Apple 'deeply offended' by BBC investigation - GoFuckYourself.com

wehateporn · 12-19-2014, 03:45 PM

Apple has said it is "deeply offended" by a BBC investigation into conditions for workers involved in manufacturing its devices.

Rules on workers' hours, ID cards, dormitories, work meetings and juvenile workers were routinely breached, the Panorama programme witnessed.

In a staff email, senior Apple executive Jeff Williams said he knew of no other company doing as much as Apple to improve conditions.

But he added: "We can still do better."

Panorama's editor Ceri Thomas said he stood by the programme's journalism.

He said the team had found an exhausted workforce making Apple products in China, as well as children working in extremely dangerous tin mines in Bangka, Indonesia.

"While Apple did confirm earlier this year that it gets tin from Bangka, it had never been confirmed whether illegal tin was entering their supply chain," he said.

"We got the first evidence of this on our trip.

"We told Apple what we had found almost two months ago. Although Apple was happy to give us a non-attributable briefing, we were disappointed that the company wasn't prepared to explain its position on camera."

Continued BBC News - Apple 'deeply offended' by BBC investigation

fappingJack · 12-19-2014, 06:54 PM

Rotten apple. Apple sucks.

shoot twice · 12-20-2014, 04:23 AM

Hmmm
Normally whenever someone mentions "Apple" in this forum there's a slew of comments praising them.

All I can say is I visited an Apple store once.... I swear there was people in there with looks on their faces that gave me the impression that they would willing drink cyanide-laced kool-aid for Apple.

Between the cult like gaze of some of the fans and price... I left. I can make do with what my no-name 2nd hand junk.

Paul&John · 12-20-2014, 04:47 AM

I'm not defending Apple, but I'm pretty sure that's the case with most of the electronics made in China :|

MPGdevil · 12-20-2014, 07:15 AM

Nothing new, every year is new reports.

Others may do the same to an extent, but none of those are #1 on list of money making, wallet raping and pompous companies.

shoot twice · 12-20-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

I'm pretty sure that's the case with most of the electronics made in China :|

Still doesn't make it right.

2MuchMark · 12-20-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice

Hmmm
Normally whenever someone mentions "Apple" in this forum there's a slew of comments praising them.

HelloooOooooo... ! ;)

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Originally Posted by shoot twice

All I can say is I visited an Apple store once.... I swear there was people in there with looks on their faces that gave me the impression that they would willing drink cyanide-laced kool-aid for Apple.

When I go in, I see lots of happy customers parting with their hard-earned cash and walking out with lots of shiny new computers & gadgets with big smiles on their faces.

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Originally Posted by shoot twice

Between the cult like gaze of some of the fans and price... I left. I can make do with what my no-name 2nd hand junk.

I'll never understand why some people call Apple customers cultists, or sheeples, or whatever. They have good products, good marketing, and fantastic customer support, all creating brand loyalty and repeat business. Works for me.

shoot twice · 12-20-2014, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

HelloooOooooo... ! ;)
I'll never understand why some people call Apple customers cultists, or sheeples, or whatever. They have good products, good marketing, and fantastic customer support, all creating brand loyalty and repeat business. Works for me.

It's just another computer (telephone or whatever)

There's nothing special about...
It's not going to save the world...
it's not going to bring in a new era of peace and prosperity...
It's not going to suddenly morph into a holodeck or beam a an android name DATA into your home

Again it's just another computer. Some of these "Apple Fans" get more boogled eyed misty talking about a machine that's going to be obsolete in a year than they do about their own flesh and blood family.

Furthermore Achmed (no joke) the Arab that owns the computer store down the street from me can build me bigger and better computer for 33% of the cost compared to Apple. When there's a problem with my computer I can telephone Achmed and he answers the phone himself. If he can't talk me through the problem on the phone, then I drop it off the next morning and pick it up late afternoon. 99% of the time he doesn't charge me a dime for the repair. But if he actually has to replace a part, he gives me a great deal on it and the labor.

And surprising for all this GReaT CUstoMEr SErVIce that Achmed gives me... I still don't feel the need to convert to Islam or camp out in front of his store for 3 days.

iSpyCams · 12-20-2014, 04:13 PM

mineistaken · 12-20-2014, 05:01 PM

What does apple have to do with it? It is Pegatron, not apple.
If I order my big mac at mcd while they mistreat their employees it is not my fault.
Morons.

Dvae · 12-20-2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

What does apple have to do with it? It is Pegatron, not apple.
If I order my big mac at mcd while they mistreat their employees it is not my fault.
Morons.

Did someone steal your GFY account?

You usually the first to poke fun at any Apple fanboys?

mineistaken · 12-20-2014, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

Did someone steal your GFY account?

You usually the first to poke fun at any Apple fanboys?

I am not a blind "hater", but rather an objective one

In some instances apple deserve some poking and in some - not.
And I am usually poking at brainwashed fanboys, not apple itself which I respect for great business/marketing

MPGdevil · 12-20-2014, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

What does apple have to do with it? It is Pegatron, not apple.
If I order my big mac at mcd while they mistreat their employees it is not my fault.
Morons.

Companies and end users always have a moral responsibility for what or where they buy their products/supplies.

Sure some people don't give a shit how the things they buy are made. Why not use a content producer beating up his models or not paying them if he's cheap.

Rochard · 12-20-2014, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

I'm not defending Apple, but I'm pretty sure that's the case with most of the electronics made in China :|

It's all the same shit. It's the same crap made by the same companies.

Angelo22 · 12-21-2014, 01:13 AM

They can be as offended as they want, but if they have nothing to hide there shouldn't be any problems...

mineistaken · 12-21-2014, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MPGdevil

Companies and end users always have a moral responsibility for what or where they buy their products/supplies.

Sure some people don't give a shit how the things they buy are made. Why not use a content producer beating up his models or not paying them if he's cheap.

I agree with moral responsibility, but still the company itself has WAY MORE responsibility than customers of that company. So in this case Pegatron should take 95% of the heat and customers such as apple maybe 5%. While sensationalists make it sound like it is 100% apple.

hadden · 12-21-2014, 06:32 AM

As a developer I am forced to support the purchasing habits of lemmings. Hello Mark prince.

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