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Old 01-22-2015, 11:20 AM   #51
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when the idiots have a gun in the car and are not complying what do you expect?
Hands in the air = no threat. Very simple, all drama & Monday morning quarterbacking aside

Granted I'm glad it was a thug con killed instead of Oprah or Gwen Stephanie, but no threat is no threat.
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I was always told "if you have a gun in the car" put your hands out window and reach for the roof. Not that I make it a point to drive around with a gun on the seat of my car...
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I witnessed something similar a couple months ago.

at one of my surf spots, we were all hanging out after a surf when we heard a cry for help. looked over and saw a girl helping another local girl who had fell down unconscious on the beach boardwalk. a local hanging with us who is there often was drunk-ish and instantly decided the best thing to do is to hop in his truck and drive onto the boardwalk and scoop her up. so that's what he did, and almost ran over a couple people jogging on the path on his way to get her.

the beach sheriffs noticed this ASAP and 2 patrol trucks swarmed in and over the loudspeaker told him to stay put. He didn't, he closed his door and drove over the divider and right back to his parking spot and stayed in his truck

well, that was the very wrong thing to do, multiple cops showed up, there was a stand off before he all the sudden jumped out of his truck with his hands up.

the police pepper sprayed him, handcuffed him and took him away.
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people will just start killing cops. police are looking like the enemy in hoods moving targets
Well that's already happened.
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I was always told "if you have a gun in the car" put your hands out window and reach for the roof. Not that I make it a point to drive around with a gun on the seat of my car...
You have strange problems in US. It sounds pretty much the same as "If you have a camel in a condo, don't let it drink from a toilet."

Although I might have a gun in the car tomorrow (maybe going to hunting), but in the trunk, and I am not planning to put my hands out of the window if cops stop me. That would look so weird.
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I witnessed something similar a couple months ago.

at one of my surf spots, we were all hanging out after a surf when we heard a cry for help. looked over and saw a girl helping another local girl who had fell down unconscious on the beach boardwalk. a local hanging with us who is there often was drunk-ish and instantly decided the best thing to do is to hop in his truck and drive onto the boardwalk and scoop her up. so that's what he did, and almost ran over a couple people jogging on the path on his way to get her.

the beach sheriffs noticed this ASAP and 2 patrol trucks swarmed in and over the loudspeaker told him to stay put. He didn't, he closed his door and drove over the divider and right back to his parking spot and stayed in his truck

well, that was the very wrong thing to do, multiple cops showed up, there was a stand off before he all the sudden jumped out of his truck with his hands up.

the police pepper sprayed him, handcuffed him and took him away.
Had he been a convicted felon that they knew by name and had a gun in the car, he probably would have gotten more than pepper sprayed. Like in this situation.
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And then what? When do you learn to respect other human lives instead of take them?

Do you really think the government will let criminals overtake things? not a chance.

You need to re-wire your brain for respect.
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And then what? When do you learn to respect other human lives instead of take them?

Do you really think the government will let criminals overtake things? not a chance.

You need to re-wire your brain for respect.
What if the criminals have already joined to police and have overtaken? You know, this is not just a joke. For example in Mexico 80 % of polices do cooperate with mafia, do kidnaps and so on. The uniform doesn't make anyone good.

And the thing about taking lives would sound better if this thread wouldn't be about polices shooting people (to dead).
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Had he been a convicted felon that they knew by name and had a gun in the car, he probably would have gotten more than pepper sprayed. Like in this situation.
yeah, he didn't have a gun or a history of shooting at cops, but from hearsay I gathered he had had several run ins with the local sheriff(s).

and several of the cops had their weapons out at one point or another during the ordeal, all while he was yelling at them from inside his truck. they sure looked concerned about it.

how the OP guy jumped out of his car reminded me of this event, the guy here flew out of his car, I was pretty surprised. and I certainly thought he would have been tazed, we all did. but no. all that part took maybe 5 minutes but they left him handcuffed and pepper sprayed laying on the concrete for quite a while.
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how many police have you shot so far?
None of course. He's too busy playing dungeons and dragons, watching star trek and playing gangsta on gfy.
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Would you say that if a friend or family member had their hands up but didn't follow directions completely? You don't deserve to die for not doing what a cop says, even if you're being hard headed. How is a body full of bullets the proper response for standing there with your hands up? Cops don't have the right to kill you because they feel slightly threatened.

They're our servants, not our executioners.
And this is the problem right here. How the fuck do people not understand this?

At that exact moment, a police officer had his gun drawn and pointed at this person. He has two options - do exactly as told OR get shot. There is no discussion about this. There is no leeway about this. There is no guess work involved. Do as you are told or get shot; It's just that fucking simple.

He wasn't "standing there with his hands up". He was armed, failing to follow directions, got out of the car, and was approaching the officer - after the police officer told him he was going to get shot. It's not like he didn't have a dozen warnings from the officer.

This is very simple. When a police officer has their firearm in their hand is threatening to shoot you.... You do as you are told. You do exactly as you are told. If not, you get shot. It's that simple.
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At that exact moment, a police officer had his gun drawn and pointed at this person. He has two options - do exactly as told OR get shot. There is no discussion about this. There is no leeway about this. There is no guess work involved. Do as you are told or get shot; It's just that fucking simple.
Why there is no discussion about that? You know, that is not the only way to deal with things. For example the regular British polices had for long time just a batton. Well, of course US is a much more fucked up country than UK, but still..

Even not all US polices had guns back in the days, just batton, and now it is some really black and white rule that do as told or get shot. Are US polices today the sort of simpletons that they can't assess the situation? How about do as told or get battoned? Or called with names? Or else they tell your mom? There are alternatives as you can see.
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And this is the problem right here. How the fuck do people not understand this?

At that exact moment, a police officer had his gun drawn and pointed at this person. He has two options - do exactly as told OR get shot. There is no discussion about this. There is no leeway about this. There is no guess work involved. Do as you are told or get shot; It's just that fucking simple.

He wasn't "standing there with his hands up". He was armed, failing to follow directions, got out of the car, and was approaching the officer - after the police officer told him he was going to get shot. It's not like he didn't have a dozen warnings from the officer.

This is very simple. When a police officer has their firearm in their hand is threatening to shoot you.... You do as you are told. You do exactly as you are told. If not, you get shot. It's that simple.
Deadly force is supposed to be used when met with deadly force. You can take into account the guy's previous criminal history, the fact there was a gun in the car -- but at that moment the officer's life was not in danger. This isn't Minority Report where police can predetermine crime and dispense execution as they see fit.
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Hands in the air = no threat. Very simple, all drama & Monday morning quarterbacking aside

Granted I'm glad it was a thug con killed instead of Oprah or Gwen Stephanie, but no threat is no threat.









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Deadly force is supposed to be used when met with deadly force. You can take into account the guy's previous criminal history, the fact there was a gun in the car -- but at that moment the officer's life was not in danger. This isn't Minority Report where police can predetermine crime and dispense execution as they see fit.
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god you are a stupid muther fuker! im talking about when given the chance.
right.

so you haven't gotten the chance yet? or you got the chance and missed because your crew was not rolling so deep? or the police shot you first?



if you're going to give out advices on how to shoot cops, you should be prepared for some questions.
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Deadly force is supposed to be used when met with deadly force. You can take into account the guy's previous criminal history, the fact there was a gun in the car -- but at that moment the officer's life was not in danger. This isn't Minority Report where police can predetermine crime and dispense execution as they see fit.

would you bet your life that those felons would have "done nothing" ,,,,,, i think not....
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Why there is no discussion about that? You know, that is not the only way to deal with things. For example the regular British polices had for long time just a batton. Well, of course US is a much more fucked up country than UK, but still..

Even not all US polices had guns back in the days, just batton, and now it is some really black and white rule that do as told or get shot. Are US polices today the sort of simpletons that they can't assess the situation? How about do as told or get battoned? Or called with names? Or else they tell your mom? There are alternatives as you can see.
if a cop has his gun drawn at you and you decide to do anything but what he says then you deserve to get shot.
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if you're going to give out advices on how to shoot cops, you should be prepared for some questions.

He's a paper gangsta.
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Granted I'm glad it was a thug con killed instead of Oprah or Gwen Stephanie, but no threat is no threat.
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if a cop has his gun drawn at you and you decide to do anything but what he says then you deserve to get shot.
Okay. Should you make this as a new amendment or something? This will fit well with the other Sharia rules. Or were you guys Christians?

What if the cop just says I didn't do as he said? Or did the Muhammed say "What the officer says is the law; Hammurabi by Muhammed 1233:33, second chapter."
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You know, that is not the only way to deal with things.
You are right. There are two ways to handle the situation when a police officer is pointing their firearm at you. You can either do as they say or risk getting shot.

It's not open to discussion. At all. Ever. Period.
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You are right. There are two ways to handle the situation when a police officer is pointing their firearm at you. You can either do as they say or risk getting shot.

It's not open to discussion. At all. Ever. Period.
We are discussing about it already; you are just poor at discussion. And I am not even discussing with my mother language.

This discussion is also about what the officer does; you know, there is the officer and the other guy, unless the officer is pointing himself.
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Deadly force is supposed to be used when met with deadly force. You can take into account the guy's previous criminal history, the fact there was a gun in the car -- but at that moment the officer's life was not in danger. This isn't Minority Report where police can predetermine crime and dispense execution as they see fit.
You are completely wrong. Deadly force is not supposed to be used when met with deadly force. Instead, deadly force is used when "the person or persons in question are believed to be an immediate danger to people around them".

Was the officer's life in danger? Of course it was. There was an armed man in a car refusing to relinquish his weapon and refusing to obey ANY order of the officer after multiple warnings.
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Or did the Muhammed say "What the officer says is the law; Hammurabi by Muhammed 1233:33, second chapter."


Are you one of those jihadi dudes?
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You are completely wrong. Deadly force is not supposed to be used when met with deadly force. Instead, deadly force is used when "the person or persons in question are believed to be an immediate danger to people around them".

Was the officer's life in danger? Of course it was. There was an armed man in a car refusing to relinquish his weapon and refusing to obey ANY order of the officer after multiple warnings.
You are right, the people around the officer were in immediate danger; one died.

Also about the options; in other countries police will just deal with the situation. Usually without killing anyone. It is this US bullshit to solve things by killing. It is because of the culture where human life is not valued. Unless the value part means overpriced healthcare.
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Are you one of those jihadi dudes?
I thought that you are. You sound like one.
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You are right, the people around the officer were in danger; one died.

Also about the options; in other countries police will just deal with the situation. Usually without killing anyone. It is this US bullshit to solve things by killing. It is because of the culture where human life is not valued.


I hope two black guys skullfuck you in a dark alley and two cops see this but the black guys skullfucking you have "their hands in the air" and cops just walk awy
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I thought that you are. You sound like one.
If you are Muslim that is cool by me , I have muslim friends but it seems you are one of those extrmist trouble making types
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aka 123 where are you from btw? does not seem you live in the US.... maybe the police by you are different that the ones here
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We are discussing about it already; you are just poor at discussion. And I am not even discussing with my mother language.

This discussion is also about what the officer does; you know, there is the officer and the other guy, unless the officer is pointing himself.
Your English isn't nearly as good as you think it is.
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Your English isn't nearly as good as you think it is.
Rochard i think I am just getting older but many years ago when i was young was I a idiot like these new inbreds on here?
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I hope two black guys skullfuck you in a dark alley and two cops see this but the black guys skullfucking you have "their hands in the air" and cops just walk awy
Thank you for this statement, it is very Christian or something. Love to you too.

By the way, I haven't said that police shouldn't do its job, quite opposite. I just don't think that it's polices job to shoot people.
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Your English isn't nearly as good as you think it is.
Then I will blend in nicely.
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Thank you for this statement, it is very Christian or something. Love to you too.

By the way, I haven't said that police shouldn't do its job, quite opposite. I just don't think that it's polices job to shoot people.

I am Jewish btw


if there life is in danger what do you expect them to do??????????????
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aka 123 where are you from btw? does not seem you live in the US.... maybe the police by you are different that the ones here
No shit Sherlock.

There are coordinates below my nickname. Our police is surely different.
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if there life is in danger what do you expect them to do??????????????
Jews have some Hammurabi shit?

I expect police to deal with the situation. Use your imagination. They have legs to stand back, kick, run, or what ever. Hands to hit, use batton, use taser, get a grip, use pepper spray, and so on.

For example in that situation the police could have taken a step back and wait for what happens/ to assess the situation well. In that situation the officers life was in danger (little danger) and he is hired to take risks/ put his life in danger. He is in a wrong job if he can't take that. The guy said he is coming out of the vehicle. It was not surprise, the officer could just have let him come out of the vehicle.

Danger has scales too, it is not safe vs. immediate danger for life.
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No shit Sherlock.

There are coordinates below my nickname. Our police is surely different.

that explains your sheer stupidity
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people will just start killing cops. police are looking like the enemy in hoods moving targets
Let us know how this works out for your people, homie.
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