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Old 09-03-2013, 11:09 AM   #1
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Adult Performer Rod Daily Admits He is HIV+



Rod Daily posted on his Twitter today that he is indeed HIV+:

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Drumroll please!! I'm 32 years old and I'm HIV positive. Acute HIV, which means I recently was infected. For that I am blessed
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I'm blessed for the fact that I caught it so early that I can blast that shit with meds.
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With the tests I have done the doctors have figured out that I was infected within the last month.
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My antibodies just showed up on a test this week which is scary because they didn't a week ago.
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I have also learned that people can be so well medicated that they test negative. Scary, the test everyone relies on.
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I have never backed down from a fight and I'm owning my shit right here like I have always owned my shit in life.
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That does not change anything though. A week later people are back at it shooting without condoms.
Waiting to hear what the FSC has to say now...



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gay for pay dudes spreading the disease again..
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:31 AM   #4
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Not sure you are correct, and in any case, it's about way more than G4P at this point... We really need to come up with a comprehensive strategy for all adult performers, straight, gay, bi, crossovers, and everything in between.



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That does not change anything though. A week later people are back at it shooting without condoms.
Speaking of condoms, Rod, I don't see any on the front page of your website: http://www.roddaily.com. Didn't your members like them?

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Sorry to hear that. Life changer for sure.

Looking forward to the FSC spin to justify their "all clear" message they gave before his results were in.
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Sorry to hear that. Life changer for sure.

Looking forward to the FSC spin to justify their "all clear" message they gave before his results were in.
And Peter and the FSC should answer this while they are at it:

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FSC Board Member, and Kink CEO, Peter Acworth, please explain this:

Peter Acworth responded to some of the recent HIV controversy on Mike South's blog by clarifying Kink's policies, but it appears he may have opened up another can of worms in the process.

Quoting Peter Acworth (Kink CEO, and FSC Board Member):

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For kink.com?s gay sites, all shoots are condom-mandatory. On the straight side, we only work with performers shown cleared for work in the PASS (formerly APHSS) database. This means they have tested negative for a slate of STIs in the last 30 days, including HIV via the highly sensitive RNA test.
I'm amazed that Peter would make this claim, especially when Rod Daily's name is so fresh in everyone's minds.

Peter stated that all gay sites (scenes) require condoms.

This is either false or very misleading, since we have a Kink video of one person's penis fucking a man in the ass, and then ejaculating onto the man's face/mouth (there are several such examples, I am focusing on this one because of it's relevance to the current HIV issue).

Here is Rod Daily's Kink profile:


http://www.kink.com/k/model/47872-Rod-Daily.html

Rod Daily's Kink profile photo shows him engaged in unprotected TS sex, taking a a load of sperm ejaculate on his face in a scene for Kink dated August 1st (Rod Daily's last clean test was dated July 10th - I'm not sure what the last test date was for the TS, or if Kink even required the TS to be tested, since apparently Peter defines his TS site as not gay, otherwise he would require them to wear condoms).

What you clearly see taking place, is Rod Daily performing for Kink, and engaging in unprotected activity that many if not most people would consider gay (or definitely something other than straight male-female hetro sex).

I'm not going to argue semantics as to whether a TS is a man, a woman, or a hybrid (and I have no issue with anyone's legal sexual preference).

To the layman, when a person with a penis shoots a load of cum into another guy's face/mouth, after butt-fucking him, that falls into the category of gay sex, at least for the sake of discussing the transmission of body fluids.

There are many such Kink scenes, but I think the point is driven home clearly and unequivocally by the Kink picture of Rod Daily taking an unprotected load to his face.

The FSC, and it's Board Members, have a real problem on their hands, and it is not just about HIV, it goes to the core of their credibility and whether they can be trusted.
I need to get off the computer I am so pissed off right now!



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And Peter and the FSC should answer this while they are at it:

I need to get off the computer I am so pissed off right now!



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This just begs the same question a lot of us are asking: why are gay performers working in straight scenes? Why can't the directors/producers/photographers etc., who work on the straight side of the adult industry commit to not hiring gay men in future?

I'll take that pledge.
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This just begs the same question a lot of us are asking: why are gay performers working in straight scenes? Why can't the directors/producers/photographers etc., who work on the straight side of the adult industry commit to not hiring gay men in future?

I'll take that pledge.
I do not think its that easy.. You also have "straight" male performers who do gay privates and female performers who also are with "gay" males in personal life and/or doing privates themselves. Just because someone does not do something on camera does not mean they are not behind closed doors.

I also do not think Rod is on record of doing any straight scenes during this timeframe so your commitment would not have helped anything.
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Speaking of condoms, Rod, I don't see any on the front page of your website: http://www.roddaily.com. Didn't your members like them?
You also don't see any penetration. NDS is condom only and requires tests.

In fact, unless it is unreleased and nobody knows about it, Rod Daily has never filmed a gay bareback scene.
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Sorry to hear that. Life changer for sure.

Looking forward to the FSC spin to justify their "all clear" message they gave before his results were in.
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In fact, unless it is unreleased and nobody knows about it, Rod Daily has never filmed a gay bareback scene.
Thanks for the info... that makes me feel a whole lot better.



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Not sure you are correct, and in any case, it's about way more than G4P at this point... We really need to come up with a comprehensive strategy for all adult performers, straight, gay, bi, crossovers, and everything in between.
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Thanks for the info... that makes me feel a whole lot better.



It's funny how it goes from "it hasn't been proven you can get HIV from a facial" to "well since he didn't shoot gay anal bareback... and we need to pin it on him... look at this!"

The straight side will just blame it on him even though he's spent his entire 8 year career shooting condom only so that they can continue to shoot bareback.

We should probably also ignore the fact that his girlfriend tested positive before him. Makes it easier to justify, right?
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Sad but true. I fear what is next.
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I think I saw someone post a Rod's RentBoy ad?
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Rod works for one of the few responsible companies out there, Nextdoor, not some gutter operation. They require performers to wear rubbers. From what I remember, they don't even allow known HIV+ performers to do anything but solo work, they also required regular HIV testing per the tweets he posted of his tests from Talent Testing Service

He apparently escorted on the side, at least in 2011, but this review from a client from 2011 show he's not irresponsible either:

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He's long been one of my fantasies and I couldn't pass the opportunity up. In person, looks just like his pics, on his own website and his videos -- very hot. Pleasant guy but not interactive. Doesn't kiss. Didn't get at all hard. Gives oral only after a condom went on. Gives good head otherwise and was a willing bottom. Wouldn't be worth a second go round. We finished a while before an hour was up, and I thought we were having a nice chat, but I no sooner had my clothes on and he was shaking my hand and almost pushing me out the door.
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Why in the world would you say "EVEN" in the above sentence? Are you implying that there are other gay companies that do allow HIV-positive performers to do more than solos??
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It's funny how it goes from "it hasn't been proven you can get HIV from a facial" to "well since he didn't shoot gay anal bareback... and we need to pin it on him... look at this!"

The straight side will just blame it on him even though he's spent his entire 8 year career shooting condom only so that they can continue to shoot bareback.

We should probably also ignore the fact that his girlfriend tested positive before him. Makes it easier to justify, right?
I think someone posted an add for him being a Male escort, and for an extra $$$ it is bareback for several escorts...

What % of Men get aids from a female??
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Sorry to hear that. Life changer for sure.

Looking forward to the FSC spin to justify their "all clear" message they gave before his results were in.
Sadly and I hate to sound like I am defending them, but he clearly says 1 week it was negative and the next it was positive. MAYBE the release slipped in between??
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this is very interesting in some ways... 1. there was never any doubt about the outcome to most of us and 2. Cameron did NOT get exposed to HIV on a porn set... which is how the story is being portaged by AHF, the politically motivated and the media as well as the usual GFY haters... and third... this is a shame for those infected and I only wish them the best

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I think someone posted an add for him being a Male escort, and for an extra $$$ it is bareback for several escorts...

What % of Men get aids from a female??
non that I'm personally aware of...
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It's funny how it goes from "it hasn't been proven you can get HIV from a facial" to "well since he didn't shoot gay anal bareback... and we need to pin it on him... look at this!"

The straight side will just blame it on him even though he's spent his entire 8 year career shooting condom only so that they can continue to shoot bareback.

We should probably also ignore the fact that his girlfriend tested positive before him. Makes it easier to justify, right?
If Cameron took her HIV test on a date earlier than Rod, then of course she would have tested positive before him (which was why we heard about her case first). That doesn't mean Cameron passed HIV to Rod, it could still be that he passed it to her (no one definitively knows what happened yet, and how Rod/Cameron caught the HIV virus in the first place). The answer to the question where the HIV infection came from still needs to be determined.

That is why I find it odd that Peter Acworth would state so assertively:

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I haven't blamed anyone, or said who caused whom to get the HIV virus in this instance. Nonetheless, I believe that it is important to understand where the HIV infection came from in the first place, since I believe that we can all agree that the HIV infection didn't come out of nowhere.

Anyway, I am more concerned that some at Kink are suggesting that people cannot contract HIV through oral sex. That is false according to the Center for Disease Control.

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Obviously we are all very sad to hear of Rod Daily's positive HIV test result. It must have taken a lot of courage to publicly announce his result.

In clarification to the questions brought up here:

1) Kink.com classifies TS shoots as straight shoots, thus requiring PASS tests for all performers. On the TS Seduction shoot of August 1, both Rod and his scene partner in question were marked as available in the PASS system, meaning they had tested negative.

2) Condoms were used in this TS Seduction shoot for all penetrative sex.

3) Aubrey, the TS performer in this shoot, has tested negative again in PASS twice since this time.

4) At kink.com, the Gay (I.e. male/male material aimed at a gay male audience) side of the industry is indeed condom-only for all penetrative sex. This requirement does not cover oral which carries a negligible risk for HIV transmission. But as with all Kink shoots, even something like oral is negotiated in advance by the performers.
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Like all sexual activity, oral sex carries some risk of HIV transmission when one partner is known to be infected with HIV, when either partner?s HIV status is not known, and/or when one partner is not monogamous or injects drugs.

Even though the risk of transmitting HIV through oral sex is much lower than that of anal or vaginal sex, numerous studies have demonstrated that oral sex can result in the transmission of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs).

Abstaining from oral, anal, and vaginal sex altogether or having sex only with a mutually monogamous, uninfected partner are the only ways that individuals can be completely protected from the sexual transmission of HIV. However, by using condoms or other barriers between the mouth and genitals, individuals can reduce their risk of contracting HIV or another STD through oral sex.

Oral Sex is a Common Practice

Oral sex involves giving or receiving oral stimulation (i.e., sucking or licking) to the penis, the vagina, and/or the anus. Fellatio is the technical term used to describe oral contact with the penis. Cunnilingus is the technical term which describes oral contact with the vagina. Anilingus (sometimes called ?rimming?) refers to oral-anal contact.

Studies indicate that oral sex is commonly practiced by sexually active male-female and same-gender couples of various ages, including adolescents. Although there are only limited national data about how often adolescents engage in oral sex, some data suggest that many adolescents who engage in oral sex do not consider it to be ?sex;? therefore they may use oral sex as an option to experience sex while still, in their minds, remaining abstinent. Moreover, many consider oral sex to be a safe or no-risk sexual practice.

In a national survey of teens conducted for The Kaiser Family Foundation, 26% of sexually active 15- to 17-year-olds surveyed responded that one ?cannot become infected with HIV by having unprotected oral sex,? and an additional 15% didn?t know whether or not one could become infected in that manner.

Oral Sex and the Risk of HIV Transmission

The risk of HIV transmission from an infected partner through oral sex is much less than the risk of HIV transmission from anal or vaginal sex. Measuring the exact risk of HIV transmission as a result of oral sex is very difficult.

Additionally, because most sexually active individuals practice oral sex in addition to other forms of sex, such as vaginal and/or anal sex, when transmission occurs, it is difficult to determine whether or not it occurred as a result of oral sex or other more risky sexual activities.

Finally, several co-factors may increase the risk of HIV transmission through oral sex, including: oral ulcers, bleeding gums, genital sores, and the presence of other STDs. What is known is that HIV has been transmitted through fellatio, cunnilingus, and anilingus.

Other STDs Can Also Be Transmitted From Oral Sex

In addition to HIV, other STDs can be transmitted through oral sex with an infected partner. Examples of these STDs include herpes, syphilis, gonorrhea, genital warts (HPV), intestinal parasites (amebiasis), and hepatitis A.

Oral Sex and Reducing the Risk of HIV Transmission

The consequences of HIV infection are life-long. If treatment is not initiated in a timely manner, HIV can be extremely serious and life threatening. However, there are steps you can take to lower the risk of getting HIV from oral sex.

Generally, the use of a physical barrier during oral sex can reduce the risk of transmission of HIV and other STDs. A latex or plastic condom may be used on the penis to reduce the risk of oral-penile transmission.

If your partner is a female, a cut-open condom or a dental dam can be used between your mouth and the vagina. Similarly, regardless of the sex of your partner, if your mouth will come in contact with your partner?s anus, a cut-open condom or dental dam can be used between your mouth and the anus.

At least one scientific article has suggested that plastic food wrap may be used as a barrier to protect against herpes simplex virus during oral-vaginal or oral-anal sex. However, there are no data regarding the effectiveness of plastic food wrap in decreasing transmission of HIV and other STDs in this manner and it is not manufactured or approved by the FDA for this purpose.


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I think I saw someone post a Rod's RentBoy ad?


Here is an escort ad for Aubrey, the TS that Kink hired to buttfuck Rod and then shoot a load of cum in Rod Daily's face:

TS PornStar Aubrey Kate

Before FSC or anyone tries to tell you it may be a fake ad, check out Aubrey's website where she posts about her new Eros ad photos (same pix):

http://aubreykatexxx.com/

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September 1, 2013 in Blogging by aubrey

I just finished up doing a personal shoot for myself. To have promo pictures for my Eros ad. So I thought I would share them with you guys! I hope you all enjoy!!!
According to her website, Aubrey is brand new to the industry. She is not new to escorting though (at least according to TER, an escort review site, which shows entries about Aubrey Kate escorting at least since January 2011):

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewAll.asp?MessageID=75902&boardID=19&page=2&view =2

Kink claims Aubrey was tested negative before the scene with Rod, and twice afterwards, again negative. Given all that I have heard in recent days about HIV+ people being able to show up negative on the industry HIV tests if they are taking anti-HIV drugs, I would certainly look a little closer at this person's blood work, if this is true.

If there a test to determine if a person is taking some sort of HIV inhibitor or something else which is causing a false negative, then maybe the adult testing clinics need to look into that to test new people coming into the industry, as well as periodic/random tests, because if the tests can't be trusted, that is a big case for switching to condoms only.



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Why in the world would you say "EVEN" in the above sentence? Are you implying that there are other gay companies that do allow HIV-positive performers to do more than solos??
yes there are other gay companies who allow HIV+ performers to do more than solos
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:41 AM   #31
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Sadly and I hate to sound like I am defending them, but he clearly says 1 week it was negative and the next it was positive. MAYBE the release slipped in between??
maybe it's not a true statement?
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yes there are other gay companies who allow HIV+ performers to do more than solos
A good article about that in Queerty:

http://www.queerty.com/if-you-say-yo...rite-20110213/





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UPDATE: Peter Acworth apologizes for his comment that Rod Daily likely infected Cameron Bay

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Kink.com’s heterosexual CEO Peter Acworth has told the San Francisco Chronicle that it was Rod Daily, a gay porn performer who always wore condoms, who infected his girlfriend Cameron Bay, a straight porn performer who never wore condoms, with HIV. I guess it’s time for a moratorium on all gay porn productions then, right?

Acworth, who was arrested last year for cocaine possession, also tells the Chronicle that he has “confidence” there was no HIV transmission on set. Well, of course there wasn’t. No one in straight porn can have HIV! (Until now, of course, but it was the gay guy’s fault).

Gosh, with everything Peter Acworth is so certain of about HIV transmission, it’s truly a shame that he’s wasting his talents as the CEO of an S&M porn studio and not working as an infectious disease doctor.

Daily performed mostly in gay scenes, Acworth said. The industry standard is for actors in gay scenes to wear condoms to protect against transmission of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases. Condoms are optional for actors in straight scenes, but testing is mandatory.

“We can say with some degree of confidence that there was no transmission on set” involving Daily, Acworth said. “Rod Daily wore condoms in all his scenes. The strong indication is that Rod contracted it and transmitted it to Cameron Bay.”

Strong indication? While Bay tested HIV-positive over two weeks ago, Daily’s initial test around the same time came back negative. It wasn’t until his more recent follow-up test, Daily claims, that HIV antibodies were present. The strong indication to me, based on the timeline and the evidence, is that Daily—whose gay porn performances have always been with condoms—became infected after Bay, but then again I’m not the straight CEO of a major porn studio blindly and illogically speculating to a major newspaper about how the gay performer obviously infected the straight performer with HIV, so what do I know?

And you thought anonymous people on Twitter hurling anti-gay hate speech was bad.
http://thesword.com/kink-com-ceo-rod...o-cameron.html



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UPDATE: Kink’s Peter Acworth has posted a comment below in response to the Chronicle interview:

I had quite a long conversation with this Chronicle reporter only hours after Rod had come out positive on twitter.

I was ill prepared and the quotes the reporter chose were selective. If indeed I was accurately quoted, I should have thought more carefully about what to say. I am sorry to Rod and Cameron if they are offended. It must have taken a great deal of courage for both of them to come out as they did in a selfless act to protect others.

In defense of my other comments, it is true to say that Rod performed only in condom scenes at kink.com, and it is also true that everyone who performed with Cameron have since tested negative via the most sensitive RNA tests. I believe it is a fair assessment to say with a strong degree of confidence that no transmission took place on set.

As to how the transmissions actually took place, you are absolutely correct that is none of my business and it is disrespectful to speculate, and I am sorry I did.

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Peter is still clinging to his "strong degree of confidence" claim, that no HIV transmission took place on set, although I suspect it may be more wishful thinking than science supporting his claim.

Did Peter and everyone at the FSC just give up on trying to identify how two performers in the adult industry came up HIV+, since no one else has tested HIV positive (yet)?

I don't think that it should be impossible to narrow the possibilities down to a handful, and if everyone is being truthful, to then get to an answer, and perhaps then the adult industry could actually learn something from this incident (other than how dysfunctional the industry is).

Everyone seems to be in a cover-your-ass mode (or rather cover their financial interests mode), however, the FSC Board is naive if they think that this is all going to blow over if no else tests positive anytime soon.

It's way too late for that...the FSC totally mishandled this current HIV outbreak, for all of the wrong reasons. In particular how they have handled Cameron and Rod differently (and they should have had a plan in place for when Rod's test came back positive, as many people not at the FSC correctly presumed that it might).

Well, hopefully a new adult industry organization will emerge that puts performer health and safety before profits and egos. We could sure use one.



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Well, hopefully a new adult industry organization will emerge that puts performer health and safety before profits and egos.
You'd think that after all the clusterfucks the FSC has created or exacerbated--and particularly after the Mr. Marcus debacle last year--LATATA or someone would've led the way and created a new adult industry trade group.
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You'd think that after all the clusterfucks the FSC has created or exacerbated--and particularly after the Mr. Marcus debacle last year--LATATA or someone would've led the way and created a new adult industry trade group.

LATATA is trying to control things in a quiet way.. And Rob Black is promising free testing (provided by AHF) if talent supports his UAWA movement.
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UAWA is a pipe dream. The money isn't there to get it legally certified as a union, let alone run a free testing program.
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LATATA is trying to control things in a quiet way.. And Rob Black is promising free testing (provided by AHF) if talent supports his UAWA movement.
Rob has some good ideas - not sure if he is the best one to have as a spokesperson though...





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A good article about that in Queerty:

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ah well since you brought it up i might as well take the bait, my gay membership card has long been revoked anyway

When Mason Wyler became HIV+ Nextdoor told him he can only do solo work. Obviously the right decision. Of course there were those in the peanut gallery that had a meltdown, how dare the studio do that!! What are they trying to say about people who are HIV+?

So of course, predictably Mason went to work for gutter operations like Dark Alley, and some others, nothing all that surprising to some of us out there.

Although on the plus side, Corbin Fisher and Sean Cody who film sans rubbers and do require models to test like it's on the straight side.
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ah well since you brought it up i might as well take the bait, my gay membership card has long been revoked anyway

When Mason Wyler became HIV+ Nextdoor told him he can only do solo work. Obviously the right decision. Of course there were those in the peanut gallery that had a meltdown, how dare the studio do that!! What are they trying to say about people who are HIV+?

So of course, predictably Mason went to work for gutter operations like Dark Alley, and some others, nothing all that surprising to some of us out there.

Although on the plus side, Corbin Fisher and Sean Cody who film sans rubbers and do require models to test like it's on the straight side.


Since I have worked exclusively on the straight side of the adult industry, and I am a small independent producer anyway, I'm only now learning more about how the gay and TS sectors operate differently in some cases.

If we could come to one standard for the entire adult industry, I think that would be ideal.

Of course, we all know about the many factions and egos in the adult industry. We can't even come to basic agreements about health and safety protections. I had heard about Treasure Island being somewhat of a pariah for shooting bareback gay, however it seems there are more gay companies shooting bareback now (TI was banned from the Folsom Street Fair, and The GAYVN Award placed a lifetime ban on Treasure Island Media production's from eligibility as well as other productions depicting barebacking - I just read that they hire HIV+ talent to bareback too).

Thanks for contributing to this thread. I noted that on a few of the other large adult forums that there was not even a mention of the recent HIV+ cases or the moratorium. Is it any wonder this industry finds itself in the position it is now?



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Since I have worked exclusively on the straight side of the adult industry, and I am a small independent producer anyway, I'm only now learning more about how the gay and TS sectors operate differently in some cases.

If we could come to one standard for the entire adult industry, I think that would be ideal.

Of course, we all know about the many factions and egos in the adult industry. We can't even come to basic agreements about health and safety protections. I had heard about Treasure Island being somewhat of a pariah for shooting bareback gay, however it seems there are more gay companies shooting bareback now (TI was banned from the Folsom Street Fair, and The GAYVN Award placed a lifetime ban on Treasure Island Media production's from eligibility as well as other productions depicting barebacking - I just read that they hire HIV+ talent to bareback too).

Thanks for contributing to this thread. I noted that on a few of the other large adult forums that there was not even a mention of the recent HIV+ cases or the moratorium. Is it any wonder this industry finds itself in the position it is now?



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Treasure Island are basically the original bug chasers, in a way they probably even started the whole thing. HDK are another, I think they came after TI- they signed Jeff Palmer after he was diagnosed HIV+ and who promotes the HIV does not exist theory while taking HIV medications. Both along with some others cater to that audience. I know that some of their models are known to go around parties and bareback, HIV- people included.

At least on the gay side, the forums are very quiet from the looks of it and have been for a while. The subject is also avoided because it's been discussed before and... well it's not always nice and civilized. A lot of webmasters have quit, those that are left are barely hanging on or thinking about giving up since the tubes have concentrated a lot of the traffic. Sites like JustUsBoys.com, which were like a fire hose for gay site traffic no longer list 3rd party sites.

I don't see why studios and/or shooters don't administer those HIV tests CVS and Walgreens sell in addition to the blood tests talent regularly gets. They're sensitive, use saliva or blood, done in 20 or so minutes and detect HIV 1/2. Better yet, someone like the FSC can pull some muscle and buy that stuff wholesale. With the amount of people shooting content daily they should be able to secure a nice discount so talent or whoever won't have to shell out $40+tax for it at the stores.
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