Crakrevenue account disabled

[CandidHotties]

Yeah,
So i just received a email saying that my account was disabled due to fact that
i was "engaged in false lead generation and confirmation on the Live Free Fun offer"

About a week ago i was contacted by one of Crakrevenue am and i was asked to provide my traffic sources , which i did. Also i was directly accused that if i don't stop using the Cam69.com domain sending fake traffic they will disable my account.

So i replied and provided all info i could find about that domain which i never owned> as far as i could found is related to bulgarian webmaster/ bulgarian hosting or whatever the fuck it is related to. But it does not belong to me.

So i got a reply in which i was assured that the infos that i sent were helpful and b;la bla all that crap.

3 days ago i got another message , this time from my AM , thierry..whatever, saying that "After reviewing your account, we found unusual results and activity." andmy account will be suspended and all payouts as well..and good luck with another network. Just like that, without any other explanations, and ignoring or maybe not knowing that i already explained to the other AM the situation.
Now i am getting a message from the same Thierry whatever, saying that i was "engaged in false lead generation and confirmation on the Live Free Fun offer."( which of course are related to the same domain that i do not own or have anything to do with.

Now, i don't give a fuck about the money i lost with crakrevenue ( very funny that they decided to close my account just about when to get paid) but it's even more funny
when a thief is calling others thiefs

Everyone who was promoting Crakrevenue dating offers knows that they are just
a very very big scam.

Once people are signing up, they are flooded with dozens of messages from so called"real" profiles ( females ) horny and willing to fuck. Needless to say that these girls are all looking too good to be true. So they purchase that "gold membership" so that they can contact those "real female members" . but instead of talking to a real person they do it with a script/bot.

On a closer look ( on any of these websites like Sexy.com, or adulthookup, or snapsex or whatever the fuck name is, they are all the same. 90% of the female profiles are fake!

So how would you call it when promising/offering something that is not real, and charging big money for that? A legit business? Or a big Scam?

I am not trying to be the moral-righteous one in here. I am just pointing out that
somehow..the scammers are accusing others of using shady techniques to generate fake leads while they own or do business with the biggest scam sites today. Isn't it funny?

[brassmonkey]

cry me a river

[Arnox]

Let's hope they put together a response soon so everyone can know their version of events.

[L-Pink]

This reminds me of my favorite Cher song.

[wehateporn]

Hit up the jaYMan

jaymanAToffergrind.com

[megapower]

Originally Posted by CandidHotties

...
90% of the female profiles are fake!
...

10% real.... sure in your dreams :-)

Did you think about to start a career in a cleaner business?
take a look here

Cool they have a local version for you too

[beerptrol]

offergrind or whatever the hell it's called

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

This reminds me of my favorite Cher song.

You have a favorite Cher song ?????

.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by sarettah

You have a favorite Cher song ?????

.

think about it ........

[beenthereb4]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

This reminds me of my favorite Cher song.

of course "you better sit down kids "

[the Shemp]

"90% of the female profiles are fake!"

more shattered dreams ...

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by CandidHotties

i was "engaged in false lead generation and confirmation on the Live Free Fun offer"

Send some leads to our program and I will tell you if I think you make real of false signups.

[Alex21]

Originally Posted by sarettah

You have a favorite Cher song ?????

.

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by the Shemp

"90% of the female profiles are fake!"

more shattered dreams ...

You mean...all of those girls IMing me as soon as I visit the page don't really live in my area and want to fuck ASAP??? ...that can't be true

[the Shemp]

Originally Posted by anexsia

You mean...all of those girls IMing me as soon as I visit the page don't really live in my area and want to fuck ASAP??? ...that can't be true

...who knew ?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

think about it ........

I'd really rather not. I just finished dinner

.

[L-Pink]

Gypsies tramps and thieves came to mind,

[Juicy D. Links]

I wuz here

[Tom_PM]

Well, it started out as if you were saying "hey, they suspended my account because of some domain that I honestly don't own" and then it turned into something totally unrelated.

If someone terminates or suspends an account because of activities by someone who isn't you on a domain that isn't yours and beyond any control of yours, then you have my sympathy.

If you're saying that they should not suspend people who send fake leads because they are somehow fake too, well that's something else. Reminds me of a motorist complaining to a cop that the speed limit should be higher.

Good luck to .. whoever needs it and deserves it, lol. Confusing.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Gypsies tramps and thieves came to mind,

Fuck, I knew I shouldn't have come back to the thread. The one or two lines of that thing that my brain remembers will be running through my head for the rest of the night.

dammit.

.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

This reminds me of my favorite Cher song.

do you sing it in the mirror like buffalo bill? (silence of the lambs style)

[Captain Kawaii]

Thread of broken dreams. Guess I'll have to wank or hit a bar. Dating twickery...

[bluebook18]

let's hear them

bump for you..

[CurrentlySober]

I remember creating a profile on a dating site back in about 2004... I said in my profile that I was really into eating dogshit, and looking for a female to join me for a 'meal'...

Sure enough within a few days I had about 20 pornstars, all local to me, who also just love nothing more than eating dogshit, and if I paid 29.99 a month, I could contact them

I couldn't afford the 29.99 though, so I guess I missed out

[MassMarketing]

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...ofiles-n237626

[CamTraffic]

You lost me at "whatever" (the 4th one)

[bernieburns]

Something went wrong with that thread?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

I remember creating a profile on a dating site back in about 2004... I said in my profile that I was really into eating dogshit, and looking for a female to join me for a 'meal'...

Sure enough within a few days I had about 20 pornstars, all local to me, who also just love nothing more than eating dogshit, and if I paid 29.99 a month, I could contact them

I couldn't afford the 29.99 though, so I guess I missed out

trying too woo the ladies with mikky D's? 30 bucks on the value meal dog shit galore!!

[CandidHotties]

Originally Posted by bernieburns

Something went wrong with that thread?

The usual forum trolls just found it .that's what's went wrong

[DonJon69]

What did they say you did wrong?

Where you sending fake leads or not?

I would try and contact them again and get the two am to speak to each other.

It's never a good thing to lose a sponsor. You never know when you may want to use them again.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by Tom_PM

If someone terminates or suspends an account because of activities by someone who isn't you on a domain that isn't yours and beyond any control of yours, then you have my sympathy.

If you're saying that they should not suspend people who send fake leads because they are somehow fake too, well that's something else.

This is what I was going to post as well. As soon as you started going on a rant on the adult dating industry (which you were trying to make fun of), you lost my sympathy.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

This is what I was going to post as well. As soon as you started going on a rant on the adult dating industry (which you were trying to make fun of), you lost my sympathy.

Same - It kind comes across that he realises he was wrong but it's OK because Crak are as well...

Lets face it, we all know what happens to those emails once Crak get hold of them - However, if the first part of his complaint (the bit before the rant) is valid then Crak owe him an explanation.....

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

This is what I was going to post as well. As soon as you started going on a rant on the adult dating industry (which you were trying to make fun of), you lost my sympathy.

Make money off of*

brainfart

[datingbanking]

He should have used those:

www.youtube.com/embed/8aoTjDhH2nM

Might have made him 'real' sales :-)

[CandidHotties]

Ok so i got some time to explain how things worked out with the problem i have with crakrevenue

The first message i got from one of the AM's
***How do you generate traffic and where is it coming from? We know you promote our offer through cam69.us and it's hiding the redirection domain which we don't allow. If you want to keep that domain, you will need to use a 307 redirect which is also called a temporary redirect.

Would it be possible for you to provide us with your traffic sources ASAP, please.

We had suspicious activity on our offers, so please provide your traffic sources, otherwise your account will be disabled.***

My reply was:
***I do not promote through cam69 and i do not own that domain. in fact it is the first time i hear about that domain!
My traffic sources are :
***.com ( all domains list provided)
***tumblr
***facebook
and everything else..to make sure they got al;l info from me.

The second reply from crakrevenue

Thank you for the inputs, it clarifies a lot of things.

I know you've been doing business with us for a while now and we are grateful for that, but the thing is that something has changed in your recent activities. Indeed, we had alerts that your ratios were really uncommon, so we investigated. I am truly sorry if you felt accused, but a part of my job is also to make sure that the traffic is legit. I had a look at your sources going to LiveFreeFun in Google Analytics and that's where I discovered cam69.us. 10.29.2014-15.58.25 - M4ud3.R's library

Your account will not be disabled and we will keep monitoring your stats, like we do with all our affiliates. At the moment, the quality of the traffic on LiveFreeFun is poor and below our provider requirements: none of the leads you sent converted to a paid membership. I still have a little leeway, but not that much. Don't forget that qualified traffic is the key to success. ;)

I talked to Etienne and your new account manager will be Thierry! He should be in touch with you shortly.


My reply to this message was:

Hello Maude,
I received the message. about that website. i made some researches myself.i really don't know how that website could have been linked to my account.I found out that it has been present on GFY forum and sold around date of : 09-22-2010


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What i can say is that at that time i didn't even knew about GFY or anything about adult biz
My username on GFY is candidhotties and the date that i registered is 09.26.2012

I also found out that domain cam69 is somehow related to Bulgaria/ bulgarian webmaster / hosting plan ( whois results)

What i cannot understand is why my affiliate id is present on that tracker? As i can see now exactly what you meant. the mytoslutroulette campaign id and affiliate number id

If needed i can provide info with all ( and only domains) i have and you will see that this cam69 domain is not present.
If the cam69 webmaster has been also signed up with crakrevenue.com or other links that are pointing to this domain , i presume they can be verified.

Anyways, thank you for your support and understanding and i look forward to be contacted by Thierry.
Meanwhile i will remove old crakrev links and change with new ones. so i can see if the same thing appears.

The third message from crakrev:
I figured it was not your affiliate ID when I investigated deeper. Thanks again for the relevant information.

After couple of days i got this message from my "new" crakrevenue Afiliate Manager Thierry

Hi Robert**,

After reviewing your account, we found unusual results and activity. This email is to inform you that your account has been closed and all payments have been suspended until further notice.

The ratio of your hits/leads in CrakRevenue is really uncommon and we could not find any of your sources.

None of the leads you sent converted to a paid membership.

Accepting such poorly performing traffic puts our deal with the provider into jeopardy as they are paying for leads that should convert into a spending member.

The combination of both these factors results in us choosing to part ways. We wish you the best of luck and hope your traffic can convert with another company.

Regards,

My reply to this message was:

I received a message that say ( on 7 November) that my account was suspended and all payments suspended for suspicious activity.

I already provided all info and explanations
regarding my account and traffic sources couple of days ago to your coleague MAUDE ****

After reviewing my response i got a positive response as it concerns my account.

I provided all details about my traffic and also
i have proven that i do not have anything to do with that cam69 domain that was sending fake traffic.

I am from almost two years with crakrevenue
and i wouldn't do anything to get my account closed!

Also, as i understood the problem was mostly with livefreefun signups that were very poor, but as a total i understood that my traffic had some conversions as well.

What do you mean by" we could not find any of your sources."? i provided all my main traffic sources in my reply email at that time.

I also informed Mrs MAUDE *** that i am working on changing all the links with new ones so there will be no more issues in the future. i also disabled some of my traffic generating pages until i add the new crakrevenue campaign links.

It's very suspicious to me as well that now when the payout term is approaching i get this kind of evasive and explanation about my account.

Please get in touch with me as soon as possible.

Thank you

The response was:
After a thorough investigation of your account, we found undeniable proof that you engaged in false lead generation and confirmation on the Live Free Fun offerWe do not take these matter lightly and we have diligently reviewed all the transactions on your account since the beginning of October 2014. The results were irrefutable and as such, we have no other choice but to terminate our business relationship. As stated in our previous email, your account is definitely closed and all pending amounts are forfeited. Furthermore, we would like to inform you that this decision is final and that their is no appeal process.


So: Same Cam69 shitty website that i do now own or never owned or never had anything to do with it!,Same shitty website that caused me troubles. I thought i have already cleared up things on this shit! It looks like i didn't. or maybe they don't communicate from one Am to another and even tho i sent all relevant info about my traffic, and even if i got assured that they figured out it wasn't me ....turns out that the new AM didn't took all this into consideration. Or maybe simply he didn't got any message from the previous AM with whom i was in contact regarding this matter.

[TeenCat]

looks like they do not care to explain this one ... ?

[CPA-Rush]

dick heads **

[CPA-Rush]

u can send me your traffic if it doesn?t convert to sales ...legit though

[CandidHotties]

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush

u can send me your traffic if it doesn?t convert to sales ...legit though

Actually i did registered for a bongacash account couple of days ago.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

looks like they do not care to explain this one ... ?

well if they think its fraud nope

[CandidHotties]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

well if they think its fraud nope

How convenient...

[CPA-Rush]

Originally Posted by CandidHotties

Actually i did registered for a bongacash account couple of days ago.

ok good luck , let me know if it doesn?t meet minimum productivity.. i may be able to take that traffic for ok price .

[Tagir]

My account also disabled recently! With them, I worked for a long time! Crakrevenue is scam and cheaters!

[crak_vince]

Originally Posted by CandidHotties

How convenient...

Hey CandidHotties,

When you want to have a problem or dispute resolved for the better with a sponsor, washing your dirty laundry in public is hardly the best way to proceed.

About the specific matter that lead to the creation of this thread, my AM team brought me up to speed on the case and the reasons behind the suspension of your account.

If you're not satisfied with the explanations that were provided to you, hit me up on skype, I'll be happy to provide you with any clarification you need.

Cheers.

[CandidHotties]

Originally Posted by crak_vince

Hey CandidHotties,

When you want to have a problem or dispute resolved for the better with a sponsor, washing your dirty laundry in public is hardly the best way to proceed.

About the specific matter that lead to the creation of this thread, my AM team brought me up to speed on the case and the reasons behind the suspension of your account.

If you're not satisfied with the explanations that were provided to you, hit me up on skype, I'll be happy to provide you with any clarification you need.

Cheers.

I don't consider this as "washing my dirty laundry in public". I just followed the exact pattern like every webmaster who had issues with any CPA network or merchant has done.

And yes, the explanations provided were not satisfactory at all. As you can clearly see from the conversation i had with your AM's.

And before i posted this, i tried to contact on skype any AM involved in my case
-Maude
-Thierry
-Etienne ( e responded me twice saying that he's looking into my problem, then he replied that my case will be analyzed by Thierry)

After my account was suspended i also tried to contact same AM's by skype, ( so i don't wash my dirty laundry in public" ) but no response from any of your staff.

No reply was received whatsoever

So what should i have done in this situation?

[CandidHotties]

Everything sorted out with Vince, my account will be restored
Thanks Vince

[Mediamix]

Originally Posted by CandidHotties

Everything sorted out with Vince, my account will be restored
Thanks Vince

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by CandidHotties

Everything sorted out with Vince, my account will be restored
Thanks Vince

Vammmoooooo' ...