Anyone Got Any Tips/Experience with Lung C?

[wehateporn]

Thanks

[Va2k]

cancer? God I hope you or someone you love don't have it bro.. I've had cancer not lung thank god.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Fungus

cancer? God I hope you or someone you love don't have it bro.. I've had cancer not lung thank god.

I'm glad you're still here with us Fungus!! You're a survivor, any tips you can give?

Someone in my family will quite likely be diagnosed with it, I spotted that survival rates are not good, that Chemo doesn't work well for it. I also read that the ones who change their diet are the most likely to survive. That's where I'm up to so far.

[trevesty]

My grandfather has stage 4 lung cancer. About a year ago, the doctors gave him 6 months to a year tops. He's still going strong and still working. He's a contractor for Wal-Mart(basically he builds and remodels stores for them, has his own crew, etc). He only misses work for his chemo appointments.

The only thing I can figure is that he's one of the most positive, stubborn mofos I've ever met. The chemo is starting to get to him a bit, but you wouldn't know he had stage 4 lung cancer if you saw him out and about.

[onwebcam]

My dad had it. They were able to cut off part of his lung combined with chemo and radiation they got rid of it. However what eventually killed him was blood cancer from the chemo. Well actually they gave him chemo to fight the blood cancer that he got from the chemo and the second round of chemo killed him.

[MaDalton]

my father was diagnosed 25 years ago, they took out part of his lung. 5 years later it was back and he died shortly after. Actually the second chemo made it worse, sometimes it might be better to just die in peace by leaving it alone.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

my father was diagnosed 25 years ago, they took out part of his lung. 5 years later it was back and he died shortly after. Actually the second chemo made it worse, sometimes it might be better to just die in peace by leaving it alone.

Yeah it was actually 5 years later for my dad as well. The first time around someone at the treatment center told him "you'll be back in 5 years." Sure enough he was..

[DWB]

<wehateporn>

Just up your vitamin C intake. Cancer cured.

</wehateporn>

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by Fungus

cancer? God I hope you or someone you love don't have it bro.. I've had cancer not lung thank god.

I remember when you were going through that, dude. Happy to have been able to help, and so glad you had a good outcome.

[pornlaw]

It's a tough cancer to even beat for 5 yrs. There's been some great strides in lung cancer treatment though.

My dad had it 24 years ago and it was 7 months from diagnosis to his death.

My best advice - get that person to a large teaching hospital for treatment in a major city in the US. They have access to medical equipment such as specialized radiation machines & trial studies of chemo that most small hospitals don't have.

Do your homework on the facility & oncologist. Think Sloan Kettering, MD Anderson, Mayo Clinic, UCLA...

Good luck to you and the person diagnosed.

[PR_Glen]

whfoods.com is great for reading up on prevention foods.

[PaperstreetWinston]

get with people you wronged. get your business and estate in order and hope for the best,.

[Arnox]

Tip:

Remove yourself from the process because you're mentally incapable of making scientifically justified suggestions and instead risk doing more damage with your flawed pseudoscientific view of the world and medicine.

Allow a medical professional that has devoted their life to diagnosing cancer, helping people with cancer and forcing cancer into remission to control the process. Getting involved is only going to make the situation worse and you will do more harm than good.

Provide support on an emotive level. Do not provide support on a medical level.

For a cancer patient, you're a very dangerous individual because you believe things that simply aren't true. If you want to go down the snake oil road - do it when you have cancer yourself. Don't jeopardize someone else's chances of survival because you think that 'Big Pharma' is run by those nasty Jewish oil bankers.

[Ferus]

You are just fishing for sympathy. Disgusting!

[loreen]

If caught early, surgically removing the cancerous lung area gives great results. Recovering seems to be a bitch though
(info from patient forums).

[Barry-xlovecam]

One thing for sure -- stay away from the "Youtube Doctors".



Lung cancer, if too far advanced, is most likely fatal news -- oncologists, new drugs and money can prolong cancer survival times, sometimes for years. Remission and re-treatment is the ordeal if the patient survives.

Get the patient fastest competent medical treatment you can find.

[MrBottomTooth]

Just curious of everyone here that has known people with it, how many of them were smokers? Seems like it would be a smoker's disease but I am hearing of more and more people with it that have never smoked.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Just curious of everyone here that has known people with it, how many of them were smokers? Seems like it would be a smoker's disease but I am hearing of more and more people with it that have never smoked.

well they say radon is the second leading cause of lung cancer.

[pornlaw]

Cancer has more to do with stress than environmental factors. Stress suppresses the body's ability to fight off disease and allows cancer to take hold and grow. We all have cancerous cells but most of us kill them off & flush them away.

My father, his brother and his sister - all from the same parents, all smoked. My father quit at 35, both his brother & sister continued to smoke their entire lives. Only my father developed lung cancer. My aunt past from natural causes at 84 and my uncle still smokes and is a very healthy & active 75. My father died at 55.

The only difference was that my father owned is own business and was under constant stress from it. His sister was a stay at home mom. My uncle worked for others.

Live stress free is important but sometimes impossible.

[TROLLENSTEIN]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Just curious of everyone here that has known people with it, how many of them were smokers? Seems like it would be a smoker's disease but I am hearing of more and more people with it that have never smoked.

My Dad died of cancer, he never smoked, tho in his case the cancer had started in his liver and it had spread from there to his lungs. We had no history of cancer in the family, so it was a hell of a shock to everyone. He had went into hospital for a completely unrelated health check up as he hadn't been in years, that's when they first spotted it as "shadows" on the liver and lungs.

[Va2k]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I'm glad you're still here with us Fungus!! You're a survivor, any tips you can give?

Someone in my family will quite likely be diagnosed with it, I spotted that survival rates are not good, that Chemo doesn't work well for it. I also read that the ones who change their diet are the most likely to survive. That's where I'm up to so far.

Oh man sorry to hear this. Yes I do have tips. Never tell the person with cancer you know what their going through. Never become a different person around them nor feel sorry for it. Have them join support boards that deal with the same cancer they have. Never know really about the survival rate, Hell at first they thought I had stage 4 and wouldn't make it 8 months. I just laughed so hard I couldn't help it, pissed my mom off and the doctor was looking at me like wtf.. It freaked me out so bad I guess thats how I dealt with the news at that time.

Really really be there for that person man, but DON'T over step what I mean is don't pick shit up for them, take over their routine unless they ask you because you will make them feel worthless as a person.. i know it made me feel that way and still does. The support groups are the best to be honest. OH AND get 2 or 3 different opinions never go by 1 person telling you or anyone you know you have cancer. Dr's make mistakes and the other day was in the paper that a Dr, scammed people telling them they had cancer made them go through chemo etc..

Chemo isn't that bad depending on the type its the radiation that is a bitch. Good luck you have my email if you or anyone of you all need to talk about cancer etc..
Tom

ps sorry for grammar typing 1 handed is a bitch my left hand is half dead and hurts like a bitch. Going for surgery wed 24th for pinched ulna nerve.

[Va2k]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

I remember when you were going through that, dude. Happy to have been able to help, and so glad you had a good outcome.

Man I still can't thank you enough for the help you did give me.. I still owe you work and would Love to do it for you brother.. Please it would make me feel so much better then thinking I got something for nothing you know! I Hate that, I work for what I get..

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Just curious of everyone here that has known people with it, how many of them were smokers? Seems like it would be a smoker's disease but I am hearing of more and more people with it that have never smoked.

my father had smoked 1-2 packs a day and was 57 when he died of lung cancer

on the other hand one of my uncles smoked even more and without filter and died with a heart attack at 85 or something like that

i think it's a genetic predisposition if you are vulnerable to cancer or not

[Paully]

Originally Posted by Arnox

Tip:

Remove yourself from the process because you're mentally incapable of making scientifically justified suggestions and instead risk doing more damage with your flawed pseudoscientific view of the world and medicine.

Allow a medical professional that has devoted their life to diagnosing cancer, helping people with cancer and forcing cancer into remission to control the process. Getting involved is only going to make the situation worse and you will do more harm than good.

Provide support on an emotive level. Do not provide support on a medical level.

For a cancer patient, you're a very dangerous individual because you believe things that simply aren't true. If you want to go down the snake oil road - do it when you have cancer yourself. Don't jeopardize someone else's chances of survival because you think that 'Big Pharma' is run by those nasty Jewish oil bankers.

What this guy said. I have liver cancer and have for a while. A few life changes amd chemo and soon radio ablation and ill be cancer free. Ten years ago it was a death sentence. Stil statistically outcome is grim but everyone is different. Lung transplants and ablation or direct chemo are all options. Listen to the docs.

If eastern or hollistic or homeopathy worked they would just be called medicine. No more fucking around. Life is fucking fragile and vitamins and positive thinking wont cut it. University hospital and research latest trials so you know what to talk to your docs about.

[wehateporn]

Thank you all, much appreciated!

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

my father was diagnosed 25 years ago, they took out part of his lung. 5 years later it was back and he died shortly after. Actually the second chemo made it worse, sometimes it might be better to just die in peace by leaving it alone.

It seems to be a common story about the second chemo

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

I remember when you were going through that, dude. Happy to have been able to help, and so glad you had a good outcome.

You are a real hero edgeprod, a super hero!

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Ferus

You are just fishing for sympathy. Disgusting!

No thanks, save the sympathy for GFYers who have Cancer, there are some posters here who do have Cancer

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Paully

What this guy said. I have liver cancer and have for a while. A few life changes amd chemo and soon radio ablation and ill be cancer free. Ten years ago it was a death sentence. Stil statistically outcome is grim but everyone is different. Lung transplants and ablation or direct chemo are all options. Listen to the docs.

If eastern or hollistic or homeopathy worked they would just be called medicine. No more fucking around. Life is fucking fragile and vitamins and positive thinking wont cut it. University hospital and research latest trials so you know what to talk to your docs about.

Good luck Paully

[wehateporn]

Some excellent tips Fungus, thank you!

Originally Posted by Fungus

Oh man sorry to hear this. Yes I do have tips. Never tell the person with cancer you know what their going through. Never become a different person around them nor feel sorry for it. Have them join support boards that deal with the same cancer they have. Never know really about the survival rate, Hell at first they thought I had stage 4 and wouldn't make it 8 months. I just laughed so hard I couldn't help it, pissed my mom off and the doctor was looking at me like wtf.. It freaked me out so bad I guess thats how I dealt with the news at that time.

Really really be there for that person man, but DON'T over step what I mean is don't pick shit up for them, take over their routine unless they ask you because you will make them feel worthless as a person.. i know it made me feel that way and still does. The support groups are the best to be honest. OH AND get 2 or 3 different opinions never go by 1 person telling you or anyone you know you have cancer. Dr's make mistakes and the other day was in the paper that a Dr, scammed people telling them they had cancer made them go through chemo etc..

Chemo isn't that bad depending on the type its the radiation that is a bitch. Good luck you have my email if you or anyone of you all need to talk about cancer etc..
Tom

ps sorry for grammar typing 1 handed is a bitch my left hand is half dead and hurts like a bitch. Going for surgery wed 24th for pinched ulna nerve.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Arnox

Tip:

Remove yourself from the process because you're mentally incapable of making scientifically justified suggestions and instead risk doing more damage with your flawed pseudoscientific view of the world and medicine.

Well, I actually got the same qualifications you need to go to med school, and health/medicine is actually my true interest, but I went for the simple option and did Math (I'm a bit lazy). However I'm not happy with the current system, too much about profit, but that doesn't mean I'll assume it's all bad. My aunt will be hard to talk out of mainstream approaches, so I'll do my best to encourage her to add in natural techniques along with what the system does to her e.g. Eat Broccoli each day, positive thinking, general dietary improvements etc

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Just curious of everyone here that has known people with it, how many of them were smokers? Seems like it would be a smoker's disease but I am hearing of more and more people with it that have never smoked.

The aggressive Small Cell Lung Cancer (20% of all cases) is 99% in smokers

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

whfoods.com is great for reading up on prevention foods.

Cheers Glen

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by trevesty

The only thing I can figure is that he's one of the most positive, stubborn mofos I've ever met.

This seems to be key, good luck to your Dad

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by DWB

<wehateporn>

Just up your vitamin C intake. Cancer cured.

</wehateporn>

That's Ebola you're thinking of