Did anyone think we didn't use torture?

[slapass]

This is like the Snowden thing. Did you think the govt left your emails alone? Your facebook? Phone calls?

I assume they listen to and read everything. Why wouldn't they?

Same with torture. Why wouldn't they use it? I was surprised at how primitive it seemed to be though. Where are the jumper cables? The psycho drugs? etc?

[Spunky]

Probably a lot more that hasn't been reported

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Probably a lot more that hasn't been reported

I hate to sound too weird but I hope so. James Bond is more impressive.

[RummyBoy]

Originally Posted by slapass

I hate to sound too weird but I hope so.

Its probably against International Law. Maybe Geneva Convention or UN Convention on Torture? Im guessing because I can't remember the law in that specific area but if it has been broken then expect those cruel tactics to also be used against your own country armed forces...

As now, the US loses moral high ground and has a problem to criticize the use of torture by say other groups or countries and so on. I guess it causes big problems for the US legally and morally and sets some kind of precedent.

[dyna mo]

CIA chief George Tenet in 2007: "We don't torture people"

George Tenet in 2007: "We don't torture people" - Videos - CBS News

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

Its probably against International Law. Maybe Geneva Convention or UN Convention on Torture? Im guessing because I can't remember the law in that specific area but if it has been broken then expect those cruel tactics to also be used against your own country armed forces...

As now, the US loses moral high ground and has a problem to criticize the use of torture by say other groups or countries and so on. I guess it causes big problems for the US legally and morally and sets some kind of precedent.

was watching an interview with an ex-CIA chief, he stated that it is in fact moral for the CIA to torture people because the motivation behind it is good.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by slapass

Same with torture. Why wouldn't they use it?

Because it doesn't work and leads to false info. One of the tortured made up the story about Iraq being linked to Al Qaeda which Bush used as a reason to invade Iraq.

The report claims not one piece of valuable info came from these interrogations.

Bush and Cheney committed war crimes and should be brought to justice.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Because it doesn't work and leads to false info. One of the tortured made up the story about Iraq being linked to Al Qaeda which Bush used as a reason to invade Iraq.

The report claims not one piece of valuable info came from these interrogations.

Bush and Cheney committed war crimes and should be brought to justice.

If it did, they would never tell anyone.

My favorite part is what countries jumped up to point the finger.

[Jet Set Cat]

Anyone reasonable person certainly would, this country is structured around torture.
Just look at our penal system and ask yourself if we treat criminals the way we do (many that are convicted of minor offenses) just imagine how we would treat a POW?
Anyone who thinks differently should wake up and smell the roses.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Jet Set Cat

Anyone reasonable person certainly would, this country is structured around torture.
Just look at our penal system and ask yourself if we treat criminals the way we do (many that are convicted of minor offenses) just imagine how we would treat a POW?
Anyone who thinks differently should wake up and smell the roses.

nonsense. this country is structured around torture? please, just stop.

[Scott McD]

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by slapass

This is like the Snowden thing. Did you think the govt left your emails alone? Your facebook? Phone calls?

I assume they listen to and read everything. Why wouldn't they?

Same with torture. Why wouldn't they use it? I was surprised at how primitive it seemed to be though. Where are the jumper cables? The psycho drugs? etc?

well the US government cluster bombs civilians on a regular basis so whats a little torture?

[RummyBoy]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

well the US government cluster bombs civilians on a regular basis so whats a little torture?

They don't use nuclear bombs on civilians often..... well they did but only on two occasions.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

well the US government cluster bombs civilians on a regular basis so whats a little torture?

you're the one posting like this is some big revelation.

fyi brainiac, we've been clusterbombing dumbfucks like you and your ilk for decades.

please feel free to go pick up an unexploded one, I'm sure there are a few outside that lean-to you sleep in.

[Seth Manson]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you're the one posting like this is some big revelation.

fyi brainiac, we've been clusterbombing dumbfucks like you and your ilk for decades.

please feel free to go pick up an unexploded one, I'm sure there are a few outside that lean-to you sleep in.

He's mad because his sister was giving blowjobs to the US soldiers, and he didnt get one.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

nonsense. this country is structured around torture? please, just stop.

ask the native americans or negroes about how the US gov treated them

oh and my shit hole 3rd world country has, depending on what year, at least 100x smaller murder rate by cop, at best 200x less people are killed by cops every year

cant find precise statistics, because 100+ people are killed total, but the huge majority is by criminals not cops, and US cops kill 400 in just one year...

dont feel bad tho, we have 20-40x less rape than the USA (this is per capita not total) so you can now proceed to call me a rapist

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

He's mad because his sister was giving blowjobs to the US soldiers, and he didnt get one.

dude the USA was actually on my side I fled to serbia because it was the only place that did not want me to go to war I was fucking your mother at the time, changing poses on her mouth, so dont be too worried about my mr.shiney

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

fyi brainiac, we've been clusterbombing dumbfucks like you and your ilk for decades.

funny you should call me braniac when the cluster bombs you dropped that I personally saw were at the chineese embassy in belgrade

can you imagine what a dumb shit you have to be, to hit the wrong building in a street where there are only 2 buildings, one is the giant chineese pagoda thing, and one sells hunting weapons (the original target)

only the US army is dumb enough to actually employ people who are dumb enough to actually cluster bomb a foreign embassy

oh and the buildings are like a mile apart...you really really really have to be a dumb fuck to miss the kind of dumb fuck that only the US amry can recruit

can you imagine the level of retard that does not see this is an embassy?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

ask the native americans or negroes about how the US gov treated them

oh and my shit hole 3rd world country has, depending on what year, at least 100x smaller murder rate by cop, at best 200x less people are killed by cops every year

cant find precise statistics, because 100+ people are killed total, but the huge majority is by criminals not cops, and US cops kill 400 in just one year...

dont feel bad tho, we have 20-40x less rape than the USA (this is per capita not total) so you can now proceed to call me a rapist

native AMericans? Are you that fucking stupid to actually believe that shit?

another fyi brainiac, they were NOT native americans you dumbfuck.

and yet another fyi brianiac, you again mention blacks struggle as some sort of big revelation when it's common knowledge each and every fucking race that's come to America struggled to find its' place.

dumbfuck.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

funny you should call me braniac when the cluster bombs you dropped that I personally saw were at the chineese embassy in belgrade

can you imagine what a dumb shit you have to be, to hit the wrong building in a street where there are only 2 buildings, one is the giant chineese pagoda thing, and one sells hunting weapons (the original target)

only the US army is dumb enough to actually employ people who are dumb enough to actually cluster bomb a foreign embassy

oh and the buildings are like a mile apart...you really really really have to be a dumb fuck to miss the kind of dumb fuck that only the US amry can recruit

can you imagine the level of retard that does not see this is an embassy?

not even a nice try dumbfuck. You're bitching about cluster bombs yet don't realize the problem with cluster bombs is they are not precise.

dumbfuck.

[CDSmith]

Oh no. Not another thread rife with crucifissio the angry Serb's flying smiley attack.











Whatever will we do?

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

not even a nice try dumbfuck. You're bitching about cluster bombs yet don't realize the problem with cluster bombs is they are not precise.

dumbfuck.

you stupid shit, the next building was a mile away, the embassy took a direct hit, just like your head when you were a little kid, and the clusters exploded for hours afterwards, in a 100% civilian area, with the next military building being a hospital that is 5 miles away...we had to use metal dumpsters to rescue firemen hit by the clusters, who went to put out a fire...

[slapass]

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

Its probably against International Law. Maybe Geneva Convention or UN Convention on Torture? Im guessing because I can't remember the law in that specific area but if it has been broken then expect those cruel tactics to also be used against your own country armed forces...

As now, the US loses moral high ground and has a problem to criticize the use of torture by say other groups or countries and so on. I guess it causes big problems for the US legally and morally and sets some kind of precedent.

We have a place set up to do it, Guantanamo Bay. This is known by everyone. We are not shy about admitting we do it. So as far as I can tell, we have always done it and just continued to do it.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

you stupid shit, the next building was a mile away, the embassy took a direct hit, just like your head when you were a little kid, and the clusters exploded for hours afterwards, in a 100% civilian area, with the next military building being a hospital that is 5 miles away...we had to use metal dumpsters to rescue firemen hit by the clusters, who went to put out a fire...

yet again dumbfuck, the issue with cluster bombs is they are not precise and the bomblets do not all explode. you brought it up you stupid fucking rapist.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

yet again dumbfuck, the issue with cluster bombs is they are not precise and the bomblets do not all explode. you brought it up you stupid fucking rapist.

bullshit, your bombs do not miss...maybe 5 meters left or right but not an entire building by a MILE ...I am a first had witness I know better than you US boys ...

you hit the chineese embassy out of utter stupidity...even if you hit the original target it would have been 2x as stupid because they really really produce just hunting rifles to this day they sell hunting gear

[hadden]

They master full spectrum dominance at home on the unsuspecting to apply abroad on the expecting.

[seeandsee]

I love when there is no jail for torture, they can do what ever they want

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

bullshit, your bombs do not miss...maybe 5 meters left or right but not an entire building by a MILE ...I am a first had witness I know better than you US boys ...

you hit the chineese embassy out of utter stupidity...even if you hit the original target it would have been 2x as stupid because they really really produce just hunting rifles to this day they sell hunting gear

our bombs don't miss? jesus fucking christ you are an absolute dumbfuck.

it's funny to me how in one thread you can talk about you and your fellows raping women during wartime as if you are some hardened war dude, then be fully fucking stupid about how inaccurate dropping bombs can be.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

our bombs don't miss? jesus fucking christ you are an absolute dumbfuck.

it's funny to me how in one thread you can talk about you and your fellows raping women during wartime as if you are some hardened war dude, then be fully fucking stupid about how inaccurate dropping bombs can be.

I have no "fellows" I am a double refugee, so I can not be a hardened war dude because I was never in any war, just one step ahead it is not my fault that serbia was the only place that did not want to force draft me, it is actually your governments fault for giving support to the ones who did want to draft me I was "yugoslavian" so I could not run to say monaco LOL I could run to a place where there was no war: serbia...

it was a direct hit, the USA said it was very very very sorry and that it was a "mistake in intelligence" the building took a direct hit, even though it is substantially different from the hunting gear building, being that it is built in chineese pagoda style and has a chineese flag and there were, at the time, only 2 buildings in the street, a mile fucking apart...

your cruise missiles, like the tomahawk that hit the building, carrying the cluster bombs, are "pin point precise", let me illustrate with the fact that the US army actually hit the office of the ministry of communications right in the place where his desk was (thank you so much the guy was irritating as fuck ) ...

get over it: your missiles do not miss by a mile, you employ dumb fucks who are so dumb they have to concentrate just to stay alive

it is true, the USA has a lot of scientists, who for the most part, do not work for the army, but the army has $$$ and gets to cherry pick...the US army is full of dumb fucks, because you have never won a war in your entire history, you are a joke, and are capable of attacking only 3rd world bush people like me

[DWB]

The US Embassy in Bangkok sent us alerts this morning saying that Americans may be in danger abroad due to the release of the report. Talk about irony. The CIA tortures the fuck out of these people for "freedom" and to protect Americans, only to end up putting more Americans in danger.

Total. Fucking. Idiots.

Every single person involved should be fired immediately. However, they will toss someone under the bus, maybe even two people, and it will be business as usual. Only next time they will hide it a little better.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I have no "fellows" I am a double refugee, so I can not be a hardened war dude because I was never in any war, just one step ahead it is not my fault that serbia was the only place that did not want to force draft me, it is actually your governments fault for giving support to the ones who did want to draft me I was "yugoslavian" so I could not run to say monaco LOL I could run to a place where there was no war: serbia...

it was a direct hit, the USA said it was very very very sorry and that it was a "mistake in intelligence" the building took a direct hit, even though it is substantially different from the hunting gear building, being that it is built in chineese pagoda style and has a chineese flag and there were, at the time, only 2 buildings in the street, a mile fucking apart...

your cruise missiles, like the tomahawk that hit the building, carrying the cluster bombs, are "pin point precise", let me illustrate with the fact that the US army actually hit the office of the ministry of communications right in the place where his desk was (thank you so much the guy was irritating as fuck ) ...

get over it: your missiles do not miss by a mile, you employ dumb fucks who are so dumb they have to concentrate just to stay alive

it is true, the USA has a lot of scientists, who for the most part, do not work for the army, but the army has $$$ and bets to cherry pick...the US army is full of dumb fucks, because you have never won a war in your entire history, you are a joke, and are capable of attacking only 3rd world bush people like me

as per your usual bullshit, your miserable life is because of, you know, 'Merica, fuck yeah.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

I love when there is no jail for torture, they can do what ever they want

Criminal.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

as per your usual bullshit, your miserable life is because of, you know, 'Merica, fuck yeah.

20 years of sanctions and war and thousands of bombs, all courtesy of the US gov. did wonders for my financial situation

I don't recall imposing sanctions upon myself, I did not back separatists like the US gov and the bombs that went boom were not fired from my ships and planes since the only ones I have are RC

so yes I kinda blame the USA but this is hard for some americans to understand because it confuses them that somebody would object to their life being completely ruined because bill "i did not have sex with that woman" clinton and george "wmd in iraq" bush said so...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

20 years of sanctions and war and thousands of bombs, all courtesy of the US gov. did wonders for my financial situation

I don't recall imposing sanctions upon myself, I did not back separatists like the US gov and the bombs that went boom were not fired from my ships and planes since the only ones I have are RC

so yes I kinda blame the USA but this is hard for some americans to understand because it confuses them that somebody would object to their life being completely ruined because bill "i did not have sex with that woman" clinton and george "wmd in iraq" bush said so...

you should be getting on your knees every night and thanking the USA, jesus fucking christ and bill clinton for what we did in Kosovo.

dumbfuck.

[Seth Manson]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

20 years of sanctions and war and thousands of bombs, all courtesy of the US gov. did wonders for my financial situation

I don't recall imposing sanctions upon myself, I did not back separatists like the US gov and the bombs that went boom were not fired from my ships and planes since the only ones I have are RC

so yes I kinda blame the USA but this is hard for some americans to understand because it confuses them that somebody would object to their life being completely ruined because bill "i did not have sex with that woman" clinton and george "wmd in iraq" bush said so...

And of course, the genocide going on at the time had nothing to do with it. We just felt like fucking up your neighborhood one day. For no reason at all.

Dont be mad at the treatment, be mad at the disease. In this case the disease was Slobodan Milo?ević. But dont be mad at him, be mad at the clusterbombs. You fucking Serb idiot.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you should be getting on your knees every night and thanking the USA, jesus fucking christ and bill clinton for what we did in Kosovo.

dumbfuck.

You are one messed up dude.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

And of course, the genocide going on at the time had nothing to do with it. We just felt like fucking up your neighborhood one day. For no reason at all.

Dont be mad at the treatment, be mad at the disease. In this case the disease was Slobodan Milo?ević. But dont be mad at him, be mad at the clusterbombs. You fucking Serb idiot.

Eh. It's selective treatment, and there was probably something to be gained from it. The USA gives fuck all when the same thing happens in Africa or parts of Asia.

I too would be angry at an invading force who fucked my country up. Especially, if I had nothing to do with anything and was just a normal civilian. Americans have been attacked twice really. Once at Pearl Harbor, and again on 9/11. Americans poured their hatred towards both the Japanese and Arabs at the time, and it even came from people who had no skin in the game whatsoever, living in Idaho. Invaders are hated. Even if they are doing it for the right reasons, because so many innocent people get fucked up in the process.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by slapass

You are one messed up dude.

I could not give one single shit what your internet psychological profile of me based on gfy posts concludes other than to point out how completely fucking stupid you are to think you can assess psychological profiles of people based on gfy posts.

either way, thanks for letting me know I get to you enough to warrant your profiling.



you= dumbfuck #2 in this thread. well, technically dumbfuck #1 since you started this thread.

I contributed too(my first couple of posts), but you're too fucking uptight about something I posted on gfy somewhere in the past to ackknowledge that.

you are over your head here, as you are on most things gfy.

gofuckyourself.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by DWB

Eh. It's selective treatment, and there was probably something to be gained from it. The USA gives fuck all when the same thing happens in Africa or parts of Asia.

I too would be angry at an invading force who fucked my country up. Especially, if I had nothing to do with anything and was just a normal civilian. Americans have been attacked twice really. Once at Pearl Harbor, and again on 9/11. Americans poured their hatred towards both the Japanese and Arabs at the time, and it even came from people who had no skin in the game whatsoever, living in Idaho. Invaders are hated. Even if they are doing it for the right reasons, because so many innocent people get fucked up in the process.

none of this has jackshit to do with Kosovo.

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

And of course, the genocide going on at the time had nothing to do with it. We just felt like fucking up your neighborhood one day. For no reason at all.

Dont be mad at the treatment, be mad at the disease. In this case the disease was Slobodan Milo?ević. But dont be mad at him, be mad at the clusterbombs. You fucking Serb idiot.

Best of all is that there are still people out there that believe in lies/ I guess it is easy , when you target population without knowledge on topic, or basic history education. Must be true, whatever you hear on TV.

[dyna mo]

Even though greetings were temporary, during initial incursion the US soldiers were greeted by Albanians young and old cheering and throwing flowers as US Soldiers and KFOR rolled through their villages.


http://www.kosovo.net/news/archive/2...sg-5141-2.html

[slapass]

Originally Posted by DWB

The US Embassy in Bangkok sent us alerts this morning saying that Americans may be in danger abroad due to the release of the report. Talk about irony. The CIA tortures the fuck out of these people for "freedom" and to protect Americans, only to end up putting more Americans in danger.

Total. Fucking. Idiots.

Every single person involved should be fired immediately. However, they will toss someone under the bus, maybe even two people, and it will be business as usual. Only next time they will hide it a little better.

So where you live do they use these tactics?

Off topic but can you imagine fighting with the police and telling them to just leave you alone there? I bet that would go well.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you should be getting on your knees every night and thanking the USA, jesus fucking christ and bill clinton for what we did in Kosovo.

dumbfuck.

how ironic is it that I fled to kosovo from croatia? very ironic LOL It made me a double refugee...like that 2 and a half men show I am 2 and a half refugees because I had to flee to belgrade from kosovo and was met with more bombs (ok to be fair it was not war just bombing) so I went to russia

thanks bill clinton!

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

And of course, the genocide going on at the time had nothing to do with it. We just felt like fucking up your neighborhood one day. For no reason at all.

no genocide going on before the USA gave support to separatists and nationalists in my country...we had more peace than the USA ever knew...shit you can not even handle trvyon martin and this brown kid all shit breaks loose...how about somebody sends the black people some air support and heavy weapons like the USA did in my country?

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Dont be mad at the treatment, be mad at the disease. In this case the disease was Slobodan Milo?ević. But dont be mad at him, be mad at the clusterbombs. You fucking Serb idiot.

so dont be mad at alquaida and over 9/11 be mad at bill clinton and bush? and I am not serb you illiterate retard LOL

[dyna mo]

there was no alert issued from the US embassy in Bangkok.

if there were, it would be listed on this page-
Alerts and Warnings

it's not.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

none of this has jackshit to do with Kosovo.

It has to do with how the US responds to genocide, which has plenty to do with Kosovo (and Bosnia, Croatia ) or any other country the US or NATO selectively supports.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I could not give one single shit what your internet psychological profile of me based on gfy posts concludes other than to point out how completely fucking stupid you are to think you can assess psychological profiles of people based on gfy posts.

either way, thanks for letting me know I get to you enough to warrant your profiling.



you= dumbfuck #2 in this thread. well, technically dumbfuck #1 since you started this thread.

I contributed too(my first couple of posts), but you're too fucking uptight about something I posted on gfy somewhere in the past to ackknowledge that.

you are over your head here, as you are on most things gfy.

gofuckyourself.

Did you just assess me based on my GFY posts? Let's just say we are two guys who would not enjoy having a beer together.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by DWB

It has to do with how the US responds to genocide, which has plenty to do with Kosovo (and Bosnia, Croatia ) or any other country the US or NATO selectively supports.

no, it doesn't.

this is what you said

Eh. It's selective treatment, and there was probably something to be gained from it. The USA gives fuck all when the same thing happens in Africa or parts of Asia.

I too would be angry at an invading force who fucked my country up. Especially, if I had nothing to do with anything and was just a normal civilian. Americans have been attacked twice really. Once at Pearl Harbor, and again on 9/11. Americans poured their hatred towards both the Japanese and Arabs at the time, and it even came from people who had no skin in the game whatsoever, living in Idaho. Invaders are hated. Even if they are doing it for the right reasons, because so many innocent people get fucked up in the process.

that in no way whatsoever applies to Kosovo.

[- Jesus Christ -]

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by slapass

Did you just assess me based on my GFY posts? Let's just say we are two guys who would not enjoy having a beer together.

dumbfuck, it was an observation of your gfy internet psych diagnosis. If you think that was an assesment, you truly are over your head when you try to communicate with the adults.

a beer? Huh? having a beer with a gfy dumbfuck like you has never crossed my mind so I truly have no idea where the fuck that comment comes from. no, I prefer drinking beer with people who are enjoyable to be around and can carry on an adult convo, that's why I've never entertained even slightly the notion of having a beer with your ilk.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

no, it doesn't.

this is what you said



that in no way whatsoever applies to Kosovo.

OK, OK, you're right.

I'll leave you to argue with the others. I have work to do.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by DWB

OK, OK, you're right.

I'll leave you to argue with the others. I have work to do.

I actually entered this thread agreeing with the OP and providing 2 posts doing that.

But when the anti-american bullshitters chimed in, then the anti-dyna mo dumbfuck felt the need to post a internet psych profile, I simply replied by pointing out the rhetoric for what it was- misleading bullshit.