Survey: How many facts about the Zimmerman Case do You know?

[jigg]

A lot less than I thought I knew
http://www.dlas.org/questions-zimmerman-verdict/

[mineistaken]

In before "innocent child" @Rochard

[mineistaken]

I can not fully understand this African English:

MARTIN: Cause man dat nigga snitched on me
FRIEND: Bae y you always fightinqq man, you got suspended?
MARTIN: Naw we thumped afta skool in a duckd off spot
FRIEND: Ohh, Well Damee
MARTIN: I lost da 1st round but won da 2nd nd 3rd ...
FRIEND: Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting bae Forreal
MARTIN: Nay im not done with fool... he gone hav 2 see me again
FRIEND: Nooo... Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?
MARTIN: Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose

[24/7 Blogging Crew]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I can not fully understand this African English:

MARTIN: Cause man dat nigga snitched on me
FRIEND: Bae y you always fightinqq man, you got suspended?
MARTIN: Naw we thumped afta skool in a duckd off spot
FRIEND: Ohh, Well Damee
MARTIN: I lost da 1st round but won da 2nd nd 3rd ...
FRIEND: Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting bae Forreal
MARTIN: Nay im not done with fool... he gone hav 2 see me again
FRIEND: Nooo... Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?
MARTIN: Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose

[TheSquealer]

Stupid is the new cool. It's the one thing in all of this that everyone should be outraged about.

[Mutt]

Why did the judge not allow the text messages with the friend about Martin's thug attitude and the fight with the guy who wasn't black enough for his liking?

If I was on the fence as a jury member that evidence would have been very important to me since Zimmerman's defense was the kid punched him and then put him on the ground. That text conversation sure shows Trayvon Martin to be a punk whom I could easily believe rather than running home from a guy following him would turn around and walk back to confront his follower. With the evidence that was presented in the trial I may have like Rochard and others decided that this was just an average kid on his way back home from the candy store therefore Zimmerman must have provoked the violence. Even if that was how I felt I'd still have been compelled to find him not guilty because there was plenty of reasonable doubt cast on the prosecution's case.

There were no riots, I think many black people saw this case the same way most reasonable saw it.

[SuckOnThis]

Could that survey be any more skewed towards Zimmerman? It covers every little thing Martin did wrong in his past and mentions/asks nothing about Zimmermans past. WTF

[winter_]

i used to work with a zimmerman, he was billy corgan with a crewcut.

[Robbie]

I only know ONE fact: Rochard's opinion on the case is 100% wrong. lol

[escorpio]

I know a crazed racist chased down a black child and shot him for liking Skittles.


Thanks for keeping me informed, Rochard.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by escorpio

I know a crazed racist chased down a black child and shot him for liking Skittles.


Thanks for keeping me informed, Rochard.

Don't forget he STALKED him first before chasing the small black child down and murdering him like an animal.

You need to pay closer attention to what Rochard says.

(if only GZ had just laid down on the ground and let that sweet little black child give him love taps with his tiny balled up fists and NOT murdered him...then GZ would be a "hero" after somebody saw it and came to his rescue)

[Markul]

We need more threads about this case. Also more polls would be cool.

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I can not fully understand this African English:

MARTIN: Cause man dat nigga snitched on me
FRIEND: Bae y you always fightinqq man, you got suspended?
MARTIN: Naw we thumped afta skool in a duckd off spot
FRIEND: Ohh, Well Damee
MARTIN: I lost da 1st round but won da 2nd nd 3rd ...
FRIEND: Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting bae Forreal
MARTIN: Nay im not done with fool... he gone hav 2 see me again
FRIEND: Nooo... Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?
MARTIN: Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose

I try not to get too emotionally charged regarding politics or political matters, but it sure feels like some alternate universe we're living in when the President of the United States publically states that the person in this conversation could have been him 35 years ago. That's just weird.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Why did the judge not allow the text messages with the friend about Martin's thug attitude and the fight with the guy who wasn't black enough for his liking?

Because it was not in any way relevant to that particular evening.

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Could that survey be any more skewed towards Zimmerman? It covers every little thing Martin did wrong in his past and mentions/asks nothing about Zimmermans past. WTF

Undoubtedly.

[Scott McD]

Are any protests still going on over there about this ??

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Are any protests still going on over there about this ??

They only occur around the 1st and 15th of the month.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Are any protests still going on over there about this ??

Just tune into GFY for the hourly updates.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I can not fully understand this African English:

MARTIN: Cause man dat nigga snitched on me
FRIEND: Bae y you always fightinqq man, you got suspended?
MARTIN: Naw we thumped afta skool in a duckd off spot
FRIEND: Ohh, Well Damee
MARTIN: I lost da 1st round but won da 2nd nd 3rd ...
FRIEND: Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting bae Forreal
MARTIN: Nay im not done with fool... he gone hav 2 see me again
FRIEND: Nooo... Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?
MARTIN: Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose

this is Obama has a young man or his kid

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Mutt

I may have like Rochard and others decided that this was just an average kid on his way back home from the candy store.

and just happened to be walking though the middle of a "PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITY' at night... yeah... could happen...

[nexcom28]

Zimmerman murdered someone = fact

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

and just happened to be walking though the middle of a "PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITY' at night... yeah... could happen...

at 7 pm walking to his fathers house.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by nexcom28

Zimmerman murdered someone = fact

You need to learn the difference between an opinion and a fact.

Originally Posted by tony286

at 7 pm walking to his fathers house.

And circled around to confront GZ.

[Naughty-Pages]

Most of that stuff was discussed during the trial on HLN.. but that survey was beyond skewed towards Zimmerman's favor.. lol

The head wounds he had were so minor it was laughable.. I shave my head and trust me, one tiny scrape and it bleeds for hours.. one tiny bump on the head and a lump pops up.. Without hair to cover the minor bumps or help clot the cuts, it always looks bad, but I get marks and bumps like that on a good drinking night just by walking around. lol And what kind of neighborhood watch captain doesn't know the name of one of the only three streets in his own community, and does not realize the houses (which are all identical to his own) have the house number on the front of them? lmfao

If I were on the jury, I'd have found him not guilty because the prosecution did such a poor job.. but that doesn't mean I think he was innocent, there were so many inconsistencies in his "stories".. If someone was following me through my gated community to my house, I'd be ready to beat the fuck out of them..

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

and just happened to be walking though the middle of a "PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITY' at night... yeah... could happen...

ummm.. he was staying there with his father and his father's fiancé .. lmfao..

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by nexcom28

Zimmerman murdered someone = fact

No he killed someone. Not murdered.
Fact
Ds

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by tony286

at 7 pm walking to his fathers house.

His fathers now ex-girlfriends place. Not his fathers. Doesn't mean anything...but you keep saying stuff that ain't exactly the truth.

The only reason he was there was because he had been suspended from school and his mom sent him there to see if his dad could do anything with him.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Could that survey be any more skewed towards Zimmerman? It covers every little thing Martin did wrong in his past and mentions/asks nothing about Zimmermans past. WTF

Why? It explains 3 most popular misconceptions:

1. why Zimmy confronted the thug. Not because of skittles, but because he was wondering through private home lawns and looking at windows during the night etc. It was 100% clear that something was not right. Anyone could made the same call if they saw that. Watch the video. So that explains why he confronted him. 100% legit.

2. Racism angle. Cleared 100%.

3. If shooting was justified - he was scared for his life, 100% justified.


Three most important things that some morons did not understand. If they talked about Zimmys past that still would not change those 3 most important things.

Of and for some it explains how that thug was "innocent child". Thats #4 for Rochard
But again - fact that Travon was a criminal thug is not even that important in this case as the 1,2 and 3.

[Robbie]

NO!

Don't you watch MSNBC??? For God's sake!

Zimmerman STALKED that black toddler after profiling him because of his skin color and then laughed as he shot him down like an animal.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Robbie

His fathers now ex-girlfriends place. Not his fathers. Doesn't mean anything...but you keep saying stuff that ain't exactly the truth.

The only reason he was there was because he had been suspended from school and his mom sent him there to see if his dad could do anything with him.

So? I made a mistake. He was where he was supposed to be, no matter who owned the house he is was going to. He wasnt wandering just thru some neighborhood.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Why? It explains 3 most popular misconceptions:

1. why Zimmy confronted the thug. Not because of skittles, but because he was wondering through private home lawns and looking at windows during the night etc. It was 100% clear that something was not right. Anyone could made the same call if they saw that. Watch the video. So that explains why he confronted him. 100% legit.
.

He was doing all these things and getting ready to jump out from a bush while on the phone talking ? Makes perfect sense to me lol

[nexcom28]

Originally Posted by baddog

You need to learn the difference between an opinion and a fact.

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

No he killed someone. Not murdered.
Fact
Ds

Please explain the difference. You shoot someone with a firearm it should either be manslaughter or murder.

Maybe it was manslaughter and he didn't mean to kill?
Either way he should have served time.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by nexcom28

Please explain the difference. You shoot someone with a firearm it should either be manslaughter or murder.

Maybe it was manslaughter and he didn't mean to kill?
Either way he should have served time.

NO....

You can Legally Defend yourself with DEADLY Force........

[nexcom28]

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

NO....

You can Legally Defend yourself with DEADLY Force........

Pah!! Only in America

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by tony286

He was doing all these things and getting ready to jump out from a bush while on the phone talking ? Makes perfect sense to me lol

Just pointing it out.

That is probably something that haunts his parents to this day. What if Mom hadn't sent him to Dad? What if Trayvon hadn't gotten suspended? What if Dad or his girlfriend had been there to take him to the store...

The list of "what if's" can drive you nuts, especially when you lose a family member.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Just pointing it out.

That is probably something that haunts his parents to this day. What if Mom hadn't sent him to Dad? What if Trayvon hadn't gotten suspended? What if Dad or his girlfriend had been there to take him to the store...

The list of "what if's" can drive you nuts, especially when you lose a family member.

I agree with you. Dont fall off your chair. lol

[baddog]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Why? It explains 3 most popular misconceptions:

1. why Zimmy confronted the thug.

No, TM confronted GZ as he was walking back to his car.

Originally Posted by tony286

So? I made a mistake. He was where he was supposed to be, no matter who owned the house he is was going to. He wasnt wandering just thru some neighborhood.

He did however decide to come around and confront GZ instead of just going to his dad's.

Originally Posted by nexcom28

Please explain the difference. You shoot someone with a firearm it should either be manslaughter or murder.

Maybe it was manslaughter and he didn't mean to kill?
Either way he should have served time.

This is a perfect example. When you say "it should either be manslaughter or murder" that is an opinion. What country do you live in that you will go to prison for defending yourself?

Originally Posted by nexcom28

Pah!! Only in America

Really? If someone attacks you with a knife and you fight back and kill them, you would go to prison?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by tony286

I agree with you. Dont fall off your chair. lol

Damn it too late! I already fell off of it.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by nexcom28

Pah!! Only in America

Not my fault your country has stupid laws...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by tony286

at 7 pm walking to his fathers house.

Tony everyday you should get on your knees and thank fucking Jesus that Sharpton didn't tell you the earth was flat... because you would really be fighting up hill then

[tony286]

Originally Posted by baddog

No, TM confronted GZ as he was walking back to his car.



He did however decide to come around and confront GZ instead of just going to his dad's.

Did anyone see TM confront GZ or we just take GZ's word? GZ who went to school and studied the stand your ground law and lied about it. This education would give him a good idea on how to shape a story. Dont cha think? GZ who has no problem with lying and problems with violence in the past. Yep we should take what he said as gospel.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

Tony everyday you should get on your knees and thank fucking Jesus that Sharpton didn't tell you the earth was flat... because you would really be fighting up hill then

no I just know how to think for myself. It was 7pm not the middle of the night. Thats court record.

[arock10]

I don't care about TM or GZ, I do care about all the crazies running around with guns. It's entirely too easy for a situation like this to happen again and have someone die due to way too relaxed gun control laws

Nothing to do with racism etc etc. all to do with America's silly obsession with having way too many guns

[nexcom28]

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Not my fault your country has stupid laws...

You know, I could buy it if it was in your own home or business but on the street

Serial killers must be rubbing there hands together..

[baddog]

Originally Posted by tony286

no I just know how to think for myself. It was 7pm not the middle of the night. Thats court record.

No one said or suggested it was the middle of the night; it was a dark and rainy night. FACT.

[theking]

Originally Posted by tony286

Did anyone see TM confront GZ or we just take GZ's word? GZ who went to school and studied the stand your ground law and lied about it. This education would give him a good idea on how to shape a story. Dont cha think? GZ who has no problem with lying and problems with violence in the past. Yep we should take what he said as gospel.

Outside of the fact that you are spewing forth misinformation/lies...about Zimmerman...you don't have to take the word of Zimmerman...as the girl Martin was talking to...on the phone... stated/testified that it was Martin that confronted Zimmerman...now don't you look the fool?

[tony286]

Originally Posted by theking

Outside of the fact that you are spewing forth misinformation/lies...about Zimmerman...you don't have to take the word of Zimmerman...as the girl Martin was talking to...on the phone... stated/testified that it was Martin that confronted Zimmerman...now don't you look the fool?

yep im a fool. feel better?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by theking

.now don't you look the fool?

Every Zimmerman hater looks more like a fool every day when they find out more and more information.

For some it would be manly enough to say something like that:

I was a fool at first because I did not have all the information and just posted based on emotions, but now I agree that:
Zimmy is not a racist and did not profile thug because of his skin
Zimmy was 100% correct to think that something was very suspicious and was correct to call 911. decent citizen behavior 100%.
Zimmy shot the thug because thug was beating him hard and Zimmy was 100% scared for his life.

Anybody is man enough to say "I was wrong" ?

[winter_]

we need to come to some kind of understanding as to why these things happen. you might have it there with your point poster above.

what is a man going to do when you are confronted by teenagers, human beings, who think of themselves as animals, such as trayvon martin.

then one has on the other hand rob zimmerman. he was probably a neo-nazi brown panther, the same sort of pinay power diatribe who also hate others who have darker skin than theirs but all are heavily involved in the same sick pop culture of illuminati. this is very real, and those people are the lowest of the low.

the best of blacks today such as jay-z, kanye west, they don't represent the average black american anymore, they represent a power elite and have done so for a long time. on second thought, they never did. they only were out for themselves and those who they immediately cared about.

this could have been all kept under the carpet but the racist media decided to run with it, the race war in the united states is nothing new.

[Robbie]

I just bet that if George Zimmerman had been a WOMAN and Trayvon Martin (or ANY race of young man) had jumped on her and began beating her and she shot him dead in self defense...This whole story would be a LOT different.