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Old 10-16-2014, 08:52 AM   #1
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Texas hospital is "deeply sorry"

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The top doctors there should be shot. Has nobody at that hospital seen the movie outbreak?
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The top doctors there should be shot. Has nobody at that hospital seen the movie outbreak?
Shooting the doctors would cause blood spray and might expand the outbreak.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:00 AM   #4
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Texas is horrible with healthcare. Patient zero came to one of the worst possible states.
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Was watching an interview with a African crew who worked taking the bodies of ebola victims and disposing of them. They are meticulous in the disinfecting, result? Several months in, 5000 bodies removed, not a single infection in his team.
A US hospital not only got two staff infected on Patient Zero, they even permitted an infected nurse to fly despite regulations (she seemingly contacted them for permission to fly, which was granted).
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In all seriousness, allowing one Ebola patient to infect two nurses does demonstrate an absolutely stunning level of incompetence.
If the hospitals in Sierra Leone were this bad all their staff would be dead by now.
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Was watching an interview with a African crew who worked taking the bodies of ebola victims and disposing of them. They are meticulous in the disinfecting, result? Several months in, 5000 bodies removed, not a single infection in his team.
A US hospital not only got two staff infected on Patient Zero, they even permitted an infected nurse to fly despite regulations (she seemingly contacted them for permission to fly, which was granted).
Yep. West Africans are smarter than Americans.

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Were the nurses infected before or after they knew the patient had contracted ebola?
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As news helicopters swarmed over Dallas' Love Field on Wednesday evening to watch the second U.S. nurse to contract Ebola board a private plane bound for Atlanta, one lone mysterious man stood out from the pack.
Holding a clipboard and directing the transfer, the unidentified man seemed to be the only person on the tarmac without protective clothing, wearing just a button down shirt and slacks.
While Ebola is not an airborne disease, his presence so close to patient Amber Vinson's medical team sparked fears after he was seen grabbing a container and hazmat trash bag from one of the workers' in full-protective gear and later boarding the flight.
He then flew with Vinson and the other hazmat-suited medical staff to Atlanta and local television crews spotted him with the stricken nurse as she disembarked at the airport in Georgia to be transferred to Emory University Hospital.
ABC News reports that the man is a supervisor for Phoenix Air, the company that flew Miss Vinson from Dallas to Atlanta.
When the plane landed in Atlanta, the man had still not donned any protective clothing and was seen openly interacting with Vinson and the other medical professionals caring for the nurse.


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This is what happens when you walk into a Texas hospital with Ebola with no health insurance, they send you home.


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Texas is horrible with healthcare. Patient zero came to one of the worst possible states.
Texas has world renown medical centers. the history of medical breakthroughs in cardiac treatment at the houston medical center alone are legendary.
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I'm not getting the criticism here of the hospital admitting culpability, apologizing for it and stating what they are doing about their mistakes.

someone fill me in, isn't that what they are supposed to do when they fuck-up?

http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF...D-20141016.pdf
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Texas has world renown medical centers. the history of medical breakthroughs in cardiac treatment at the houston medical center alone are legendary.
Yep. MD Anderson in Houston is world renown for cancer treatment.
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have you seen them lately? The Republicans running the state have let it slip to one of the worst in the nation.
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have you seen them lately? The Republicans running the state have let it slip to one of the worst in the nation.
texas ranks well at Best Hospitals in Texas - US News Best Hospitals
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Yep. West Africans are smarter than Americans.

Congratulations to all of us.
Actually no, any African crews who have such protocols in place were trained by westerners. Our N American doctors and nurses and infection control specialists have the setups and protocols in place over there. The problem here is that most if not all Canadian and US hospitals SAY they have certain protocols as standard procedure but the sad fact is that few if any are truly ready to handle this kind of potential major outbreak.

Nursing staff and doctors from major Canadian health care centres have been on the news this week stating flat-out that they aren't fully ready here. Special isolation suits are needed, a set of detailed protocols have to be in place for entering and exiting rooms of infected patients, handling and sterilization of equipment, etc. It all has to be done a certain way, and that hospital in Texas simply did not have it all in place and ready for this.

Few if any other N American facilities would have (no matter what they say or how modern they are). But they're learning now that they need to get their shit together fast, based on this one example.
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Why you engage with idiots is beyond me; do you really think he cares? It is a Republican state, that is all that matters to his kind.
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The first nurse infected had only been a nurse for like 2 months I think? In hindsight they said that the very best and most well trained staff should have been assigned. For some reason they even quarantined her dog, which can not possibly contract the disease. I think they said out of an abundance of caution, but come on. I have no trouble blaming that hospital for their screw ups. The screw ups are even bigger because they're in Texas.
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BP said sorry and that fixed the gulf coast...
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The fact that 2 nurses have become infected at Texas Presbyterian speaks for itself: the hospital is run incompetently and is a public nuisance in dealing with Ebola.

There is no excuse for an ''advanced'' nation's preparedness and performance in dealing with a dangerous disease being so pathetic.
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Why you engage with idiots is beyond me; do you really think he cares? It is a Republican state, that is all that matters to his kind.
I guess it's different when you blame Obama for everything under the sun. That's totally legit..
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We seem so afraid to just quarantine people for sake of the safety of others.
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actions not words 'fixes' anything, should we all just say fuck it and never apologise for anything, as that doesn't fix the problem?

A sincere apology is exactly that, it's not an excuse, not a get out of jail free attempt, but simply a sincere apology and recognition of wrongdoing. I can never understand the logic behind 'well sorry doesn't fix it'.

That's not a dig at you Sly, more an observation on how that response has been ingrained in society now as the immediate reaction to apologies.

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I blame Obama for this thread.
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The fact that 2 nurses have become infected at Texas Presbyterian speaks for itself: the hospital is run incompetently and is a public nuisance in dealing with Ebola.

There is no excuse for an ''advanced'' nation's preparedness and performance in dealing with a dangerous disease being so pathetic.
If ebola started to spread in the U.S or europe for that matter we can all say goodbye to the world economy, stability and our lifestyle. Prepare yourself for a life outside the grid back to the stoneage.
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What have I ever blamed on Obama other than the influx of retards that seemed to flock to GFY?
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That Texas hospital has created a new problem for epidemical response that is critical in containing the outbreak of Ebola:
Belize refuses entry to Carnival cruise ship carrying Texas hospital worker who may have handled Ebola victim?s specimen
Belize refuses entry to Carnival cruise ship carrying Texas hospital worker who may have handled Ebola victim’s specimen - The Washington Post
They ( Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital ) have created public mistrust and reason for all healthcare workers to be cautious of any involvement in the treatment and containment of the Ebola disease.
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This all started with he has no insurance send him home. If this doesnt make people wake to the reason why we need baseline healthcare everyone in this country. I dont what will.
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If ebola started to spread in the U.S or europe for that matter we can all say goodbye to the world economy, stability and our lifestyle. Prepare yourself for a life outside the grid back to the stoneage.
the incubation stage sounds scary at first (2-21 days) but you aren't even contagious until you've ALREADY started showing symptoms. This is very controllable even in the worst case scenario.
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This all started with he has no insurance send him home. If this doesnt make people wake to the reason why we need baseline healthcare everyone in this country. I dont what will.
You mean we should be offering free heathcare to whoever crossed our borders?
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Was watching an interview with a African crew who worked taking the bodies of ebola victims and disposing of them. They are meticulous in the disinfecting, result? Several months in, 5000 bodies removed, not a single infection in his team.
A US hospital not only got two staff infected on Patient Zero, they even permitted an infected nurse to fly despite regulations (she seemingly contacted them for permission to fly, which was granted).
odd, if that is the case how did they manage to send 'patient zero' with 'patient negative one' home as fine?
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