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SNRProductions · 01-15-2015, 06:13 PM

Just got this email and thought it was pretty cool. I'm thinking this could be a great thing for our US customers

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Continuing to lead the way...

PayPal Rollout Expanded for Epoch Clients

Today we are pleased to announce the expansion of PayPal to our payment pages for all Epoch clients. You can now accept PayPal from consumers in the U.S., Europe and throughout the world.

This exclusive offering stems from our successful pilot program operated in Europe over the past year, the results of which greatly exceeded the expectations of both PayPal and Epoch. PayPal's iconic presence on our payment pages adds strength and exceptional brand recognition, especially in regions less likely to use credit cards. It is also ideal for swift mobile purchases or for surfers who prefer more anonymity.

With the end of the pilot program, now all clients in the US and the EU are eligible to accept PayPal. Additionally, consumers outside of the EU, including those in countries like the United States, Brazil, Canada, and more can now use their PayPal accounts to pay via Epoch.

No technical integration is required. We have a simple opt-in process by which you may set up your account to accept PayPal. Simply go to https://epoch.com/paypal and accept the terms and conditions.

We look forward to the possibilities the expanded PayPal acceptance brings to all Epoch clients. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact your account representative by replying to this email.

Andy Davis
[email protected]
1-888-627-3888 x307
ICQ: 480415839

Leading Through Innovation

SNRProductions · 01-15-2015, 06:14 PM

oops double post...

adultmobile · 01-15-2015, 06:17 PM

I got good sales for Paypal EU customers the past months. Adding US customers is great news.

SNRProductions · 01-15-2015, 06:18 PM

Don't forget to enable it in your account...it's not automatic.

yuu.design · 01-15-2015, 06:56 PM

wow, awesome news!

MassMarketing · 01-15-2015, 06:57 PM

Wow, good for epoch peeps

michael.kickass · 01-15-2015, 07:11 PM

awesome news!

Mark-G · 01-15-2015, 07:40 PM

wow, this is pretty big!

DMRC · 01-15-2015, 07:48 PM

Great news for sure.

Robbie · 01-15-2015, 08:21 PM

How is this possible?

Paypal is very, very strict about adult online. So how is Epoch getting them to change their policy?

yuu.design · 01-15-2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

How is this possible?

Paypal is very, very strict about adult online. So how is Epoch getting them to change their policy?

good point, paypal now accept porn ?

SplatterMaster · 01-15-2015, 08:30 PM

Sounds good. Hopefully others can secure a deal with PP also and maybe even one day PP will be offered without a middle man

TTI-Rich · 01-15-2015, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

How is this possible?

Paypal is very, very strict about adult online. So how is Epoch getting them to change their policy?

Exactly. Eventually PP will put the hammer down.

Rand · 01-15-2015, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

How is this possible?

Paypal is very, very strict about adult online. So how is Epoch getting them to change their policy?

We've operated a pilot program in the EU for the past year and we had such success that we were able to expand into other markets.

PayPal still does not allow individual accounts to accept payments in this merchant category code. But through our agreement with them we can offer this option as part of our suite of payment types.

We are very excited about the new possibilities this expansion presents.

Robbie · 01-15-2015, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rand

We've operated a pilot program in the EU for the past year and we had such success that we were able to expand into other markets.

PayPal still does not allow individual accounts to accept payments in this merchant category code. But through our agreement with them we can offer this option as part of our suite of payment types.

We are very excited about the new possibilities this expansion presents.

Everyone had "success" with Paypal...until they stopped it dead in the water.

How did you guys...out of everyone in the world...figure out how to get Paypal to accept payment for online porn?
If they even THINK you are in porn they usually shut down your account. So how did you guys get them to do it?

Give me some kind of answer that makes sense and I'll sign up to use Epoch for Paypal. I'm just confused as to how you can do that with a company whose TOS says you can't?

Rand · 01-15-2015, 09:29 PM

Epoch has been processing this category since 1996. PayPal allowed the year long pilot program and given that success, they were willing to allow us to have the expanded rollout.

This took months of work to be able to bring this option to our industry. All parties are obviously confident in moving forward.

iamBoogieman · 01-15-2015, 10:19 PM

Good news.

jaYMan · 01-15-2015, 10:23 PM

wow, pretty huge, congrats Epoch! & I got shut down over some nickels *sighs*

directfiesta · 01-15-2015, 10:37 PM

too bad some fuckers will bang cards thru x-sales , pre-checked sales. etc ....

In other words : making money out of their ass ....

The Porn Nerd · 01-15-2015, 11:48 PM

Game changer.

Congratulations to Epoch, a fine and outstanding company. Excellent news for everyone!

2MuchMark · 01-16-2015, 12:01 AM

Holy shit!!!!

Congratulations Epoch!! This is great news..!

lagcam · 01-16-2015, 12:09 AM

Epoch were already miles ahead of any other third party processor for variety of cards and payment methods accepted even without this.

I wouldn't mind a couple of percent off of the processing rate though

Relentless · 01-16-2015, 12:19 AM

Congrats Epoch!

k0nr4d · 01-16-2015, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Everyone had "success" with Paypal...until they stopped it dead in the water.

How did you guys...out of everyone in the world...figure out how to get Paypal to accept payment for online porn?
If they even THINK you are in porn they usually shut down your account. So how did you guys get them to do it?

Give me some kind of answer that makes sense and I'll sign up to use Epoch for Paypal. I'm just confused as to how you can do that with a company whose TOS says you can't?

Money talks. Epoch has like a 10% or more merchant fee and i'm sure paypal is taking a nice chunk of that. Especially considering the volume that epoch does across all it's clients, it's a big chunk of change.

scarlettcontent · 01-16-2015, 06:08 AM

great news

Arnox · 01-16-2015, 06:16 AM

I can only see this as being a positive thing for the time and being. Paypal has historically been anti-adult, so any step in this direction is good news.

Now just for cams to have this.

XMaster · 01-16-2015, 06:47 AM

that's a great news. Cant wait to see thousands of paypal U.S. transactions!

candyflip · 01-16-2015, 06:49 AM

That's awesome. You will be getting my money and business.

Struggle4Bucks · 01-16-2015, 06:59 AM

Did some people here sleep under a rock for the last year? As a EU paysite owner i can accept PayPal via Epoch for more then a year now and it's great!

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...t=epoch+paypal

Happy to see US now added to the game! Gonna be great!

fappingJack · 01-16-2015, 07:01 AM

such a good news. Thanks for the heads up

coolandrew · 01-16-2015, 08:43 AM

This is a great news but I'd like also to have money transfer from epoch to the webmaster by paypal.

Tom-LifeSelector · 01-16-2015, 10:44 AM

Thanks for letting me know! Epoch is one of the best !

The Porn Nerd · 01-16-2015, 10:53 AM

Can anyone post an example where the PayPal logo shows up? I am talking about Epoch's GEO script. I do not see the little PayPal logo anywhere.

Barry-xlovecam · 01-16-2015, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

How is this possible?

Paypal is very, very strict about adult online. So how is Epoch getting them to change their policy?

I am going to guess that Paypal feels Epoch will manage the payment transaction risk for them.

Rand · 01-16-2015, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Can anyone post an example where the PayPal logo shows up? I am talking about Epoch's GEO script. I do not see the little PayPal logo anywhere.

The beauty of the Logo GPS script is you get to decide where to use it. Anywhere on your site, on any page, etc...

Once placed, the PayPal logo will appear on your site automatically, assuming you've opted in to accept it.

There is more information about Logo GPS here.

Jman · 01-16-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rand

The beauty of the Logo GPS script is you get to decide where to use it. Anywhere on your site, on any page, etc...

Once placed, the PayPal logo will appear on your site automatically, assuming you've opted in to accept it.

There is more information about Logo GPS here.

Very happy for you guys Rand

sinclair · 01-16-2015, 02:32 PM

Kudo's to Epoch for taking the lead on this and putting in the work as I am sure it took lots of hand holding. Happy to see it roll out in the U.S.

Rand · 01-16-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jman

Very happy for you guys Rand

Thanks Jman! Long time no see.

And thanks to everyone else for the good words.

We are very happy to be able to bring this to a global level.

Robbie · 01-16-2015, 03:09 PM

Rand, if I were to sign up for Epoch...would I be required to pay the $500 Visa and $500 MasterCard fee even if I don't want to use Epoch for anything EXCEPT the PayPal option?

tammix · 01-16-2015, 03:33 PM

sextronix says they use epoch in their sites but signup pages show as bsbilling or something... too bad they don't do epoch anymore

PaperstreetWinston · 01-16-2015, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Rand, if I were to sign up for Epoch...would I be required to pay the $500 Visa and $500 MasterCard fee even if I don't want to use Epoch for anything EXCEPT the PayPal option?

follow up on this -thx

Rand · 01-16-2015, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Rand, if I were to sign up for Epoch...would I be required to pay the $500 Visa and $500 MasterCard fee even if I don't want to use Epoch for anything EXCEPT the PayPal option?

One of the terms by PayPal is that it be offered as part of a suite of payment options. It is not intended to be used as a stand-alone payment choice. Otherwise it could appear that this was an individual's PayPal account, which is disallowed.

PayPal, as with all of the alternative international payment types we offer, is for Epoch clients who accept Visa and Mastercard. None of the alternative payment options we offer is available à la carte.

The Porn Nerd · 01-16-2015, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand

The beauty of the Logo GPS script is you get to decide where to use it. Anywhere on your site, on any page, etc...

Once placed, the PayPal logo will appear on your site automatically, assuming you've opted in to accept it.

There is more information about Logo GPS here.

There it is! Right in the center. Wow looks great!

Robbie · 01-16-2015, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand

One of the terms by PayPal is that it be offered as part of a suite of payment options. It is not intended to be used as a stand-alone payment choice. Otherwise it could appear that this was an individual's PayPal account, which is disallowed.

PayPal, as with all of the alternative international payment types we offer, is for Epoch clients who accept Visa and Mastercard. None of the alternative payment options we offer is available à la carte.

So all of us with our own merchant accounts aren't gonna be able to use it then.
I know that I don't have any desire to pay out an extra $1,000 a year for something I don't need (the credit card processing part).

The Porn Nerd · 01-16-2015, 04:40 PM

I'm sure designers are busy as I type this preparing paysite Tours with "Pay with PayPal! We now accept PayPal!" all over them. Or should be.

OY · 01-16-2015, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand

We've operated a pilot program in the EU for the past year and we had such success that we were able to expand into other markets.

PayPal still does not allow individual accounts to accept payments in this merchant category code. But through our agreement with them we can offer this option as part of our suite of payment types.

We are very excited about the new possibilities this expansion presents.

Excellent news Rand & Co!!

Rand · 01-16-2015, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

There it is! Right in the center. Wow looks great!

Sweet! Thanks for the update!

TubeSubmitters · 01-16-2015, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand

PayPal, as with all of the alternative international payment types we offer, is for Epoch clients who accept Visa and Mastercard. None of the alternative payment options we offer is available à la carte.

Does one need to accept both Visa and Mastercard or is it possible to just accept Visa and still be able to use Paypal?

Robbie · 01-16-2015, 05:12 PM

I'm just kinda shocked that Epoch doesn't want my business. Especially since I just looked at Epoch's site and see they are charging 15% rates!!!! Holy shit!
That's 15% off of the Paypal sales I could be making straight into their pockets...I guess it just isn't worth it to them.

TubeSubmitters · 01-16-2015, 06:01 PM

Robbie didn't you comprehend Rands reply to you?
They are unable to provide paypal only.
"through our agreement with PAYPAL we can offer this option as PART of our suite of payment types. "

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TubeSubmitters Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,683	Robbie didn't you comprehend Rands reply to you? They are unable to provide paypal only. "through our agreement with PAYPAL we can offer this option as PART of our suite of payment types. " __________________ Buying sites with income, paying by paxum, hit me up