE soda now that the mayor made it illegal to sell anything over a 16oz serving. lol

I see your reasoning, but Obama is the best thing to happen to gun manufacturers because the South went bananas when a black Democrat won the presidency. He never mentioned gun control until the latest horrifying massacre of 20 children - the fact that he did just gave the paranoid nuts another reason to hoard firearms. From the very beginning, just his presence drove the wackos even deeper into madness.

[DTK]

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

He never mentioned gun control until the latest horrifying massacre of 20 children - the fact that he did just gave the paranoid nuts another reason to hoard firearms. From the very beginning, just his presence drove the wackos even deeper into madness.

That's a point I made a while ago.

From the day obama was elected, the gun manufacturers' mouthpieces (the NRA, for example) were screaming that president blackenstein was out to get your guns.

The reality: there wasn't a single peep from the administration about guns. In the one presidential debate where gun control was brought up, both obama and romney just killed time and said nothing of any substance.

[bronco67]

The words "frenzied" and "gun-nuts" just go so perfectly together.

[lezinterracial]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

can they please make believe they will ban porn ....

Or just make them believe they will ban free porn. Mad dash for external hard drives.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

I see your reasoning, but Obama is the best thing to happen to gun manufacturers because the South went bananas when a black Democrat won the presidency. He never mentioned gun control until the latest horrifying massacre of 20 children - the fact that he did just gave the paranoid nuts another reason to hoard firearms. From the very beginning, just his presence drove the wackos even deeper into madness.

You sure do lump tens of millions of people together in one big "crazy" package don't you?

You should really get out more and open your eyes. Just because half the country has different ideas and experiences than you do doesn't mean they are wrong or a "nut".

You're no different than the right wing pundits who refer to you as a left wing "extremist".

People are individuals. And most people who are as racist as you are stating are dirt poor rednecks living in the mountains. They can't even afford to buy a bunch of guns. lol

The gun "nuts" that you are referring to who buy lots of weapons are generally well educated and have enough disposable income to go to gun shows.

Are there people who are racists and own guns? Yes.

But the only people I ever hear talk about race are people like you who just keep on accusing other fellow Americans of racism. You and the clowns on MSNBC with their ridiculous "dog whistle" bullshit that they attach to EVERYTHING that a Republican says to gain political points.

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by Robbie

You sure do lump tens of millions of people together in one big "crazy" package don't you?

You should really get out more and open your eyes. Just because half the country has different ideas and experiences than you do doesn't mean they are wrong or a "nut".

You're no different than the right wing pundits who refer to you as a left wing "extremist".

People are individuals. And most people who are as racist as you are stating are dirt poor rednecks living in the mountains. They can't even afford to buy a bunch of guns. lol

The gun "nuts" that you are referring to who buy lots of weapons are generally well educated and have enough disposable income to go to gun shows.

Are there people who are racists and own guns? Yes.

But the only people I ever hear talk about race are people like you who just keep on accusing other fellow Americans of racism. You and the clowns on MSNBC with their ridiculous "dog whistle" bullshit that they attach to EVERYTHING that a Republican says to gain political points.

When gun owners oppose common sense legislation such as background checks, waiting periods, and limiting anonymous online and gun show sales of high capacity guns and clips - they're GUN NUTS. It's not rational people clogging the gun stores in the wake of the latest massacre - it's paranoid gun nuts.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

What a godamn retarded country. Unbelievable.

a serious question, are you on meds? you display the personality of someone on meds... totally focus on a narrow point of view and a total obsession to the point of view.. . I usually see that with the guys on meds.... they make list as well... you make list??

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by tony286

my father used to leave the keys in the car, parked in front of our house.

can still live like that in my area most of the time

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by PornMD

It feels weird that within the last century, people could safely leave their front doors unlocked while they were out pretty much without worry. Wonder what it was like.

There USED to be a middle class who had good paying jobs, so there was no need for crime on mass.

It's not to say crime did not exist, but you now have a larger population and less well paying jobs. Which leads to a lot of the society's problems with crime. Sprinkle in the drugs, the media's sensationalism, and other social bullshit going on, and you have the madness of today.

The bigger the gap gets between the have's and have not's, the more you will see society tearing it's self apart until it finally snaps and forces some level of change. You can't have CEO's making 1000 times that of the worker, while the average Joe has to work 3 jobs just to afford to live and feed their family.

[6South]

An industry so dependent on civil liberties and freedoms should be more supportive of other industries also dependent on those same liberties.

The same false arguments / tactics used by the gun ban crowd can be easily used on porn.
"Porn causes rape / pedophilia, etc, etc".
I'd think very carefully about supporting positions that can set those kinds of precedents. Sooner or later the ball will fly your way in that environment, I don't care what your personal issue of choice is.

The worst school massacre in US history was committed with a bomb. You could ban every gun in the country, crime will not go down and these kinds of horrible acts will continue to happen.

In Australia and the UK where guns were banned crime rose drastically. Home invasions have become extremely popular now that criminals don't have to worry about being shot. The criminals still have guns and the ones who don't use knives, tire irons, bricks, etc to commit armed robbery. Those crimes have also risen dramatically with the main difference being that more victims are seriously injured now from being stabbed and bludgeoned.

Wish for a gun ban in one hand and shit in the other, this is one issue the US public is not going to sit back and allow the Feds to roll over them on.

[6South]

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

When gun owners oppose common sense legislation such as background checks, waiting periods, and limiting anonymous online and gun show sales of high capacity guns and clips - they're GUN NUTS. It's not rational people clogging the gun stores in the wake of the latest massacre - it's paranoid gun nuts.

What fucking planet do you live on? We already have background checks for every weapon purchase, waiting periods in multiple states (as well as full blown gun bans regardless of constitutional compliance). Gun shows have the same requirements as any gun shop - a federal background check, valid ID, etc.

What people oppose are further bans and regulations that only affect legal, compliant gun owners.

Criminals do not buy their guns legally. They steal them or buy them illegally from someone else who stole them. Gun owners are sick and tired of endless legal hoops and regulations that have zero effect on crime.

This country really is stuffed full of sheep, easily led on whatever issue the TV is pushing. When all the added regulations and even full blown bans in various places make absolutely no difference in crime that should tell you something. No amount of regulation or banning will stop criminals, period.

The only group putting assault rifles into the hands of violent criminals en masse would be the ATF. Come up with a rational explanation for that one and then ask yourself why the Feds would want to ban guns. It's sure as hell not to reduce crime or stop mass murders.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

There USED to be a middle class who had good paying jobs, so there was no need for crime on mass.

It's not to say crime did not exist, but you now have a larger population and less well paying jobs. Which leads to a lot of the society's problems with crime. Sprinkle in the drugs, the media's sensationalism, and other social bullshit going on, and you have the madness of today.

The bigger the gap gets between the have's and have not's, the more you will see society tearing it's self apart until it finally snaps and forces some level of change. You can't have CEO's making 1000 times that of the worker, while the average Joe has to work 3 jobs just to afford to live and feed their family.

LOL while this sounds good, most of the crimes are done because it is easier to steal then hold down a 40 hour a week job. Same with selling drugs. The ROI on your time. Criminals are mostly lazy, and would not work if they had a $30 an hour job.

Some do it for Fun, even Celebrities. Who was that Lindsay Lohan(sp) chick, she is stupid rich and stole some shit!

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by 6South

The only group putting assault rifles into the hands of violent criminals en masse would be the ATF. Come up with a rational explanation for that one and then ask yourself why the Feds would want to ban guns. It's sure as hell not to reduce crime or stop mass murders.

Do not question the ALMIGHTY FEDERAL GOVT to GrantMercury.
The Feds are like GOD to him and he worships them endlessly.

I had kinda hoped this guy would calm the fuck down after Obama won re-election. But it looks like everytime Ed Shulz or Chris Matthews or Rachel Maddow makes a proclamation on MSNBC...guys like this go ape-shit and start screaming for MORE govt. control over us.

Total anti-freedom.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

If the current mentality continues...impossible to imagine.

Kids having to be home-schooled by parents fearful of their safety. Barbed wire fences around schools (compounds) with trained armed guards in sentry towers...metal detectors.

I don't see how it is possible for the currently mentality to turn around and head in the other direction. I hope it does, but I honestly don't see it happening. Our children's future is a dark one, and our grandchildren... I don't want to imagine the world they may have to live in. Hopefully one of the generations will come to their senses before it gets too bad.

When I think of the future of the USA the movie Escape From New York comes to mind. Those who are able to live in peace will do so. Those who can not will be sent to live in a walled off prison state or island.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Do not question the ALMIGHTY FEDERAL GOVT to GrantMercury.
The Feds are like GOD to him and he worships them endlessly.

I had kinda hoped this guy would calm the fuck down after Obama won re-election. But it looks like everytime Ed Shulz or Chris Matthews or Rachel Maddow makes a proclamation on MSNBC...guys like this go ape-shit and start screaming for MORE govt. control over us.

Total anti-freedom.

Robbie, if it ever gets too much for you I'll always have an open room for you and your big tittied wife.

[GrantMercury]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Do not question the ALMIGHTY FEDERAL GOVT to GrantMercury.
The Feds are like GOD to him and he worships them endlessly.

I had kinda hoped this guy would calm the fuck down after Obama won re-election. But it looks like everytime Ed Shulz or Chris Matthews or Rachel Maddow makes a proclamation on MSNBC...guys like this go ape-shit and start screaming for MORE govt. control over us.

Total anti-freedom.

You're such a dumbass. Stop whining. You're just sore because I called you out on your bullshit.

In terms of government control, I want LESS control over us - and MORE control over Wall Street, corporations, and the military-industrial-infotainment complex.

[Donny]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Kids having to be home-schooled by parents fearful of their safety.

This is already happening.

[BigB]

and if just one parent would have been responsible and had
her guns locked up in a gun safe, where they belong ,,,,

(except one for home security)


we would not be having this discussion,,,,


cant punish her... she is dead


Big B

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by GrantMercury

You're such a dumbass. Stop whining. You're just sore because I called you out on your bullshit.

In terms of government control, I want LESS control over us - and MORE control over Wall Street, corporations, and the military-industrial-infotainment complex.

When did you ever "call me out"?

You don't have the intelligence, world view, or experience to call out someone like me.

And you claim you don't want more govt. control?
EVERY POST YOU MAKE IS PRO GOVERNMENT.

You are the biggest federal govt. ass kisser on this board. The ultimate sheep being led to the slaughter.

As I said before...you remind me of me 20 years ago. You'll grow up and start seeing through these shysters and con artists who you voted for now...and you'll wonder how you could have ever been so blind.

[slapass]

Gun deaths are way down. Murder is way down. The USA is the safest it has been in 30 years. Less people own guns. The amount of guns that people own are up but less people % wise own them. Give it time and all the weirdos who need 6 assault rifles to feel safe will be gone.

I recently read that the generation that lived with segregation is to blame for much of the fear of violence in the US and that they will soon be dead. The rest of us are actually getting along pretty well.

[PR_Phil]

Originally Posted by 6South

An industry so dependent on civil liberties and freedoms should be more supportive of other industries also dependent on those same liberties.

The same false arguments / tactics used by the gun ban crowd can be easily used on porn.
"Porn causes rape / pedophilia, etc, etc".
I'd think very carefully about supporting positions that can set those kinds of precedents. Sooner or later the ball will fly your way in that environment, I don't care what your personal issue of choice is.

sorry, but reality says you are wrong, porn doesn't cause rape / pedophilia, and guns don't create lunatics.

the same thing cause both, it is a mental condition, there are arguments about crimes of passion, crimes of retribution, but the core of the main issue is the mental condition's of those involved.

now, and this is the important part, here is the difference that renders your argument completely ludicrous.

People with pre determined mental conditions which draw them to commit crimes such as rape are turned on by Rape porn, which is just as illegal and banned as some people think guns should be, sic minded people into pedophilia are turned onto and driven toward that sickness by pornographic material that is 100% illegal and 100% banned. Legal pornography does nothing to induce these crimes. Realistically, my last comment is irrelevant, even if legal pornography did make a rapist want to commit a rape, the porn in no way facilitates the crime, it does not tie the victim up, if does not tear her clothes off, it does not prevent her from screaming.

now, at the complete opposite end of the spectrum, a firearm does more to facilitate the crime of murder than any other readily available weapon, it depersonalizes the crime, it speeds up the process to where someone reacts before thinking twice, the availability of a gun 100% makes the crime easier. The availability of porn makes 0% difference in the ease of committing the crime.

in fact, the kicker is, the presence of a gun facilitates rape, not the presence of porn.

argument as weak as saying "you can still do that around here most of the time".