News 1 of Mark Wahlberg's victims says he shouldn't be pardoned

[brassmonkey]

BOSTON (AP) ? A victim of one of Mark Wahlberg's racially motivated attacks as a teenage delinquent in segregated Boston in the 1980s insists he shouldn't be granted a pardon for his crimes.

Kristyn Atwood was among a group of mostly black fourth-grade students on a field trip to the beach in 1986 when Wahlberg and his white friends began hurling rocks and shouting racial epithets as they chased them down the street.

"I don't think he should get a pardon," Atwood, now 38 and living in Decatur, Georgia, said in an interview with The Associated Press.

"I don't really care who he is. It doesn't make him any exception. If you're a racist, you're always going to be a racist. And for him to want to erase it I just think it's wrong," she said.

Mary Belmonte, the white teacher who brought the students to the neighborhood beach that day, sees things differently. "I believe in forgiveness," she said. "He was just a young kid ? a punk ? in the mean streets of Boston. He didn't do it specifically because he was a bad kid. He was just a follower doing what the other kids were doing."

The 43-year-old former rapper, Calvin Klein model and "Boogie Nights" actor wants official forgiveness for a separate, more severe attack in 1988, in which he assaulted two Vietnamese men while trying to steal beer. That attack sent one of the men to the hospital and landed Wahlberg in prison.

1 of Mark Wahlberg's victims says he shouldn't be pardoned - Yahoo News

[Juicy D. Links]

[dyna mo]

reparations!

[PR_Glen]

oh man he said some racist shit and had violent friends while being 15 and living in south boston???

the shock and horror...

[bronco67]

people can change a lot over decades. Just because he did that shit around other dumb ass Boston kids doesn't mean he had hate in his heart. It's very possible he was being a dumb kid following the pack.

[mineistaken]

A scandal! Call Scum Sharpton!

[Captain Kawaii]

He's trying to expand his burger chain. He needs beer licenses etc and cannot get them without a pardon. End of story. It appears he was a leader in this stuff and not just a follower.

[BlackCrayon]

Would a regular person get a pardon? he shouldn't be treated any better or worse for being famous. I had no idea boston was segregated in the 80s...wow.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Would a regular person get a pardon? he shouldn't be treated any better or worse for being famous. I had no idea boston was segregated in the 80s...wow.

bean town was pretty bad he will try to pay his way out. he went to prison for beating up some asian guys?? didnt know that

[L-Pink]

There should be no pardon for this type of behavior.

[brassmonkey]

they picked little girls instead of going in the hood! they picked the sure thing of making it home that nite

[liveevilm]

I think he should get a pardon but only if he legally changes his name to "marky mark". Wear your shame like a badge sir

[Jman]

He was a kid, made mistakes... Who didn't

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Jman

He was a kid, made mistakes... Who didn't

if he did that to your kid would you still say a pardon? if he chased your ass down because of that sweater busted you in the head with a dirt bomb would you be ok?

[baddog]

Fucking whiners

[TobySwan]

LOL...who even cares what some boston guy did when he was 15..i don't even care what i did when i was 15.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

There should be no pardon for this type of behavior.

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[MaDalton]

not my circus, not my monkeys

(old polish proverb)

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

He's trying to expand his burger chain. He needs beer licenses etc and cannot get them without a pardon. End of story. It appears he was a leader in this stuff and not just a follower.

From what I have heard he was always following his older brother and his friends, That's what My ex girl said. "He was a little annoying kid that wouldn't leave them alone". Doesn't sound like he was the leader of any pack.

[The Porn Nerd]

He's a fucking tool, a shitty actor, probably a closeted gay, has horrible taste in everything and is, above all else, the least talented member of his dysfunctional idiot family.

Fuck him.

[PAR]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Would a regular person get a pardon? he shouldn't be treated any better or worse for being famous. I had no idea boston was segregated in the 80s...wow.

Simple answer...
Yes a regular person would not still have charges from when they were 15 years old hanging over their head as an adult...

[Joshua G]

all marky mark needs to do is cut a check for $20,000 to the Reverend Al fund. all will be forgiven.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

all marky mark needs to do is cut a check for $20,000 to the Reverend Al fund. all will be forgiven.

you are playing stupid right???

[Bama]

Another example of when "equal rights" is expected to be "special rights".

Wahlberg did something wrong, was sent to prison, did his time and released. He wiised up (whether his prejudice way of thinking changed or not) and hasn't re-offended.

So by all publicly known accounts, he has reformed but you are unwilling to accept that he's done his time, reformed and made a better person out of himself but you're one of the first to run toward the boards on any issues where this type of behavior is targeted toward a black person.

Good for the goose, good for the gander. Equal rights doesn't mean special rights.

[The Porn Nerd]

Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left.

I'm not an ambiturner either. I've had this problem since I was a baby. I can't turn left.

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by Jman

He was a kid, made mistakes... Who didn't

Lots of people didn't.

Egging someones ones house (everyone did) is quite different than what he DID and was CAUGHT and PROSECUTED and CONVICTED.

SO NO - he should NOT have any special treatment just because of his fame and money.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if he did that to your kid would you still say a pardon? if he chased your ass down because of that sweater busted you in the head with a dirt bomb would you be ok?

Dude I talk to guys that we hated each others as kids in school. That's the meaning of GROWING up. One day you might understand.

Our society is raising pussies, over parenting and dramatizing to the max, fucking sad and glad I do not have a kid growing in this fucked up world.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Lots of people didn't.

Egging someones ones house (everyone did) is quite different than what he DID and was CAUGHT and PROSECUTED and CONVICTED.

SO NO - he should NOT have any special treatment just because of his fame and money.

Where so I say he should have special treatment, he's asking a pardon, just like ANYONE can after a while.

You guys sure know how to put words in peoples mouth just for the sake of trolling

[Jman]

Originally Posted by baddog

Fucking whiners

Whiny bitches

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by Jman

Where so I say he should have special treatment, he's asking a pardon, just like ANYONE can after a while.

You guys sure know how to put words in peoples mouth just for the sake of trolling

Can you really do that in America? Just ask for a pardon? wow! In most countries a pardon is only granted if found not guilty after the time served or for being a super-duper credit to the country.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Jman

Dude I talk to guys that we hated each others as kids in school. That's the meaning of GROWING up. One day you might understand.

Our society is raising pussies, over parenting and dramatizing to the max, fucking sad and glad I do not have a kid growing in this fucked up world.

what does that have to do with a high schooler chasing 4th graders spitting racial slurs and rocks?? i grew up in a city of like 2 million when i was 15 im thinking way less 4u

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if he did that to your kid would you still say a pardon? if he chased your ass down because of that sweater busted you in the head with a dirt bomb would you be ok?

after 30 years??? i should fuckin hope so or you have truly lead a worthless life...

[czarina]

I'd still hit that ;P

[RobertL]

Yes, of course, in America, you can. If you have been convicted of a crime, and served time or whatever penalty was imposed, after a number of years of good behavior you can request your crime be pardoned, or stricken from your record, or whatever. Felons can't vote in America, but if you have reformed yourself you can request to have that status removed.

I am sure someone who cared enough to do the research would be able to show you that many non famous people have been pardoned after years of good behavior, which Marky Mark has definitely exhibited since becoming an adult.

Originally Posted by rogueteens

Can you really do that in America? Just ask for a pardon? wow! In most countries a pardon is only granted if found not guilty after the time served or for being a super-duper credit to the country.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by czarina

I'd still hit that ;P

banned for racial slurs?? would be perfect!

[RobertL]

I have befriended a few people who used to treat me terrible, bully me, etc., when I was 13-15. We're now Facebook friends, have talked about how shitty kids can be in high school, and moved on...I think that's what people do, no?

What's that saying about holding in hate being like swallowing poison to kill your enemies?

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if he did that to your kid would you still say a pardon? if he chased your ass down because of that sweater busted you in the head with a dirt bomb would you be ok?

[nico-t]

hey, a thread about racial crap by brassmonkey. I'm surprised!

[Thor]

So he threw a rock at some kids 29 years ago, and you come whining about it now

[John_Galbani]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

BOSTON (AP) ? A victim of one of Mark Wahlberg's racially motivated attacks as a teenage delinquent in segregated Boston in the 1980s insists he shouldn't be granted a pardon for his crimes.

Kristyn Atwood was among a group of mostly black fourth-grade students on a field trip to the beach in 1986 when Wahlberg and his white friends began hurling rocks and shouting racial epithets as they chased them down the street.

"I don't think he should get a pardon," Atwood, now 38 and living in Decatur, Georgia, said in an interview with The Associated Press.

"I don't really care who he is. It doesn't make him any exception. If you're a racist, you're always going to be a racist. And for him to want to erase it I just think it's wrong," she said.

Mary Belmonte, the white teacher who brought the students to the neighborhood beach that day, sees things differently. "I believe in forgiveness," she said. "He was just a young kid ? a punk ? in the mean streets of Boston. He didn't do it specifically because he was a bad kid. He was just a follower doing what the other kids were doing."

The 43-year-old former rapper, Calvin Klein model and "Boogie Nights" actor wants official forgiveness for a separate, more severe attack in 1988, in which he assaulted two Vietnamese men while trying to steal beer. That attack sent one of the men to the hospital and landed Wahlberg in prison.

1 of Mark Wahlberg's victims says he shouldn't be pardoned - Yahoo News

Why you like cry racism so much all the time? People feel about you because of reason. You commit crime, live free with government help, and cry for more help. I know many immigrant from africa work really hard and provide for family, but second and more generation always lazy and do lots of crime.
Marky Mark is good person with great body and talent. Very popular brand in Europe too.

[TrashyGirl]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

He's trying to expand his burger chain. He needs beer licenses etc and cannot get them without a pardon.

Most important point being made is ^^^^^^

Marky Mark is asking for a pardon now (at age 43) because it's hurting his flipping burger empire. His motivation is $ - not in being pardoned because he wants his record clean for his legacy or Hollywood reputation.

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by Bama

Another example of when "equal rights" is expected to be "special rights".

Wahlberg did something wrong, was sent to prison, did his time and released. He wiised up (whether his prejudice way of thinking changed or not) and hasn't re-offended.

So by all publicly known accounts, he has reformed but you are unwilling to accept that he's done his time, reformed and made a better person out of himself but you're one of the first to run toward the boards on any issues where this type of behavior is targeted toward a black person.

Good for the goose, good for the gander. Equal rights doesn't mean special rights.

They have something just for that: Its called an "expungement."


It happened, you changed your life, all is forgiven and its "Kinda off your record.



But a "Pardon" as if the crimes never happened. Thats something I absolutely do not agree with. Racially motivated crimes are not forgivable to me. Take the expungement and shut the fuck up!!


I have a friend that royally fucked up at 20 years old. Major steroid drug dealer and did a laundry list of other bad shit, he went to jail and everything. Nothing violent which was probably his saving grace.


This kid happened to be a Genius in every sense of the word. After he got out of jail He went back to school got his MBA/JD(Master in Business+Law Degree) in 2 years from USC and is now a High powered LA attorney making serious money.

Keep in mind MBA Program at USC is 2 years(If you can get in) and a JD (Juris Doctorate) degree is a 3 year program. To do both at the same time and be at the top of your class in both programs is unheard of.


Now the super tricky part that astonishes me is; how can he be admitted to the California Bar with such a series of bad felonies? A normal person would never a "Moral Turpitude" background check.



Answer: This guy was donating his time with the the local Congressmen and Senators. Working on their campaigns, etc while he was going to school. Got his Republican Favor card and had the governor of California at the time (Pete Wilson) cash it in for a "Pardon."


Been friends with this guys since freshman year in high school. In high school he was building Sleeper Race Cars and racing for Pink slips all throughout High school. The guys was seriously a super genius jewish kid. Always accomplished anything and everything he set out to do. Before he started going back to school he told me his plan and I was: "Good Luck with that".


So its posible to get a Pardon you just need to not make it public and do it in backroom deals.



Just Dave

[dyna mo]

As a society, we have lost our ability to forgive.

[iamBoogieman]

Pay him and youll be forgiven.

[brassmonkey]

god sum of you are just assholes

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by Squirtit

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[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

[Jel]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

As a society, we have lost our ability to forgive.

indeed. It's all about making sure the punishment goes on forever, regardless of the fact that any simpleton can grasp: that people can and do change every single day, especially from your mid to late teens > grown adult with the life experience that goes with it. Some of the shit I did as a 16 - 20 year old I've no idea what must have been going through my mind to even think that was ok, but I (like millions and millions of others, so not saying I'm anything special here, far from it) changed for the far better.

Though I still get sucked into threads like this, so I haven't quite shaken off all my dumbfuckness.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by TrashyGirl

Most important point being made is ^^^^^^

Marky Mark is asking for a pardon now (at age 43) because it's hurting his flipping burger empire. His motivation is $ - not in being pardoned because he wants his record clean for his legacy or Hollywood reputation.

and? this is the main reason not to pardon him? because he wants to make money, 29 years later?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Jel

indeed. It's all about making sure the punishment goes on forever, regardless of the fact that any simpleton can grasp: that people can and do change every single day, especially from your mid to late teens > grown adult with the life experience that goes with it. Some of the shit I did as a 16 - 20 year old I've no idea what must have been going through my mind to even think that was ok, but I (like millions and millions of others, so not saying I'm anything special here, far from it) changed for the far better.

Though I still get sucked into threads like this, so I haven't quite shaken off all my dumbfuckness.

total bullshit fiddy toolz