Ann Angel's Bitch Husband -------> Inside Please

[Mutt]

Hey I know it's Friday night and you're probably well into the second quart of your wife's smelly piss by now but this will only take a second -

WHY ARE YOU STEALING MONEY FROM ME? AND WHEN IS CCBILL GOING TO SHUT YOU DOWN FOR IT?

[420]

Its from 2012. Oh wait, its been rebilling at .01% for two years.

[Seth Manson]

Hmm...

this thread needs popcorn

[Mutt]

nah no drama - I bought this site off a friend in 2010 and I remember he pulled the same shit on him, when an affiliate breaks his stupid rules he feels he can steal traffic/sales.

[Spunky]

The people will try this.I'd send Bo to talk to him

[TheDA]

He's been ripping people off for years. When I confronted him I got ignored.

[NaughtyRob]

Wow!

Originally Posted by Mutt

Hey I know it's Friday night and you're probably well into the second quart of your wife's smelly piss by now but this will only take a second -

WHY ARE YOU STEALING MONEY FROM ME? AND WHEN IS CCBILL GOING TO SHUT YOU DOWN FOR IT?

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by Mutt

nah no drama - I bought this site off a friend in 2010 and I remember he pulled the same shit on him, when an affiliate breaks his stupid rules he feels he can steal traffic/sales.

Giving notice of a term change is one thing as then you can decide if you wish to continue or abort. Changing terms on the down low is theft. If the rule breaking isn't in the terms than think you guys need to team up and bring da heat.

[iSpyCams]

He's been on here with his bulshit under Ann Angel's login, he is somehow under the impression that a woman's right to do what she wants with her body means he doesn't have to pay webmasters since it's a woman's body in the content and she apparently doesn't like to pay people.

So to him, fucking you over is just "pro choice".

[CaptainHowdy]

Basturd ...

[Va2k]

Damn that sucks and makes all legit webmasters look bad. Sure wish someone would take him down! Is he in the US, if so where, what state, city etc ?

[DBS.US]

Why has no one ever put together a GFY Blacklist? Like a Yelp of adult programs?

[RyuLion]

Shit..that sucks!!!

[xXXtesy10]

You're doing it wrong

[iSpyCams]

Never forget!

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Missing my point much? How is this any different than if the program shut down? Are you people really saying that they don't have a right to do with their content as they please? After all it is her body online available for the world to see not yours. What does this even have to do with promoting my program? Lol. Why not stop promotin everything in that case because everything may end up shutting down? You aren't doing anyone a favor by promoting lol. You make money from it. If you decide not to then you dont it's simple really. Affiliates need to stop acting like they are doing producers a favor. If it was a favor you would be doing it for free. And if a producer decides to pull the plug it is their right to do so. I don't see anywhere written that this is not the case. Am I missing something? Or are we back to just feeling entitled?

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Can't believe some people in here are being so negative about this. Do you all forget that while you sit on your computer for a few hours a day send out some links etc, this girl goes out and exposes herself every day so you can use her product tO make money? I love when people make it seem like what they do is sooooo difficult. Yes it costs you a million dollars to be an affiliate and now you lost it because she decided to pull the plug. Lol come on get real. If anything you lost a couple of hours here and there. Now she is coming here asking for forgiveness and saying she will do the right thing and you all get your panties in a bunch? Lol. Unbelievable. Meanwhile Melissa risks jail time and other problems of people looking down on her in her daily life for what she does just to put up pics. Does anyone ever think about what it actually is to be a porn model on a solo site??? IMO as an affiliate if this happens you suck it up and move on or you give it another chance. No need to come here and bitch for 20 pages! Shit happens and at the end of the day her content is hers and no one else's. She can choose to do whatever she wants with it. I think people need to have a little more respect for models in this business and how difficult it actually is to be one especially today with piracy. She is up there naked for the world to see not you. And she gets her hard work stolen every day not you. And she is the one who has to deal with a lower income while her body is exposed all over the web not you. What happened to decency. Everyone always feels so damn entitled!! She said she will even pay everyone back. What more do you want???? Is this what Louis ck comedian means when he talks about what a whinny society we've become?

[wehateporn]

He emailed out new terms a while back, he said he would end any affiliates who broke them

"Hello Affiliates! We appreciate your continued support through all these years and hope that we have been able to provide you with some great content to make sales with over this time period! We are still going strong, even through the hard times us webmasters are faced with these days. We wish you all the best during these times! That said we have to now enforce a policy that we have had for quite some time but many are not following it. We are limiting ALL use of promo content FROM ALL OF OUR WEBSITES to NON NUDE! We hope you accept these terms. The policy will be enforced and we will call for the removal of any other content. Affiliates who do not comply will simply be removed from the program. So save yourself work in the future and please obey the policy so we can ALL continue making money. Thank you kindly. This message is going out to all affiliates! We are happy to grant access to our sites for promo materials, however some take advantage of this. We do not want to take away access rights from hard working affiliates because some can't follow the rules. If you take the most revealing shots and spread them all over as promo content, no one will join these sites, as we are sure you are already well aware of. It may gain you some sales in the short run, but over time this will hinder our ability to provide content. We appreciate your business and thank you all in advance for your cooperation. Regards, Digital Angel Images Crew www.digitalangeldollars.com"

[PeR930]

So you broke the rules?

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

He emailed out new terms a while back, he said he would end any affiliates who broke them

"Hello Affiliates! We appreciate your continued support through all these years and hope that we have been able to provide you with some great content to make sales with over this time period! We are still going strong, even through the hard times us webmasters are faced with these days. We wish you all the best during these times! That said we have to now enforce a policy that we have had for quite some time but many are not following it. We are limiting ALL use of promo content FROM ALL OF OUR WEBSITES to NON NUDE! We hope you accept these terms. The policy will be enforced and we will call for the removal of any other content. Affiliates who do not comply will simply be removed from the program. So save yourself work in the future and please obey the policy so we can ALL continue making money. Thank you kindly. This message is going out to all affiliates! We are happy to grant access to our sites for promo materials, however some take advantage of this. We do not want to take away access rights from hard working affiliates because some can't follow the rules. If you take the most revealing shots and spread them all over as promo content, no one will join these sites, as we are sure you are already well aware of. It may gain you some sales in the short run, but over time this will hinder our ability to provide content. We appreciate your business and thank you all in advance for your cooperation. Regards, Digital Angel Images Crew www.digitalangeldollars.com"

I assumed he probably sent out an email like this - doesn't make it much better. he's always been an asshole towards affiliates.

[jscott]

What a motherfucker

[TheDA]

"Affiliates who do not comply will simply be removed from the program." He hasn't removed Mutt from the program though, he is taking his traffic and paying a vastly reduced rate.

Just watch out for this guy if you are promoting him, make sure he doesn't adjust your payout rate for a few days a month and then knock it back to what it should be once he's pocketed a little extra cash.

I've said for years that there should be notification via email to the affiliate from CCBill when any of the payout conditions etc have been changed. It's never been implemented as far as I am aware.

[iSpyCams]

It's just another excuse. And as usual it's utterly ridiculous.

"I've been spamming naked pics of my wife on the internet for 20 years and I need you guys to take it all down now"

And besides that, he's saying the reason is because it doesn't generate income, but when it does he doesn't want to pay.

You know what REALLY interferes with your income? Fucking over your sales partners. That will definitely fuck up your income.

[Seth Manson]

I would say I pulled my links. But I never put up any.

[Silk at ChimpoutTraffic]

Shady bitch

[fitzmulti]

Shady as fuck.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Mutt

I assumed he probably sent out an email like this - doesn't make it much better. he's always been an asshole towards affiliates.

He felt that all the free nude pics were taking away the need to join, so overall losing lots of sales

[sarettah]

Did the Alphasky dude buy the site or something ?

damn.

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[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

I would say I pulled my links. But I never put up any.

Yeah, this.

There are a few scumbag programs that quietly make the % uselessly small. They are uniformly all run by people who feel psychotically entitled and think they are somehow more virtuous than everyone else in online adult, even though they are thieves, reneging on the promise to pay on sales in return for affiliates' hard work.

I kinds wish CCBill would email like 10 times when a crooked program owner make a change like that.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

I would say I pulled my links. But I never put up any.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I kinds wish CCBill would email like 10 times when a crooked program owner make a change like that.

That is a great idea, any change to an affiliate's account for a program using CCBILL's affiliate software should be automatically reported to the affiliate by email.

[wehateporn]

Just checked my accounts, all is well, I've stuck to non nude promotion so possibly that's what this is about

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Just checked my accounts, all is well, I've stuck to non nude promotion so possibly that's what this is about

and what's your conversion ratio on the program? let's compare to see if your non-nude galleries convert better than nude.

[Tom_PM]

Originally Posted by TheDA

"Affiliates who do not comply will simply be removed from the program." He hasn't removed Mutt from the program though, he is taking his traffic and paying a vastly reduced rate.

Just watch out for this guy if you are promoting him, make sure he doesn't adjust your payout rate for a few days a month and then knock it back to what it should be once he's pocketed a little extra cash.

I've said for years that there should be notification via email to the affiliate from CCBill when any of the payout conditions etc have been changed. It's never been implemented as far as I am aware.

Hard to believe that they don't.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Mutt

and what's your conversion ratio on the program? let's compare to see if your non-nude galleries convert better than nude.