PornNerdCash Re-re-review

[newB]

So, it's been a year and a half since the thread where PornNerd announced the switch from Peabody to PornNerd and I called him out for over-writing affiliate IDs on Porn Nerd Network (formerly Mister Peabodys World) - this is the site you are directed to when you click the 'Updates' tab on the PornNerd sites.

At that time, he said he was waiting on billing approval and all affiliates would be credited blah, blah, blah.

Since then, he has been a model poster here: supportive and friendly, and often quite funny. So, I decided to give his program another chance and give it a fresh review. That is, until I found that nothing has changed! Well, that's not quite right - affiliate IDs are now being overwritten with '2439259' where before it was '2026216' when surfers hit that 'updates' page.

I debated about opening this can of worms again, but decided those here promoting the PornNerdCash program deserved to know.

Man, I wanted to like you and honestly wanted to let bygones be bygones and give your program a brand new and hopefully favorable review, but when you treat your affiliates unfairly, this is what you get.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by newB

So, it's been a year and a half since the thread where PornNerd announced the switch from Peabody to PornNerd and I called him out for over-writing affiliate IDs on Porn Nerd Network (formerly Mister Peabodys World) - this is the site you are directed to when you click the 'Updates' tab on the PornNerd sites.

At that time, he said he was waiting on billing approval and all affiliates would be credited blah, blah, blah.

Since then, he has been a model poster here: supportive and friendly, and often quite funny. So, I decided to give his program another chance and give it a fresh review. That is, until I found that nothing has changed! Well, that's not quite right - affiliate IDs are now being overwritten with '2439259' where before it was '2026216' when surfers hit that 'updates' page.

I debated about opening this can of worms again, but decided those here promoting the PornNerdCash program deserved to know.

Man, I wanted to like you and honestly wanted to let bygones be bygones and give your program a brand new and hopefully favorable review, but when you treat your affiliates unfairly, this is what you get.

This is bullshit. Somebody ban this Mr. Pee body.

[cmpmichael]

Hey newB, could you contact me?

michael [dot] chan [at] teamcmp [dot] com

couldn't find your contact info on your site. Thanks

[DVTimes]

Bump 4 you

[BAKO]

He only talks about people he does not know. Instead of helping his affiliates out. Idiot

[Mediamix]

Let's hear his side of the story...

[247mg]

ThePornNerd is a very nice guy as far as I know, so before we heard his side of story its hard to believe what you ever telling dude!

[ITraffic]

screenshots would help judge.

[newB]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

Let's hear his side of the story...

Originally Posted by 247mg

ThePornNerd is a very nice guy as far as I know, so before we heard his side of story its hard to believe what you ever telling dude!

Here's the thread from a year and a half ago of him announcing the change from Peabody to PornNerd. I call him out on page 2. You can read what he had to say about it at that time.

Originally Posted by ITraffic

screenshots would help judge.

I took screenshots in case someone made the proof or ban call, but wouldn't checking it out for yourself be more conclusive?

Try this: ErosExotica - Enter

Notice that the referring affiliate's ID is 2265877. Enter the site and hit the updates tab and you are taken to the Porn Nerd Network site. Notice that all of the links on that site are hard-coded with affiliate ID of 2439259. Click through to any of the sites and navigate to the CCBill join page. View the source code and notice

<input type=hidden name=ccbill_referer value='2439259'><input type=hidden name=referingURL value='http://www.pornnerdnetwork.com/'><input type=hidden name=referingDestURL value=''>

Unless I am missing something, and I don't think that I am, that means the referring affiliate 2265877 would have lost that sale to 2439259. Or, am I wrong?

[Markul]

[247mg]

To avoid this type of trouble NATS is the best solution with no such issues...

ThePornNerd > you got good network up and running get NATS and all your clients will be happy... NATS got setup in which CCBILL still pay your clients I believe!

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by 247mg

To avoid this type of trouble NATS is the best solution with no such issues...

ThePornNerd > you got good network up and running get NATS and all your clients will be happy... NATS got setup in which CCBILL still pay your clients I believe!

I am pretty sure he's working on a NATS switchover. I have seen him mention and ask questions about it.

[newB]

Originally Posted by 247mg

ThePornNerd is a very nice guy as far as I know, so before we heard his side of story its hard to believe what you ever telling dude!

Just wanted to direct you to my original post. He's been a great guy lately, that's why I wanted to forgive and forget about the past and give the program an updated review.

It was like a slap in the face to see the same thing was still going on.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

I am pretty sure he's working on a NATS switchover. I have seen him mention and ask questions about it.

Go eat another bag of Doritos and get your bacon eating ass back on the TELLE-PHONO, fat body

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by 247mg

To avoid this type of trouble NATS is the best solution with no such issues...

ThePornNerd > you got good network up and running get NATS and all your clients will be happy... NATS got setup in which CCBILL still pay your clients I believe!

NATS 4.1 | Wouj Webmaster Site

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by 247mg

To avoid this type of trouble NATS is the best solution with no such issues...

ThePornNerd > you got good network up and running get NATS and all your clients will be happy... NATS got setup in which CCBILL still pay your clients I believe!

wtf does nats have to do with this? As if replacing aff-id's is some sort of a tech error that happens at ccbill/epoch/whatever type of networks and nats is the answer to resolve the problem....

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

NATS 4.1 | Wouj Webmaster Site

[The Porn Nerd]

First I should probably read the entire thread but I am posting this the instant I saw this. FIRST let me say Thank You NewB for pointing this out to me. Seriously, for real.

Here's is EXACTLY what has happened. This weekend, beginning Friday night, I was replacing every table of thumbnails on every one of my sites (updating them). As I did so for Porn Nerd Network - which is also a paysite and can be joined independantly - I refreshed the template. This was very late Friday night-early Sat morning. Apparently when I refreshed that template the OLD template with affiliate codes was updated. I did not even notice until this thread because I am still updating sites.

Please go to Porn Nerd Network now and see it has been deleted/reverted to how it has been for YEARS now. I sincerely apologize for any confusion and if ANY affiliates feel they were not properly compensated for their traffic contact me IMMEDIATELY and we will set things straight.

For the record: that file should NOT have been there, it was deleted years ago (or so I thought). But when we switched to new servers a few months back aparently it was copied over. Again, this was a mistake and it was only there for two days max.

Again I want to thank NewB. I saw your thread about re-reviewing Programs and thought, 'Good, now he will see how everything is as it should be." LOL So again I thank him.

Now I will go and read all this.

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Mistakes happen. Who can be mad at a guy for owning his fuck up. Good for you. I am sure this will fix the issue.

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Go eat another bag of Doritos and get your bacon eating ass back on the TELLE-PHONO, fat body

I realize I hurt your feelings Harmon, and you may be feeling rejected because you were just trying to be a normal boy and I still said you're an idiot.

Chin up you little bully, wipe your tears, straighten your crown, and stop being an attention whore and posting shit that doesn't belong in someone elses business thread. Especially the same tired shit you have already posted a million times.

I can see why you just make drama, considering you don't even have an adult business, what the fuck else do you have to do with your day. Playing with the big boys sucks when you're just a little tadpole doesn't it?

[newB]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

First I should probably read the entire thread but I am posting this the instant I saw this. FIRST let me say Thank You NewB for pointing this out to me. Seriously, for real.

Here's is EXACTLY what has happened. This weekend, beginning Friday night, I was replacing every table of thumbnails on every one of my sites (updating them). As I did so for Porn Nerd Network - which is also a paysite and can be joined independantly - I refreshed the template. This was very late Friday night-early Sat morning. Apparently when I refreshed that template the OLD template with affiliate codes was updated. I did not even notice until this thread because I am still updating sites.

Please go to Porn Nerd Network now and see it has been deleted/reverted to how it has been for YEARS now. I sincerely apologize for any confusion and if ANY affiliates feel they were not properly compensated for their traffic contact me IMMEDIATELY and we will set things straight.

For the record: that file should NOT have been there, it was deleted years ago (or so I thought). But when we switched to new servers a few months back aparently it was copied over. Again, this was a mistake and it was only there for two days max.

Again I want to thank NewB. I saw your thread about re-reviewing Programs and thought, 'Good, now he will see how everything is as it should be." LOL So again I thank him.

Now I will go and read all this.

I want to believe you. I really do. I've had incredible coincidences occur that the reality was just too implausible despite that being the way things actually occurred. BUT, wayback indicates that those hard coded links have been in place since as far back as July 10.

Porn Nerd Network - Exclusive Network Of Adult Websites

I'm not going to re-review your program today, but I will continue to keep an eye on it. At some time in the future, if everything appears above-board between now and then, I may decide to give it another go. Then again, I may not.

[CaptainHowdy]

It must be an honest mistake ...

[babeterminal]

but but its not my fault but but it was this it was that but but yeah we believe ya but but

you were caught again!!!

[candyflip]

Rogue ftp program.

Originally Posted by newB

I want to believe you. I really do. I've had incredible coincidences occur that the reality was just too implausible despite that being the way things actually occurred. BUT, wayback indicates that those hard coded links have been in place since as far back as July 10.

Porn Nerd Network - Exclusive Network Of Adult Websites

So much for that excuse.

[Penny24Seven]

LOL it just so happened again over a year later. I believe it and I believe Obama is Jesus also. What do I know

[The Porn Nerd]

Actually, it was. I investigated further and realized the problem. I have 7 employees with FTP access to my server and they go in almost daily. They would upload old files over-writing new ones. So when that site would refresh the old file would appear again. I did not realize this but shit happens, especially with out-sourced overseas employees and a 12 hour time differance. I have now confirmed EVERY employee has this bad file deleted so this will never happen again.

Originally Posted by candyflip

Rogue ftp program.



So much for that excuse.

I advertise for affiliates, I post here a lot, I knew this review of my Program was coming. This was not intentional and I am furious this happened. But I do want to thank NewB again for pointing this out. You can believe me or not but what can I do? Mistakes happen and I am sorry. This won't happen again now.

If ANY Porn Nerd Cash affiliate feels they were not compensated for their traffic please contact me immediately (ICQ in sig or by email) and you will be compensated that same day via PayPal.

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by newB

I debated about opening this can of worms again, but decided those here promoting the PornNerdCash program deserved to know.

Current (3) affiliates have been alerted

[bluebook18]

good catch newB, thank you another addition on my list

[Mediamix]

[CPA-Rush]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

you missed the idiot

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by newB

So, it's been a year and a half since the thread where PornNerd announced the switch from Peabody to PornNerd and I called him out for over-writing affiliate IDs on Porn Nerd Network (formerly Mister Peabodys World) - this is the site you are directed to when you click the 'Updates' tab on the PornNerd sites.

At that time, he said he was waiting on billing approval and all affiliates would be credited blah, blah, blah.

Since then, he has been a model poster here: supportive and friendly, and often quite funny. So, I decided to give his program another chance and give it a fresh review. That is, until I found that nothing has changed! Well, that's not quite right - affiliate IDs are now being overwritten with '2439259' where before it was '2026216' when surfers hit that 'updates' page.

I debated about opening this can of worms again, but decided those here promoting the PornNerdCash program deserved to know.

Man, I wanted to like you and honestly wanted to let bygones be bygones and give your program a brand new and hopefully favorable review, but when you treat your affiliates unfairly, this is what you get.

Thanks for posting.

I remember that older thread and was curious about the follow up.

[MetaformX]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

First I should probably read the entire thread but I am posting this the instant I saw this. FIRST let me say Thank You NewB for pointing this out to me. Seriously, for real.

Here's is EXACTLY what has happened. This weekend, beginning Friday night, I was replacing every table of thumbnails on every one of my sites (updating them). As I did so for Porn Nerd Network - which is also a paysite and can be joined independantly - I refreshed the template. This was very late Friday night-early Sat morning. Apparently when I refreshed that template the OLD template with affiliate codes was updated. I did not even notice until this thread because I am still updating sites.

Please go to Porn Nerd Network now and see it has been deleted/reverted to how it has been for YEARS now. I sincerely apologize for any confusion and if ANY affiliates feel they were not properly compensated for their traffic contact me IMMEDIATELY and we will set things straight.

For the record: that file should NOT have been there, it was deleted years ago (or so I thought). But when we switched to new servers a few months back aparently it was copied over. Again, this was a mistake and it was only there for two days max.

Again I want to thank NewB. I saw your thread about re-reviewing Programs and thought, 'Good, now he will see how everything is as it should be." LOL So again I thank him.

Now I will go and read all this.

hahaha sure

[ctggls]

Bump... I would like to hear new excuses and explanations from The Porn Nerd

[First Person]

No wonder I haven't been seeing any sales from this program! Oh wait, his cookie-cutter sites are shit.

[ruff]

All the usual fucks johnny on the spot to shit on a working webmaster. Fuck the facts. Most of you asshats don't have two fucking nickels to rub together. Nothing but a nick and no substance. If we are to believe you, all ballers making huge bank. Nothing but time on your hands while your empires generate large. Mostly nothing though, just trolls and wannabees with anonymous accounts so you can stir shit. And there always BAKO, talking shit out of one side of his mouth and sucking cock in the other. Your posts are all the same, you basically offer nothing. Piss off.

[BAKO]

Originally Posted by ruff

All the usual fucks johnny on the spot to shit on a working webmaster. Fuck the facts. Most of you asshats don't have two fucking nickels to rub together. Nothing but a nick and no substance. If we are to believe you, all ballers making huge bank. Nothing but time on your hands while your empires generate large. Mostly nothing though, just trolls and wannabees with anonymous accounts so you can stir shit. And there always BAKO, talking shit out of one side of his mouth and sucking cock in the other. Your posts are all the same, you basically offer nothing. Piss off.

i offer nothing ? U dumb motherfucker. I'm the first person to sell Adult Friend Finder members area traffic to the whole world. What the fuck did you ever offer anyone?

[BAKO]

Ruff please admit that you are a washed up asshole with a old boat living in Florida. You do not have the balls to say whatever you said in this thread to my face. Now go suck your cheaters friends cock.

[ruff]

Originally Posted by BAKO

i offer nothing ? U dumb motherfucker. I'm the first person to sell Adult Friend Finder members area traffic to the whole world. What the fuck did you ever offer anyone?

Originally Posted by BAKO

Ruff please admit that you are a washed up asshole with a old boat living in Florida. You do not have the balls to say whatever you said in this thread to my face. Now go suck your cheaters friends cock.

You're a salesman Bako. That's all you are. You don't produce anything on your own. You are not a webmaster. You come out with a new product to pedal about every year or so don't you? You probably have about half the customers you might have if you had the good sense to keep your mouth shut.

But you know who I am don't you Bako? The only way you know anything about me is from my ProAdult days. Isn't that right? We met at the Diplomat shows back in the nineties. You remember that I was one of the top webmasters they had back then don't you? How are all of our Armenian friends doing these days? You wouldn't happen to know what happened to all that cash they stole from me and the other ProAdult webmasters would you? For me it's somewhere in the neighborhood of $30,000+. It's ok if you don't, the statute of limitations has run out on that little scam. You used to run with that crowd so I thought I would ask.

You also know I'm 6' 4" tall right at 250 lbs so I doubt I have much to worry about from the likes of you. I'm sure we'll meet someday. If I remember correctly you're about 5'2" or so. Face to face, you'll probably come up to my zipper. I'll be sure to put a lock on it.

And by the way, don't ever call my friend Mr. Porn Nerd a cheater unless you have proof and can back it up. We understand each other now don't we?

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Bout to be a shoot out up in here.

Oh snap.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by ruff

You're a salesman Bako. That's all you are. You don't produce anything on your own. You are not a webmaster. You come out with a new product to pedal about every year or so don't you? You probably have about half the customers you might have if you had the good sense to keep your mouth shut.

But you know who I am don't you Bako? The only way you know anything about me is from my ProAdult days. Isn't that right? We met at the Diplomat shows back in the nineties. You remember that I was one of the top webmasters they had back then don't you? How are all of our Armenian friends doing these days? You wouldn't happen to know what happened to all that cash they stole from me and the other ProAdult webmasters would you? For me it's somewhere in the neighborhood of $30,000+. It's ok if you don't, the statute of limitations has run out on that little scam. You used to run with that crowd so I thought I would ask.

You also know I'm 6' 4" tall right at 250 lbs so I doubt I have much to worry about from the likes of you. I'm sure we'll meet someday. If I remember correctly you're about 5'2" or so. Face to face, you'll probably come up to my zipper. I'll be sure to put a lock on it.

And by the way, don't ever call my friend Mr. Porn Nerd a cheater unless you have proof and can back it up. We understand each other now don't we?

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by ruff

And by the way, don't ever call my friend Mr. Porn Nerd a cheater unless you have proof and can back it up. We understand each other now don't we?

Proof was posted and backed up. He gave some bullshit excuse and that excuse was proven to be false.

Proof has been provided, you just choose to ignore it. For the past 8 months or so, he's been cheating anyone sending traffic to his sites.

[ruff]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Proof was posted and backed up. He gave some bullshit excuse and that excuse was proven to be false.

Proof has been provided, you just choose to ignore it. For the past 8 months or so, he's been cheating anyone sending traffic to his sites.

A bullshit excuse that was proven to be false? By who? I've been sending traffic to his sites and have been getting paid by CCBill for sales. So you are accusing Mr. Porn Nerd of cheating then based on exactly what now?

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Proof was posted and backed up. He gave some bullshit excuse and that excuse was proven to be false.

Proof has been provided, you just choose to ignore it. For the past 8 months or so, he's been cheating anyone sending traffic to his sites.

That wrong file was uploaded, deleted, re-uploaded, over-written, deleted....on and on until I discovered the problem. It was NOT up there constantly. Now the file is completely gone and I have actually fired 5 of my employees. Not over this per se but because things overall have gotten a little sloppy.

I will apologize one last time then not comment anymore because it was an honest mistake and there's nothing I can do about it now except make amends to any affiliate who feels slighted.

BTW: All this is over a site that gets 500 hits a day. Barely any sales whatsoever come from that site, it is simply a central 'hub' to give the Network some shape. Also, surfer behavior does not mean people click that link, by-passing the site they are already on. So any actual overwrites were so tiny I doubt there was any damage to affiliates at all.

BUT if ANY affiliate wants to go over their account, traffic, sales etc contact me via ICQ or email and you will be compensated immediately that day by PayPal.

Honest mistakes do happen people. I am a one-man show not a 'Bro' or a baller or Chris Mallick. ICQ in sig for affiliates to contact me.

[newB]

I did not intend for this to become a witch-hunt. I realize now I should have contacted him privately and given him the chance to fix the issue and failing that brought the issue here. In my defense, though, this was a bit of a hot-button topic for me provided our past history, and I was kind of incensed at the time.

As I said above, I have been in implausible scenarios that were not at all what they appeared, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here. Intentional or not, I think he knows he's burned through his second chances and he's going to be under a lot of scrutiny from here on out.

Ruff - I assume you're the same Ruff whose program he bought, meaning you aren't all that impartial. Even if it was an honest mistake that doesn't change the fact that the mechanism was in place to shaft referring affiliates - perhaps unknowingly, but there nonetheless. Trying to make this out to be some sort of smear campaign is disingenuous.

Mr. Nerd - I see now that I should have messaged you about this privately and allowed you to rectify the situation without it becoming such a public spectacle. The good news is that if you're too busy, there are now lots of people who will be watching it for you. Sorry, I thought that was funny.

Sending you a PM with an idea that might help your case (or it might bury you) after I send this.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by newB

I did not intend for this to become a witch-hunt. I realize now I should have contacted him privately and given him the chance to fix the issue and failing that brought the issue here. In my defense, though, this was a bit of a hot-button topic for me provided our past history, and I was kind of incensed at the time.

As I said above, I have been in implausible scenarios that were not at all what they appeared, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here. Intentional or not, I think he knows he's burned through his second chances and he's going to be under a lot of scrutiny from here on out.

Ruff - I assume you're the same Ruff whose program he bought, meaning you aren't all that impartial. Even if it was an honest mistake that doesn't change the fact that the mechanism was in place to shaft referring affiliates - perhaps unknowingly, but there nonetheless. Trying to make this out to be some sort of smear campaign is disingenuous.

Mr. Nerd - I see now that I should have messaged you about this privately and allowed you to rectify the situation without it becoming such a public spectacle. The good news is that if you're too busy, there are now lots of people who will be watching it for you. Sorry, I thought that was funny.

Sending you a PM with an idea that might help your case (or it might bury you) after I send this.

No worries man. While a private contact is always better, I am also an emotional fellow at times so I understand. When I thanked you I meant it. I would not have noticed if you did not say something.

The thing about that site is that it's totally 100% automated. The thumbs rotate and update on a script, as does the video previews, and I have it like that so I do NOT have to check it every day. LOL In fact, I think I touch that site 3-4 times a year max (I have updates set for months in advance). That's really how I missed it being refreshed at times. If I checked that site daily I would've caught it.

Anyway, moving forward there should be no issues. Feel free to check as often as possible, I could use the traffic.

As for Ruff: he's a good man who also reacted right away. He now knows the full story. His former sites, the Aggressive Network, do not have that updates link, nor does my other AP Erotic Revenue.

[mopek1]

Both OP and PornNerd worked this out in a mature way.

Am I still on GFY?

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Both OP and PornNerd worked this out in a mature way.

Am I still on GFY?

The OP's "calling out" certainly set a new standard in professionalism.

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

That wrong file was uploaded, deleted, re-uploaded, over-written, deleted....on and on until I discovered the problem. It was NOT up there constantly. Now the file is completely gone and I have actually fired 5 of my employees. Not over this per se but because things overall have gotten a little sloppy.

If the problem would have been refreshing templates then the old aff-id 2026216 would be in the links again... because that was the aff-code that was in the links right before you removed those links in september 2013 after this thread:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...erdcash-2.html

But now aff-codes were not being overwritten by: aff-id 2026216 but overwritten by: aff-id 2439259. So... doesn't it seem that this is not an old but a recent problem? (unless you changed aff-id 2026216 into aff-id 2439259 right before the links were removed in sept. 2013... but then again... what would have been the logic of that?)

It doesn't sound logic to now overwrite aff-id's after first affaire in 2013.... every program owner knows he is being watched and tested... especially after a first "affaire"... (but i don't understand why there was a set up which over-wrote aff-id's in the first place...)

Have you thought of the possibility of an employee with server acces that secretly signed up as an affiliate and put that new aff-id in the code?

[Jel]

option A: Hi, I offer a service whereby I check your program and each site within it for possible fuckups, to ensure all is correct. I charge $xx per site, with a discount for a once-monthly check per site.

option B: Attention gfy! blahblah! moreblah! ps, blahfuckingblah!!!

How come I have only ever seen option B? Obviously *some* (few, really) instances programs are going to be shady, but does anyone *really* believe this wasn't just a fuckup, and that it was intentional? Wasn't there a long-ass multi-page thread just a few months ago where affiliates were nigh on salivating with hope that a program was purposely doing something shady, rather than understanding that any medium to large network is likely to hit snags, especially with updating, whether that be tours for a paysite, or 'free' sites? Has nobody here ever came across a site/page where they had the wrong linkcode up, or were linking to a 404 page, or any one of a number of possible mistakes?

Man, does the world love a drama. No wonder there's so much shit on TV.