Tech If you code with Xcode will you ....

[AdultKing]

If you code using Xcode and Objective-C will you begin using / learning Swift or will you stick with Objective-C for a while longer.

It seems to me that Apple will be wanting to heard a lot of developers toward Swift, which makes sense - it's a more modern language with features that Objective-C just doesn't have. However Objective-C is the foundation of Cocoa which means that I don't think Objective-C is going anywhere soon.

What are you doing ? Are you going to adopt Swift or stick to what you already know ?

[Mutt]

There are about 3 people on this board who can code in anything

This ain't Stackoverflow

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Mutt

There are about 3 people on this board who can code in anything

This ain't Stackoverflow

Nonsense. I can name five coders off the top of my head without even trying. That doesn't even include the ones that don't post.

I'm taking a class on Swift soon, not that this answers the question. :-)

[dicknipples]

Swift is very JavaScript like in nature, more people have been jumping into coding with Swift who have JavaScript backgrounds.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Bowser Koopa

Swift is very JavaScript like in nature, more people have been jumping into coding with Swift who have JavaScript backgrounds.

It may superficially look like Javascript but that's where the comparison ends. Once you add Cocoa into the mix and start creating complex classes and methods it looks quite different to Javascript and the problem most Javascript programmers moving to Swift will encounter is exactly this.

Many assumptions a Javascript programmer would have about how logic performs would be wrong in Swift.

[dicknipples]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

It may superficially look like Javascript but that's where the comparison ends. Once you add Cocoa into the mix and start creating complex classes and methods it looks quite different to Javascript and the problem most Javascript programmers moving to Swift will encounter is exactly this.

Many assumptions a Javascript programmer would have about how logic performs would be wrong in Swift.

Any programmer worthy of their shit shouldn't have many issues picking up Swift.

[edgeprod]

There's a place at the table for both languages, but for mobile it seems like Apple is going to make Swift have less friction for the iPhone app approval process.

[brandonstills]

I glanced at it. Definitely much better than Objective-C but I still don't like that they didn't just go with an off the shelf language that already has an ecosystem behind it. I haven't really done mobile too much other than simple Hello World apps. Personally, I think I'm going to make the shift to Android. It seems like it has much better developer support and you don't have to deal with app store bullshit.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

There's a place at the table for both languages, but for mobile it seems like Apple is going to make Swift have less friction for the iPhone app approval process.

I agree and Swift certainly reduces the complexity aspect of barrier to entry of app development.

Originally Posted by brandonstills

I glanced at it. Definitely much better than Objective-C but I still don't like that they didn't just go with an off the shelf language that already has an ecosystem behind it. I haven't really done mobile too much other than simple Hello World apps. Personally, I think I'm going to make the shift to Android. It seems like it has much better developer support and you don't have to deal with app store bullshit.

Honestly I have never seen a better, more comprehensive and cohesive development documentation and help environment than there is available in the Apple Development program. Even the built in documentation in Xcode is hard to beat when compared to Android development.