Gun Insurance Bill In New York To Require Liability Coverage - GoFuckYourself.com

GrantMercury · 02-20-2013, 02:28 PM

Interesting.

Gun insurance bill in New York to require liability coverage

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The new proposal from State Assemblyman Felix Ortiz suggests that owners will need to be covered.

Bill S2353 has just been introduced into the New York State Assembly by Assemblyman Felix Ortiz (D-Brooklyn), which would make it required for residents of the state to have to obtain liability gun insurance in order to be able to own a firearm.
The bill identifies not only the minimum coverage but also the consequences for failure to buy a policy.

http://www.liveinsurancenews.com/gun...erage/8520133/

MrBottomTooth · 02-20-2013, 02:33 PM

Yet another law to punish the legitimate gun owners while doing nothing to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. I bet all the crooks with their illegally obtained handguns will be lining up to pay their insurance premiums

SuckOnThis · 02-20-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Yet another law to punish the legitimate gun owners while doing nothing to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. I bet all the crooks with their illegally obtained handguns will be lining up to pay their insurance premiums

And just how do you think they got in the hands of criminals in the first place?

MrBottomTooth · 02-20-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

And just how do you think they got in the hands of criminals in the first place?

Stealing from legitimate owners? The gun show loophole? Etc

Put some laws in place that will have some real effect. This is just another tax on gun owners that serves no real purpose. Not unlike the 2 billion dollar gun registry that was recently scrapped here in Canada.

HushMoney · 02-20-2013, 03:21 PM

You now see the result of all the hardwork done by insurance lobbyists.

media · 02-20-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney

You now see the result of all the hardwork done by insurance lobbyists.

Quoted for truth!

Matt 26z · 02-20-2013, 04:30 PM

"Should the firearm ever be stolen or lost, it must be reported to the police immediately. Should a crime occur involving the use of that weapon, before the report has been made which informs the police of the loss or theft, then it is the gun’s owner who will be held liable."

So they are trying to do it like cars. The owner, not the user, is financially responsible for misuse. I've always thought that was the dumbest thing.

Due · 02-20-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney

You now see the result of all the hardwork done by insurance lobbyists.

Great way to solve a good conflict
Americans don't want to have the big brother evil government monitoring their gun ownership so they pushed it over to corporate America. More tax revenues and less paperwork for the government
Why would any gun owner be pissed, isn't this what they wanted ?

Barry-xlovecam · 02-20-2013, 05:11 PM

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Legislative measure likely to see resistance on constitutional grounds

No state has ever approved of a gun liability insurance legislation in the history of the U.S. Over the past decade, several such legislations have been rejected throughout the country, 15 of which coming from New York. Opponents of such measures suggest that liability insurance would limit people?s constitutional rights by imposing financial pressure on those that choose to own guns. Another issue is that insurance companies cannot be forced to offer gun liability insurance companies, thus further limiting people?s ability to purchase and own firearms.
http://www.liveinsurancenews.com/lia...he-us/8519831/

The same site acknowledges the flawed concept ... a red herring ...

Rochard · 02-20-2013, 06:27 PM

And thus it begins. The fucking gun owners bitched like little babies without accepting the fact that innocent children died, and now we'll have to carry insurance on our firearms. Watch this. If this makes it out to California, how much will I have to pay - three assault rifles and three handguns? It will be more than my car insurance for sure!

Fucking NRA fucked us hard.

BFT3K · 02-20-2013, 10:40 PM

I'm not a gun nut by any means, but it would seem to me that the more red tape a person needs to cut through to buy something legally, the more likely they will just buy that something, illegally.

Same with associated expenses. If legally purchasing a firearm requires additional and ongoing costs (like insurance), then simply based upon economics, illegal sales will inevitably increase.

- Jesus Christ - · 02-20-2013, 11:14 PM

Good.

The sooner they push everyone underground. The sooner they implode.

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 71,095	And thus it begins. The fucking gun owners bitched like little babies without accepting the fact that innocent children died, and now we'll have to carry insurance on our firearms. Watch this. If this makes it out to California, how much will I have to pay - three assault rifles and three handguns? It will be more than my car insurance for sure! Fucking NRA fucked us hard. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	"Should the firearm ever be stolen or lost, it must be reported to the police immediately. Should a crime occur involving the use of that weapon, before the report has been made which informs the police of the loss or theft, then it is the gun’s owner who will be held liable." So they are trying to do it like cars. The owner, not the user, is financially responsible for misuse. I've always thought that was the dumbest thing.

02-20-2013, 10:40 PM	#11
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	I'm not a gun nut by any means, but it would seem to me that the more red tape a person needs to cut through to buy something legally, the more likely they will just buy that something, illegally. Same with associated expenses. If legally purchasing a firearm requires additional and ongoing costs (like insurance), then simply based upon economics, illegal sales will inevitably increase.