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Old 01-28-2015, 05:49 PM   #1
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Porn Sales Recession

Yep..definitely in a recession in terms of porn sales.. Since October/November

Anyone else feeling it? Im definitely feeling it until now. Fuck.. What are you guys doing to not lose hope?

I have to play poker on the side to make up for the losses (good thing im banking poker live cash games)
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Anyone else feeling it? Im definitely feeling it until now. Fuck.. What are you guys doing to not lose hope?
Switch to cams and mainstream.
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Honestly, we had a very slow time nov/dev, but January has exploded in growth for us. Our sales have increased 10x. Maybe its time to try nutra?
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You're not being more specific. What are your sites? Are all of them in trouble? What are your SE ranks, or do you follow them for organic? Notice anything in your Analytics? Did you pull a boo-boo with some text - update with a shit word-count? Break SE protocols? Are the sites on auto-pilot? How many hours a day do you put towards your sites? How many sites in your portfolio?

Are you drinking during poker?

I have a friend across the pond who is complaining about the exact same thing. I have a friend in Canada that exploded at the top of the year (both have about 10+ sites each respectively) I also have a friend in the Phillipines that is kicking ass, yet another in New York who's quit the biz as his New Year's resolution and sold 22 sites.

Without more specifics, I doubt you'll get any helpful responses, other than the usual, "Porn in Dead' bullshit from all the naysayers...

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Yep..definitely in a recession in terms of porn sales.. Since October/November

Anyone else feeling it? Im definitely feeling it until now. Fuck.. What are you guys doing to not lose hope?

I have to play poker on the side to make up for the losses (good thing im banking poker live cash games)
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:12 PM   #9
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Bahahah. LOL. I almost spit out my beer when I read this!!

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You're not being more specific. What are your sites? Are all of them in trouble? What are your SE ranks, or do you follow them for organic? Notice anything in your Analytics? Did you pull a boo-boo with some text - update with a shit word-count? Break SE protocols? Are the sites on auto-pilot? How many hours a day do you put towards your sites? How many sites in your portfolio?

Are you drinking during poker?

I have a friend across the pond who is complaining about the exact same thing. I have a friend in Canada that exploded at the top of the year (both have about 10+ sites each respectively) I also have a friend in the Phillipines that is kicking ass, yet another in New York who's quit the biz as his New Year's resolution and sold 22 sites.

Without more specifics, I doubt you'll get any helpful responses, other than the usual, "Porn in Dead' bullshit from all the naysayers...

Just sayin...
You're wasting your time.

Based on his posting history, I'd be surprised if this guy has ever made more than 10 sales in a month.
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Translation: we now have FOUR members! woooooooohhhooooooooooo!
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That was funny as shit man!
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Translation: we now have FOUR members! woooooooohhhooooooooooo!
OK, seriously Epitome, you just gave me the fucking laughs. After I read your response, I checked. This is a classic:

"...WOW, it said it sent me 11 clicks, but i don't see any hits coming from facebook on my tracker. wtf???"

I'm still busting up with my fucking beer & martini chaser. Hah!

Thanks for making me check timelines again bro. It's been a while. (...and maybe I shouldn't have posted to begin with?)

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In that case i hope their chargebacks didn't also double....
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LOL

But if the chargebacks doubled, he'd be in the red. LOL As in 'Quit Red'. As in "I'm fucked in the Red I quit RED..." LOLOLO

Hey Struggle, shit, thanks for reminding me. Forgot all about S4B. Fucking Epoch. I always forget Epoch sites... I spaced out you're with them. Putting you on my roster so I can push your ass with the new sites. (Wait. What? Not, "Push your ass" as in "Push your ass" but "Push" "your" ass" in like "Push "Your ass") Not like that. I mean PUSH YOUR ASS man. I'd forgotten all about you. Glad you posted. You're hooked up and we'll start sending you the traffic.

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But if the chargebacks doubled, he'd be in the red. LOL As in 'Quit Red'. As in "I'm fucked in the Red I quit RED..." LOLOLO

Hey Struggle, shit, thanks for reminding me. Forgot all about S4B. Fucking Epoch. I spaced out you're with them. Putting you on my roster so I can push your ass with the new sites. (Wait. What? Not, "Push your ass" as in "Push your ass" but "Push" "your" ass" in like "Push "Your ass") Not like that. I mean PUSH YOUR ASS man. I'd forgotten all about you. Glad you posted. You're hooked up and we'll start sending you the traffic.


Push my ass anyway you like man... wait... what? Not like "push my ass" "anyway you like" but more like "push"my "ass" "anyway" "you like"
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Hit up Paul Markham, he will give you some magazine and VHS selling tips

You're going to have good months and bad months OP, just put some work into making lots of new websites during this time and it will pay off down the road
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You're going to have good months and bad months OP, just put some work into making lots of new websites during this time and it will pay off down the road
Wait. Is that the VHS like Virtual Hosting Servers? Is that like this Cloud thingy everyone is talking about? I need to read up on this. Right? I love that stuff. It's real secure I hear. Like, well no one can get in. Not even a gerbil & ducktape or those warez hacker guys ruining everything for all of us. Well that VHS has got me. Where do I sign up. Any good leads? I need a good host after my last one walked out on me that one morning yelling and screaming to police that I'm some girl. Hah. Right!! Is Paul here so I can ask about these VHS services?

Jus askin..
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The end of the year (month of December) followed by the post holiday bills of January is always a volatile time and results are mixed. Facebook released there last quarter results for the year and currency revaluations reduced profits ''CFO Dave Wehner notes forex is expected to have a 5% impact on 2015 revenue growth. International markets produced 52% of Q4 revenue, with Europe making up 27%.''

So, as Facebook goes so goes the Internet as a whole? We are global and forex rates matter -- that is the only recessionary pressure I see.

Overall, the cam industry, and XloveCam with it, have had a good end year quarter, like everyone's nemesis -- Facebook ...
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Be honest when you are selling... not just porn, anything, If u are honest enough and use the most honest Call To Action description, I bet you will have better conversion. Many people fail to sell because of two things. 1) Lack of market research, mostly Keyword research 2) Lack of honestly when you build a site or the link to sell.

If u are true to yourself, I bet you will understand what I mean above. It will help you get better conversion and sales.
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The end of the year (month of December) followed by the post holiday bills of January is always a volatile time and results are mixed. Facebook released there last quarter results for the year and currency revaluations reduced profits ''CFO Dave Wehner notes forex is expected to have a 5% impact on 2015 revenue growth. International markets produced 52% of Q4 revenue, with Europe making up 27%.''

So, as Facebook goes so goes the Internet as a whole? We are global and forex rates matter -- that is the only recessionary pressure I see.

Overall, the cam industry, and XloveCam with it, have had a good end year quarter, like everyone's nemesis -- Facebook ...
January is always a killer, when people see their Christmas credit card bills come in. I thought I had an exhorbitant amount of CBs for January (9) but then did some research. Most of them came from 3 Members who charged back multiple months (I hate that!).

But when I checked stats for Jan. 2014, 2013 and 2012 I saw similar numbers (adjusted for # of sites, etc). I guess I blocked out how bad January can be. LOL
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Personally doing well but I got a million things going adult/mainstream so more of many small/medium income streams over 1 or 2 large streams so if one thing has a bad month here and there it doesn't fuck me over.
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how are things? aint back on track yet when it comes to your sales?
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Well cams are quite stable in fact, since years, for what I see on our sales stats.
However, growing it is hard too. More than a recession, for cams at least, I would talk of difficult growth.
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Sales from this month looks like 2011!

3x times more that any month of 2014.
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the whole thread is lame, there is no info..saying my sales exploded, or they are doing great means nothing. someone who says their sales are sucking may mean 10 sales a day is the end of the world for them while another who says his are exploding may only be getting 5 a day because he is used to nothing. I have been running my site for 18 yrs comes may, I have seen lots of recessions, sales go up, they go down, but anyone trying to use the last 6 yrs as a comparison to how they are doing are using real crappy numbers...

sales are shit compared to 2005,2006, 2007 and they will continue to be until Russia stops trying to push everyone into war and works on their economy, the middle east calms down, more people get decent paying jobs and have more disposable income and so on.
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the whole thread is lame, there is no info..saying my sales exploded, or they are doing great means nothing. someone who says their sales are sucking may mean 10 sales a day is the end of the world for them while another who says his are exploding may only be getting 5 a day because he is used to nothing.
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Great, so no hope at all cause none of that shit is likely to happen any time soon. Thanks. :D
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ratios dropped overall in Nov theory is that google started to give tube sites with loads of free content more love. Just a theory but if you google a topic and get 9 good free tube options you end up not needing to buy. But I'm pretty sure there is a lot of money still to be made in porn
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Uh, no. Oil prices have nothing to do with anything in the Biz. Look back the last 15 years. What you need to study is the history of economics Sir Snot. Namely: The ups & downs of alcohol & sex. Both go hand-in-hand. They both sell even in the hardest of times. Why do you think that Mr. Pootin lowered the price of Vodka a couple of months ago. Wartime is just like the states Republican times. Sex & Alcohol. It's been that way since I can remember...

I totally disagree with you Mr. Booger.
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Yep..definitely in a recession in terms of porn sales.. Since October/November

Anyone else feeling it? Im definitely feeling it until now. Fuck.. What are you guys doing to not lose hope?

I have to play poker on the side to make up for the losses (good thing im banking poker live cash games)
According to an old topic of yours, January 2014 was an awesome month for you.

So ..... figure out what you were doing back then that you are no longer doing now.

Chances are, you tampered with the formula along the way.
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lol true

Although, you could ask your models if their interested in offering live cam from your site, paying them what they earn, you get the extra sales, an idea?
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According to an old topic of yours, January 2014 was an awesome month for you.

So ..... figure out what you were doing back then that you are no longer doing now.

Chances are, you tampered with the formula along the way.
This is actually the very first thing I do whenever I notice something "wrong". For example, I noticed my rebills were down the last two months even tho I re-designed the Members Areas. Go back to the old designs? Maybe...but first I looked and found I raised the download limits in Oct., meaning Members could get the content faster. I was getting complaints from members about the limits so I raised them. The complaints stopped - but so do some rebills. So I lowered the limits BACK to pre-Oct. levels. Complaints are coming in BUT rebills are up. So I will put up with the complaints. LOL

(But if rebills did not return, as they have, I would've swapped out the old MAs immediately.)

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lol true

Although, you could ask your models if their interested in offering live cam from your site, paying them what they earn, you get the extra sales, an idea?
Unfortunately (or, fortunately) I no longer work with models who participate with their own sites. Thank God. LOL But that is a great way to increase revenue so congrats!!
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THAT'S NOT TRUE!!

I WANT TO SEE PORN NERD DO A CAM SHOW!!! WAHH!! WAHHH!!!!

WE ALL DO MR. PEEBODY!! PLEASE, OH PLEASE!!


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Sorry man, my cams shows are invite-only. Haha!! :D
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Yep..definitely in a recession in terms of porn sales.. Since October/November

Anyone else feeling it? Im definitely feeling it until now. Fuck.. What are you guys doing to not lose hope?

I have to play poker on the side to make up for the losses (good thing im banking poker live cash games)
Advertising revenue is in a slump too
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