NewOldPlayer

Some 'real life' stories, although amazing and fantastic to read about, don't necessarily transfer over to the big screen very well.

I had high hopes for this Picture of the Year and was somewhat disappointed at how simply boring it was. Yes, boring.

I can image the book is fantastic with all the details of his 12 years, but the film butchered it.

The main character is very intelligent and resourceful, yet it took him 12 years to write a simple letter that frees him? What has been doing for those 12 years? He seemed to give up hope after 3 days. It took him 12 years to get a letter mailed? Yet, they would let him buy groceries alone in town?

But my main argument is this, the film has no passion and no emotion. Because you don't care about the lead, you don't care about everything he gets involved in. He had no struggle, no balls for freedom. I know he had to play it cool, and blend in, but what about his mind?? No plotting to be free? No desire to leave? Even Frank at Alcatraz, the minute he got there starting plotting, and let us in on it...that's called a plot. This lead in 12 years, had no plotting and no mental thoughts to share with the audience on how he was going to correct his situation. I kept waiting and waiting for some glimmer of passion for him to get his life back, and it never came. He finally after how many years...writes a letter and tries to get whitey to mail it? Then gives up again... then writes another letter? A simple letter delivered him to freedom? In real life, yes, that is amazing, but on the big screen, it falls short and turned the film into a boring slice of cinematic life.

The ending was horrible. There is no 'lump in our throat' and there was nothing to root for. When he finally got home because of one simple letter delivered by a producer of the film Brad Pitt, (who agreed to be in the film if he could play a good white guy because Angie would kick his ass if he beat anybody.) ...the lead simply leaves the plantation, with hardly a bad word screaming from his owner, opens his front door, and his family looks at him like he just stole the bottle of milk at the doorstep. Again, NO emotions at all. The daughter barely hugs her dad and all are afraid to even approach him. Why the absence of emotions? What is the director thinking at this point? Keep it cool.... be more like Spock. I thought this film would be an amazing look into this man's life and struggle. No struggle at all. He just put up with bullshit for 12 years until he could get his letter sent.

This film would've made a much better documentary than a movie. There simply wasn't enough plot or story to carry it for 2 hours. I'm very confused as to why it won Best Picture. Very confused.

Then before the credits, they type on the screen some juicy tid bits about his life, and how HE wrote the book, and then later he was missing, body never found. Now THAT is the movie's ending. Why was all that good stuff left out? All we got was the boring part of his lack of ambition to leave, then skip out with a letter?

The Color Purple had so much more emotion, love, anger, joy, triumph, and more powerful scenes, it was a much better film. 12 Years had horrible pacing... while watching it would run: super slow for 10 minutes, then mellow drama beating, super slow for 10 minutes, then more mellow drama beating, repeat, repeat... you could almost set your watch to it.

I felt robbed. Where is the drama?? Where are the emotions? Where is the powerful moments that make us all identify with the lead and his struggle? I wasn't rooting for the lead to escape because HE never wanted to escape. He never tried and never plotted to leave. Yes, I know if you escape they will kill you.... so write that letter within the next month, not after 12 years??? One scene showing him trying to write with wax, and it didn't work, so he gave up? Got mad and gave up?? I just didn't get it. I think the book has the real answers and the movie's writers fucked up the adaptation.

A good film that could've been GREAT.

It did make me feel terrible watching it, the guilt was overwhelming, so if that is what they were going for, mission accomplished. I can't believe it won for best screen play adaptation. The power of guilt in Hollywood is still alive and well.

I never felt entertained, I just felt guilty watching it, then I realized, I'm bored out of my skull.

slapass

I fell asleep during it.

lock

7 years in Tibet felt like 7 years watching it too.

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i plan to watch it while i sleep

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aka123

I liked it. I didn't even expect it being some action blast.

GirlNinja

Yeah I wasn't into it myself. And such a happy ending kinda pissed me off. Shit like that don't end happy.

PornDude

I didn't read.

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arock10

I would've preferred to watch django unchained again

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aka123

It was based on true story, unless I got it totally wrong.

mineistaken

Purpose of the movie was to pussyfy white people even more and make them submit to africans because of the guilt syndrome. Brainwashing at its finest.

MrBottomTooth

I liked the slaver played by Paul Dano. Guy is such a great actor. He ends up with the best creepy roles. He was the priest in There Will Be Blood and the retard in Prisoners too. Other than him, ya it was a bit of a snoozefest.

Dvae

I never felt entertained, I just felt guilty watching it, then I realized, I'm bored out of my mind.


So rather than a 5 page review this was all you needed.

The white Hollywood Liberals have accomplished their mission.

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bagfull

A man real life struggle, he was in shock and fooled. Was great movie to me and I didnt fall a sleep. I will not watch it again , that for sure. makes me to angry

SmutHammer

I liked the movie. Couldn't watch it twice though. I'm not sure why it would make anyone feel guilty, I had nothing to do with the way things were back then and neither did you. I felt bad for some of the people, but in no way guilty.

nico-t

no intention of ever watching it, and this review is exactly what i expected this movie to be. Clearly only produced for a safe bet for the oscars, and as a result to cash in.

mineistaken

Tell that to liberal scum. Do you think "white guilt" term came out of nowhere? You are smart one and understand that, but some dumb fuck is easy to brainwash.

bronco67

So you think they butchered the book that you "imagined" reading? Another brilliant post.

Why would you feel guilty? Did you do enslave anyone lately?

I'm as liberal as they come, but I would never feel guilty for what white people did back then.

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SmutHammer

Speaking of all this guilt bs. My son came home from school a couple years ago saying he felt bad for being white. It was because of what they were teaching in school about slavery. I told him there was also white slaves, like the Gladiators back in Rome, also that he had nothing to do with any of it and has nothing to feel bad for. When he told his teacher that there were white slaves too she got upset said that was a lie and told him to take a seat! The schools are the ones teaching racism and guilt...

aka123

I don't know what "white slaves" have to do with this exactly, when you talk about slavery in America. Is that supposed to be some sort of defend? However, as we started history from the "beginning", the pretty much first things about slavery was that Ancient Greece was built on slavery. There was a nice picture where there was lot of stick mans holding few stick mans above them, to demonstrate the structure.

But maybe the teacher thought that your son talked about America? As there probably wasn't white slaves in USA. Well, actually USA has slaves even now, but illegal slaves, like forced prostitutes from Eastern Europe. But that is another story.

Although I don't get this guilt shit anyways, I think USA has enough present day shit to worry about. At least I have enough present day shit to worry about, and I don't care that much what my ancestors did (still some blaming about our own shits), I know the headlines, that is enough.

NewOldPlayer

I couldn't agree more. He was great. A real actor that takes chances. Unlike Brad Pitt who squeezed by in a shallow safe role, not wanting to offend his adopted children and Angie no doubt. But the minute Dano's role got interesting, he was no where to be seen in the film. I guess they didn't want his role to outshine the lead. They didn't resolve that angry situation in the film after the attempted hanging, which pissed me off. The moment a little plot would develop, they would kill it off. I just can't figure out why.

I think they hinted at the end of the film when before the credits rolled it read "his body was never found" That might be implying that those 2 slavers murdered and got rid of his body. But just speculation. I thought a movie about life story would fill in the details, because it is a true life story. Bad screen play writing.

I'm still blown away with the Best Pic and Best screen play adaptation. Blown away. Of course it didn't get best director, because I guess the guilt didn't reach that deep.

I can easily see this film as a simple HBO movie, released on cable, not in theaters. Brad Pitt is one powerful mo fo, and it took more than just money to get this film into national release. Big big Hollywood connections.

Captain Kawaii

- Its bizarre what they teach and how they teach it sometimes.

NewOldPlayer

and to be fair...

Lupita was excellent. Raw, emotional, very real. She had more passion and emotion than the lead!!!

But, again, they only used her for about 14 minutes, because God forbid her role takes the focus of the lumpy performance of the lead.

If the lead had more passion and emotion like Lupita did, the film would've been great. I blame the director for casting an actor that had big wide off set eyes, over an actor that can act.

SmutHammer

Actually there were white slaves in America, and some even had black slave owners (As far as I know). The black slaves were worth more than the Irish white slaves. Of course they don't want anyone to know that or how most slaves were bought from their own people. Schools and Media do not care about history, They want you to believe what they choose to teach you which is usually the extreme worst of situations.

SilentKnight

Not that Wikipedia is always an entirely accurate historical reference - but it's a good starting point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery

If an atmosphere of apologist is to continue - it should be global. Everyone needs to take a bite of the shit sandwich when it comes to slavery.

Or...we can simply acknowledge that wrongs happened - move on...and work towards ensuring it never happens again.

sandman!

thought about the same boring as fuck

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kane

There are 30 million people worldwide living in slavery right now. This is not a problem of the past, it is still a current issue.

mavruda

I saw this movie for 7th time on DVD. I liked it again.

John-ACWM

I guess I'll still give it a try.

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aka123

There were Irish slaves in America (colonial England), but not in the time of USA, as far as I know.

Also, I don't think it being relevant that some slaves were bought from their own people. Some African kings did sell their subjects, but mostly slaves were kidnapped from other African countries/ tribes. You know, like Greece folk kidnapping slaves from Sparta or something like that. Blacks don't consider each other as "own people" the more than white folks. USA might form some sort exception, but if you think Africa. I don't know did mean that, but I have seen people referring other blacks being "own people".

American white folks did practice slavery on large scale. Can't you just say that without some "but"? You didn't practice it, so what's the problem? Unless you are member of KKK or something like that.

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