Content Shooters - What do you do with "bad" content? - GoFuckYourself.com

RandyRandy · 02-21-2013, 10:53 AM

I'm new at shooting content, having recently shot scenes for a new clips4sale store I'm opening. Some of the scenes went just as I wanted and others came off lame, due to my own bad direction. I'm in the middle of editing right now and wondering - what do you guys do when you look at a scene and it's not at all like you wanted? Do you throw it away? Do you put it on the shelf? Do you use it anyway? Put it up on a tube site as promotional material (though using bad work for promotion strikes me as stupid)?

Thanks and thanks for all the great information I've found on this site in the past year leading up to my first shoot!

NaughtyRob · 02-21-2013, 10:54 AM

Use it as promo and sell it as exgf/amateur content and put it on clips4sale.

Red Ezra · 02-21-2013, 11:10 AM

Don't use bad content please - just take it as a lesson and move forward..

SGS · 02-21-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Ezra

Don't use bad content please - just take it as a lesson and move forward..

Grapesoda · 02-21-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

I'm new at shooting content, having recently shot scenes for a new clips4sale store I'm opening. Some of the scenes went just as I wanted and others came off lame, due to my own bad direction. I'm in the middle of editing right now and wondering - what do you guys do when you look at a scene and it's not at all like you wanted? Do you throw it away? Do you put it on the shelf? Do you use it anyway? Put it up on a tube site as promotional material (though using bad work for promotion strikes me as stupid)?

Thanks and thanks for all the great information I've found on this site in the past year leading up to my first shoot!

edit the good stuff into a promo... you can find 1-2 min can't you? and then LEARN from your mistake....

yuu.design · 02-21-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Ezra

Don't use bad content please - just take it as a lesson and move forward..

good point

RandyRandy · 02-21-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SGS

That was my first thought - just use it as a lesson to be more focused and give better direction.

NALEM · 02-21-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Some of the scenes went just as I wanted and others came off lame, due to my own bad direction. I'm in the middle of editing right now and wondering - what do you guys do when you look at a scene and it's not at all like you wanted? Do you throw it away? Do you put it on the shelf? Do you use it anyway? Put it up on a tube site as promotional material (though using bad work for promotion strikes me as stupid)?

Depends on what you consider "lame". You can pull a few frames out of each scene, and slice it together to make promo/trailers, or if some really looks amateur-ish, then that can serve a different niche in another store/site.

RandyRandy · 02-21-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

edit the good stuff into a promo... you can find 1-2 min can't you? and then LEARN from your mistake....

There's definitely 1-2 "good" minutes in there for promo material - thanks!

Triple-A · 02-21-2013, 11:34 AM

sell it to xerotics

RandyRandy · 02-21-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

Depends on what you consider "lame". You can pull a few frames out of each scene, and slice it together to make promo/trailers, or if some really looks amateur-ish, then that can serve a different niche in another store/site.

I used three Colombian strippers to shoot some bdsm scenes and in several - instead of being sadistic, they would just grind their asses into the other girls' face. I guess with no direction, they went with what they do best.

fitzmulti · 02-21-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

I used three Colombian strippers to shoot some bdsm scenes and in several - instead of being sadistic, they would just grind their asses into the other girls' face. I guess with no direction, they went with what they do best.

Well, at Clips$Sale, that kinda stuff is popular and fetishy...it may not be "Stripper BDSM"...but it could be at least "silver" where you wanted "gold".
Stick that sh*t up there!

Bman · 02-22-2013, 01:32 AM

oh yeah...
lets see a clip

grumpy · 02-22-2013, 03:43 AM

keep up the quality, do a new shoot. Keep your standards.

Jay-Rock · 02-22-2013, 08:19 AM

Trash it and move on. Bad scenes reflect on your body of work and you don't want to be known for shooting bad scenes.

ilnjscb · 02-22-2013, 09:46 AM

Yeah, for those of you that shoot high end stuff with a uniform look and have a brand - but even bad work costs $1000s and should be able to be monetized, if only to a lesser extent.

DukeSkywalker · 02-22-2013, 11:07 AM

If we shoot a scene that sucks, we put it up anyway, but are open with the customers about why it sucks & what went wrong. When you have a fan base stuff like this becomes like a B side of your favorite band.
When it sucks, own it.
ds

DukeSkywalker · 02-22-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock

Trash it and move on. Bad scenes reflect on your body of work and you don't want to be known for shooting bad scenes.

Depends on why it's bad though. If it's out of focus, yea, it's useless, but if it's just not up to standards putt it up anyway as a bonus update & engage your customers into asking why it sucks etc. They in essence become & feel involved.
Ds

RandyRandy · 02-22-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

If we shoot a scene that sucks, we put it up anyway, but are open with the customers about why it sucks & what went wrong. When you have a fan base stuff like this becomes like a B side of your favorite band.
When it sucks, own it.
ds

That's what I was thinking to do. As this is for a clips4sale store, put in the description what we were going for, what happened and what are the redeeming values. And mark down the price. This way no one who buys can say they were misled.

DukeSkywalker · 02-22-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

That's what I was thinking to do. As this is for a clips4sale store, put in the description what we were going for, what happened and what are the redeeming values. And mark down the price. This way no one who buys can say they were misled.

Yea, exactly. & poke fun at yourself too. Give it away very very cheap though. For me, I'd put it in my sites along with the scheduled update so they are just getting extra although the extra sucks. Different model though with cfs. Keep it cheap.
Best
ds

2013 · 02-22-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

Depends on what you consider "lame". You can pull a few frames out of each scene, and slice it together to make promo/trailers, or if some really looks amateur-ish, then that can serve a different niche in another store/site.

all of your photos are considered lame

RandyRandy · 02-22-2013, 11:17 AM

Nothing is out of focus, it just the intent of some of the scenes didn't get realized. There's a Strappado scene where they just didn't crank the girl high enough and they just kept playing with her, but in a friendly way, not in a tormenting way - that was the problem in a couple of scenes. That instead of being tormented, the victim was being played with in a sensual way. Sensual is fine, but that's not the theme of the store.

NaughtyVisions · 02-22-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 2013

all of your photos are considered lame

I was going to reply to Nalem's post and say, "or you could put it all up on a domain and charge the performers for you to remove the shitty depictions of them."

DukeSkywalker · 02-22-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Nothing is out of focus, it just the intent of some of the scenes didn't get realized. There's a Strappado scene where they just didn't crank the girl high enough and they just kept playing with her, but in a friendly way, not in a tormenting way - that was the problem in a couple of scenes. That instead of being tormented, the victim was being played with in a sensual way. Sensual is fine, but that's not the theme of the store.

In the early days when the guys weren't performing to the level I wanted, I'd carry a bamboo back scratcher in my back pocket & would crack their asses. Works well.
Ds

Bman · 02-22-2013, 11:35 AM

There is one thing I have learned being 10 years in this biz.
DOesnt matter how bad you think it is, how horrible it actually is, what the opinions of all the people are, whether or not you hate it....there is always somebody who will buy it.

People buy porn for the models. Not the technical or proficiency standards one believes their content should have.

NaughtyRob · 02-22-2013, 11:38 AM

You got that right Bman.

JustDaveXxx · 02-22-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock

Trash it and move on. Bad scenes reflect on your body of work and you don't want to be known for shooting bad scenes.

I agree.

Bad Scenes=Bad Rep

But if the director is on point and knows what he is doing, he can always get a Usable/Good scene out of lousy performers. (Years of editing my scenes that I shot taught me that)

But for some reason if the scene is starting to look bad before you get to the meat and potatoes of the scene, "KILL IT" and start again with performers that want to be there.

Been there, done all of the above. It always sucks that day, and it can be expensive, but nothing is worse than clients and prospective clients thinking that you are not a competent producer.

JustDaveXxx

02-21-2013, 10:53 AM	#1
RandyRandy Clips still sell! Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Crown Heights, Brooklyn Posts: 1,708	Content Shooters - What do you do with "bad" content? I'm new at shooting content, having recently shot scenes for a new clips4sale store I'm opening. Some of the scenes went just as I wanted and others came off lame, due to my own bad direction. I'm in the middle of editing right now and wondering - what do you guys do when you look at a scene and it's not at all like you wanted? Do you throw it away? Do you put it on the shelf? Do you use it anyway? Put it up on a tube site as promotional material (though using bad work for promotion strikes me as stupid)? Thanks and thanks for all the great information I've found on this site in the past year leading up to my first shoot!

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02-22-2013, 11:17 AM	#22
RandyRandy Clips still sell! Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Crown Heights, Brooklyn Posts: 1,708	Nothing is out of focus, it just the intent of some of the scenes didn't get realized. There's a Strappado scene where they just didn't crank the girl high enough and they just kept playing with her, but in a friendly way, not in a tormenting way - that was the problem in a couple of scenes. That instead of being tormented, the victim was being played with in a sensual way. Sensual is fine, but that's not the theme of the store.

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