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View Poll Results: Which Drug is WORSE? Meth or Heroin?
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Heroin.... 14 31.11%
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:51 AM   #51
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:58 AM   #52
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All drugs are the same... if you abuse them, you're gonna get fucked up... No drug is better than another. All are equally bad.

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I've done coke, meth, weed, cigarettes and alcohol... I only do weed and drink occasionally (down from $300-500/nights to $50 a month)
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no, not enough said.

show me where you've done that.
If you do not see the difference between average alcohol user and average meth user after 5 (or whatever number) years of using (both in physical appearance and social life changes) you are even more stupid than I thought
Actually I do not believbe anybody could be that stupid, so my conclusion is that you are just failing at trolling.
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:16 AM   #54
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Alcohol Worse Than Heroin
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(Newser) – Alcohol is more dangerous for humans than crack or heroin, according to a surprising assessment by a British drug expert. Professor David Nutt's scoring system ranked alcohol three times more harmful than cocaine or tobacco; ecstasy, mushrooms, and LSD were among the least harmful. The rankings were created based on input from experts, who scored substances based on harm caused to users as well as harm to others, reports the BBC.
Comprehend before posting irrelevant article:
Meth and heroin, and crack are most harmful to user according to that very survey you quote:
"The panel concluded that heroin, crack, and meth were the most harmful drugs to individuals".
Alcohol is more dangerous to society (like alcoholics do the most damage or stuff like that) is what they are saying.

We are talking about harm to user, not harm to society in this thread.

Not to mention that these findings were "found" to back anti booze campaigns. Grain of salt is needed

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If you do not see the difference between average alcohol user and average meth user after 5 (or whatever number) years of using (both in physical appearance and social life changes) you are even more stupid than I thought
Actually I do not believbe anybody could be that stupid, so my conclusion is that you are just failing at trolling.
right. so you pull shit out of your ass then tell me i'm a stupid troll.


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Comprehend before posting irrelevant article:
Meth and heroin, and crack is the most harmful to user according that very survey you quote.
Alcohol is more dangerous to society (like alcoholics do the most damage or stuff like that) is what they are saying.
Quit defending your alcoholism and get some help.


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Heroin has legitimate medical uses as a painkiller.

Meth serves no purpose whatsoever.
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Heroin has legitimate medical uses as a painkiller.

Meth serves no purpose whatsoever.
Meth actually did server a purpose for the Nazi's during the war in the 30's and 40's.
They used to give it to their troops to keep them awake and fighting for days on end under the trade name Pervtin. Even Hitler used meth back then.
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it is possible to use meth w/o any issues.. [occasionally on parties, or a little line to learn or work harder] Can't say the same about Heroin.
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:04 PM   #60
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All drugs are the same... if you abuse them, you're gonna get fucked up... No drug is better than another. All are equally bad.

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I've done coke, meth, weed, cigarettes and alcohol... I only do weed and drink occasionally (down from $300-500/nights to $50 a month)
so you've tried the 5 most common stuff and you KNOW that they are equal. Makes sense.

90% of the ppl posting in this thread know nothing about drugs, the vote results definitely confirm this.
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so you've tried the 5 most common stuff and you KNOW that they are equal. Makes sense.

90% of the ppl posting in this thread know nothing about drugs, the vote results definitely confirm this.
Are you seriously trying to justify that ANY drug is good?
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Meth actually did server a purpose for the Nazi's during the war in the 30's and 40's.
They used to give it to their troops to keep them awake and fighting for days on end under the trade name Pervtin. Even Hitler used meth back then.
thats sounds awesome....



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Are you seriously trying to justify that ANY drug is good?
i think he's trying to say he's better because he knows more about teh drugZ, so just shush.
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Are you seriously trying to justify that ANY drug is good?
I hate the expression 'drugs' btw.. Of course some of them are good!! Personally I can say that LSD was a game changer for me and all my psychedelic trips and experiences were and are taking a Great part in me turning to a better, more peaceful and way more open minded, etc. I don't regret any mushi, acid and other psychedelics I ever ate.

However I believe you know very little about this topic, I do understand the content of your question: you might think drugs are equal with physical stimulants which sooner or later do damage you or you might think all consuming drugs means you abuse yourself with your fav 'drug'. I can assure you that there Are chemicals which you can use 'occasionally' and they won't ever cause permanent harm to neither your soul and your body.
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Having witnessed the pain heroin addiction can cause to a family, that get my vote.

It's the nastiest drug on earth
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I hate the expression 'drugs' btw.. Of course some of them are good!! Personally I can say that LSD was a game changer for me and all my psychedelic trips and experiences were and are taking a Great part in me turning to a better, more peaceful and way more open minded, etc. I don't regret any mushi, acid and other psychedelics I ever ate.

However I believe you know very little about this topic, I do understand the content of your question: you might think drugs are equal with physical stimulants which sooner or later do damage you or you might think all consuming drugs means you abuse yourself with your fav 'drug'. I can assure you that there Are chemicals which you can use 'occasionally' and they won't ever cause permanent harm to neither your soul and your body.
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I hate the expression 'drugs' btw.. Of course some of them are good!! Personally I can say that LSD was a game changer for me and all my psychedelic trips and experiences were and are taking a Great part in me turning to a better, more peaceful and way more open minded, etc. I don't regret any mushi, acid and other psychedelics I ever ate.

However I believe you know very little about this topic, I do understand the content of your question: you might think drugs are equal with physical stimulants which sooner or later do damage you or you might think all consuming drugs means you abuse yourself with your fav 'drug'. I can assure you that there Are chemicals which you can use 'occasionally' and they won't ever cause permanent harm to neither your soul and your body.
This .. I love getting dosed up.. Psychs are a lot of fun and can really be a mind eye opener..
I've tried my hand at my fair share of drugs.. From opium to coke, LSD to bloomers.. I medicate everyday, though i really dont think that should be called a drug. Tried most scripts and other silly things like that.. E and molly as well.. Never done meth.. Though I can probably say that if I lived in Cali or somewhere out west I probably would have checked it out.. And I've never tried dope, and never will,I just had a first hand account of what it does to family and loved ones.. Not to mention the amount of friends I've had OD on the shit.

But I am a serious advocate for LSD and other psychs.. Just make sure you're in a good state of mind and around good people when doing it.
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Meth serves no purpose whatsoever.
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wow. i totally know nothing about either drugs and do not want to.

I guess this is a good thing ?
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Christ.. didn't know it could be prescribed for kids. Back in the 70's and 80's when kids had issues a doctor would tell parents it was just a growing phase and they would grow out of it. Now they have names for it including HIGHLY addictive drugs to treat the so call conditions. Would be a cold day in hell before I would let any doctor get my kids addicted to any type of medicine.
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wow. i totally know nothing about either drugs and do not want to.

I guess this is a good thing ?
Yes.. your naivety would be a very good thing. Drugs can be fun but addiction sucks.
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carry on careers with pill addictions.. as per the current convotrain of people who can carry on lives with heroin addictions
It was already mentioned but opiates lead to more opiates, and tolerance to opiates is developed fast. It's possible someone could carry on for awhile, sure, but a really super typical path for pills is popping, snorting, injecting... which typically leads to heroin or morphine.
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It was already mentioned but opiates lead to more opiates, and tolerance to opiates is developed fast. It's possible someone could carry on for awhile, sure, but a really super typical path for pills is popping, snorting, injecting... which typically leads to heroin or morphine.
popping a pill is a whole lot different than snorting one

you have a social norm of popping pills, and snorting a social stigmata.. so your 'gateway' idea is not a good argument
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you have a social norm of popping pills, and snorting a social stigmata.. so your 'gateway' idea is not a good argument
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I would say Heroin is better than Meth because death is a very effective cure for drug addiction and Heroin seems to cure its users more quickly.
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Prescription Drugs Now Kill More People In The US Than Heroin And Cocaine Combined

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of course, and not just because more people use them, but because they are better/stronger consistently.
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Meth by far! at least for the general public,

Meth heads are active and have energy and always trying tweeker projects they want to do even though they never finish them. They are annoying as fuck.

heroin is a lonely drug and most people lock themselves in the house and dont bother anyone till they die.
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Alchohol is the worst, only withdrawal other than benzos that can kill you, plus it fucks your brain up and your organs fast. Heroin is not even that bad for you, shooting up is, whatever you shoot. Shooting up causes lots of problems. Never fucked with meth, but that shit is toxic one of the main ingredients if drano. Haven't drank in 3.5 years now, no fucking AA either, since I hate cults and religion.
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Are we talking about crystal? Or methadone..?
Only a complete idiot would ask that question.
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Only a complete idiot would ask that question.
Now is that really necessary? If you read any of the posts I wrote here you could see both A) I'm not an idiot, and B) I obviously knew which meth he was talking about.. But on the off chance it was the other, I wouldn't have looked like a complete fool because I asked.. But thanks though..
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Which is worse?

Don't know about the users, but on the rest of us I'd say Meth.

Only hassle I ever had with Heroin users was the old couple that lived upstairs from us. Occasionally a 2 a.m. customer mixed up his directions got our door by mistake. I'd just point them on their way to the promised land. Others I knew always seemed mellow.

Meth in Missouri, now you have to sign off when you sell a house it was never a Meth lab. Seems every few weeks some Meth idiot wants to get aggressive with me or someone nearby. You can be at a traffic light and one will pull up and want to pick a fight just because they don't like your car. I have known some mellow ones, but they are definitely in the minority.
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Now is that really necessary? If you read any of the posts I wrote here you could see both A) I'm not an idiot, and B) I obviously knew which meth he was talking about.. But on the off chance it was the other, I wouldn't have looked like a complete fool because I asked.. But thanks though..
ummm, it was your first comment; you were the 19th response and it was pretty obvious what was being discussed. Besides, who ever called methadone meth?

Besides you that is.

And the answer to that question is methadone is worse than heroin.
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Now is that really necessary? If you read any of the posts I wrote here you could see both A) I'm not an idiot, and B) I obviously knew which meth he was talking about.. But on the off chance it was the other, I wouldn't have looked like a complete fool because I asked.. But thanks though..
Do hardcore dopers even use the term meth for methadone? Not usually, they are they more likely to refer to it as 'done or juice.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:55 PM   #93
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Do hardcore dopers even use the term meth for methadone?
Does anyone?
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:59 PM   #94
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ummm, it was your first comment; you were the 19th response and it was pretty obvious what was being discussed.
In my defense when I hit the reply button the 6 comments above me were not there and the conversation hadn't really started.. I was typing on my phone and I have fumbly thumbs :p

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Besides, who ever called methadone meth?

Besides you that is.
You're absolutely right, this should have been a dead give away.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:02 PM   #96
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In my defense when I hit the reply button the 6 comments above me were not there and the conversation hadn't really started.. I was typing on my phone and I have fumbly thumbs :p



You're absolutely right, this should have been a dead give away.
Forgiven; don't let it happen again.

Your sig might have more benefit going to http://whatporntube.com/webmasters/ No?

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Old 06-04-2013, 09:19 PM   #97
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Forgiven; don't let it happen again.

Your sig might have more benefit going to (not enough posts for urls :/ )
Lol, nah I actually just junked that page. I'm gonna make my own template for it and start fresh with it once I learn a little more. When I figure out the proper ins and outs of traffic trading then I'm gonna need it, right now I feel like I would just be wasting peoples time :p
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