some black people are fucking morons $.02

[Grapesoda]

Judge Lets Armed Robbers Off With Probation - Video

Judge Lets Armed Robbers Off With Probation- Three men who held a family at gunpoint and robbed them won't get jail time because this Judge was offended by the statement of the 3 year old victim.

[mineistaken]

He says "it won't affect my decision" lol
Will the people appeal this shit?

[Juicy D. Links]

Brassmonkey in 3 ...2 ....2..............1.....

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

Judge Lets Armed Robbers Off With Probation - Video

Judge Lets Armed Robbers Off With Probation- Three men who held a family at gunpoint and robbed them won't get jail time because this Judge was offended by the statement of the 3 year old victim.

ok so if the robbers were white she would be afraid of her parents???

[420]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Brassmonkey in 3 ...2 ....2..............1.....

nicely foretold

Who is going to win the kentucky derby?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

ok so if the robbers were white she would be afraid of her parents???

Do you understand she is 3 years old?
Anyway, it is not the point. The point is judge giving free pass to the perps because he was offended by 3 year old logic.
Why do I bother though, you can not comprehend even the simplest things..

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

ok so if the robbers were white she would be afraid of her parents???

All she knows is that someone that looks and acts very distinctively different from her and her parents and family terrorized her. Now she has post traumatic stress and is afraid of similar people. That doesn't require a psychology degree or Klan robe to understand.

Stop being obtuse and go back to robbery, murder, extortion, drug dealing, prostitution and drive-by shootings like any good Crip should.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Do you understand she is 3 years old?
Anyway, it is not the point. The point is judge giving free pass to the perps because he was offended by 3 year old logic.
Why do I bother though, you can not comprehend even the simplest things..

it is a point thats your opinion. its not a free pass they still were punished. its just not what you see as justice.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

All she knows is that someone that looks and acts very distinctively different from her and her parents and family terrorized her. Now she has post traumatic stress and is afraid of similar people. That doesn't require a psychology degree or Klan robe to understand.

Stop being obtuse and go back to robbery, murder, extortion, drug dealing, prostitution and drive-by shootings like any good Crip should.

well she needs treatment thinking all of a certain race are bad.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

Judge Lets Armed Robbers Off With Probation - Video

Judge Lets Armed Robbers Off With Probation- Three men who held a family at gunpoint and robbed them won't get jail time because this Judge was offended by the statement of the 3 year old victim.

He said that it won't affect that he is offended. At least that is what he says.

But I find it funny that the other guy says "This was home invasion.. (it should have stopped in here, but he continues).. there were husband and a wife and a three year old girl."

What is the fucking difference? You rob someone's house, does it really matter what people end up being in there? Unless it is especially taking advantage of old age, disability, etc. You know, planning it beforehand.

[j3rkules]

So if a white cop shoots a black guy (who is resisting in one way or another 100% of the time), white people must be racist. And when an armed black guy invades the home of white family with a 3 year old girl present and robs them.....well hell white people are racist again.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by aka123

He said that it won't affect that he is offended. At least that is what he says.

But I find it funny that the other guy says "This was home invasion.. (it should have stopped in here, but he continues).. there were husband and a wife and a three year old girl."

What is the fucking difference? You rob someone's house, does it really matter what people end up being in there? Unless it is especially taking advantage of old age, disability, etc. You know, planning it beforehand.

Maybe because home invasions with people inside are punishable more than empty house invasions? Basically (I assume or guess) he was suggesting that usual sentence for such a thing is harsher than probation.
As for what people were inside - circumstances probably matters as well, lets say your chances of getting some mercy if you invade a single adult male are higher than if you invade a family with small child. I do not know, just assuming.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by celebsnudehd

So if a white cop shoots a black guy (who is resisting in one way or another 100% of the time), white people must be racist. And when an armed black guy invades the home of white family with a 3 year old girl present and robs them.....well hell white people are racist again.

Indeed. Thank moronic guilters and similar scum for introducing such a way of thinking.

[dyna mo]

thanks judge, for reinforcing that little girl's fears.

a dad moment.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by celebsnudehd

So if a white cop shoots a black guy (who is resisting in one way or another 100% of the time), white people must be racist. And when an armed black guy invades the home of white family with a 3 year old girl present and robs them.....well hell white people are racist again.

killed shot and killed

the cop in question has a pattern of stopping and harming blacks. did these thieves in this case hurt any of the victims?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Maybe because home invasions with people inside are punishable more than empty house invasions? Basically (I assume or guess) he was suggesting that usual sentence for such a thing is harsher than probation.

So, you are punished for something that is more like a "luck" factor? I can understand if it is intentional to rob a house with people in, but if that is just a coincidence, it is not a very good reason to add up into sentence.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

So, you are punished for something that is more like a "luck" factor? I can understand if it is intentional to rob a house with people in, but if that is just a coincidence, it is not a very good reason to add up into sentence.

home invasion crime includes the perps knowing/expecting in advance that the home is occupied and committing a violent crime against the occupiers.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

thanks judge, for reinforcing that little girl's fears.

a dad moment.

Your kid watches much trials?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

Your kid watches much trials?

your kid drink a lots of vodka?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

home invasion crime includes the perps knowing/expecting in advance that the home is occupied and committing a violent crime against the occupiers.

Yes, if it can or should be assumed with enough certainty that the house is habitated, that makes sense. But what about the people those end up being in there? Extra penalty if there happens to be a kid? A wife? Lonely pervert?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

your kid drink a lots of vodka?

Not really. Actually I haven't drinked at all for a over a month (I usually drink weekly basis). And it is not usually vodka if I drink that kind of stuff, although the difference is semantic.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by aka123

So, you are punished for something that is more like a "luck" factor? I can understand if it is intentional to rob a house with people in, but if that is just a coincidence, it is not a very good reason to add up into sentence.

Not sure if there is much luck. There are crews who only do empty houses, there is no luck in predetermining that.

Again - I am just guessing, but since "home invasion" is separate thing than invading empty houses we could assume sentencing guidelines are different for both cases.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

Yes, if it can or should be assumed with enough certainty that the house is habitated, that makes sense. But what about the people those end up being in there? Extra penalty if there happens to be a kid? A wife? Lonely pervert?

absolutely. it's called assault with a deadly weapon, etc et al on&on, more. yadda yadda.

[kane]

Allow me to fix the title, "Some people are fucking morons."

[Horatio Caine]

There is brassmonkey in every crowd

[alizaliza]

Really....................?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by aka123

But what about the people those end up being in there? Extra penalty if there happens to be a kid? A wife? Lonely pervert?

Again, as I said - your chances of getting mercy are higher if you attack healthy male VS if you attack a female with a child as an example.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

well she needs treatment thinking all of a certain race are bad.

She's 3 years old retard. If it was a circus clown that broke into her home and threatened to kill her family, she'd be afraid of circus clowns. It's a very normal response. You need therapy for somehow making the 3 year old the villain... when the two din do nuffin idiots who actually committed a violent crime against her, should be in prison for many years but aren't, and you're cool with that.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Not sure if there is much luck. There are crews who only do empty houses, there is no luck in predetermining that.

What if you are sucky criminal?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Again, as I said - your chances of getting mercy are higher if you attack healthy male VS if you attack a female with a child as an example.

I though we are talking about robbing a house, not conducting some kind of attack. Or is this some USA style that it is either shooting to dead or nothing, whether you are police or criminal?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by kane

Allow me to fix the title, "Some people are fucking morons."

judges do all kinds of things. a judge in Az said illegals aliens have the green light to find work in Az. Op made it about race

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by aka123

I though we are talking about robbing a house, not conducting some kind of attack.

Yes, we are talking about robbing a house. As in robbing a house with a single male as opposed to robbing a house with family with small child.
You asked if there was a difference, I answered about the chances of judge being harsher or softer based on that.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Yes, we are talking about robbing a house. As in robbing a house with a single male as opposed to robbing a house with family with small child.
You asked if there was a difference, I answered about the chances of judge being harsher or softer based on that.

Yes, you answered so, but I didn't ask what your judges think about it. It was general thinking about what is right and wrong.

Justified sentences are part of a right and wrong in civilized societies, not just; "Witch, burn her!".. oh sorry, I meant "Criminal, burn him!"

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by aka123

What if you are sucky criminal?

Same as everywhere n everything. For example you may speed your car and hit a deer, you may speed a car and hit a man. You would be charged differently, although you may have been just "unlucky".
Or you may be a doctor who mixes up meds by mistake, one can mix up to something not dangerous, another can mix up to something deadly. Second one would be charged more, just because he was "unlucky".
So your argument is strangely stupid here...

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by aka123

Yes, you answered so, but I didn't ask what your judges think about it. It was general thinking what is right and wrong.

Judges think that because it is accepted way of thinking of what is right and wrong by general population.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Same as everywhere n everything. For example you may speed your car and hit a deer, you may speed a car and hit a man. You would be charged differently, although you may have been just "unlucky".
Or you may be a doctor who mixes up meds by mistake, one can mix up to something not dangerous, another can mix up to something deadly. Second one would be charged more, just because he was "unlucky".
So your argument is strangely stupid here...

Usually it is considered whether it was accident or not. Hunting men with a car or speeding and accidentally hitting someone aren't exactly the same things.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Judges think that because it is accepted way of thinking of what is right and wrong by general population.

I assume you mean US population. Though judges giving some sentence doesn't mean that it is a consensus amongst the population too. Like you can see from this thread; read the first post and a few other.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by aka123

Usually it is considered whether it was accident or not. Hunting men with a car or speeding and accidentally hitting someone aren't exactly the same things.

sure they are in his mind

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by aka123

Usually it is considered whether it was accident or not. Hunting men with a car or speeding and accidentally hitting someone aren't exactly the same things.

Since you still do not understand simple things, let me lay out another analogy.

So we established that robbing empty house gets you softer sentence than invading house with people.
You claim that it should not be so because it is "accident" weather you invade empty or full house.

My analogy:
Imagine perp 1 and perp 2.
Both robs a liquor store. Both decides to shoot attendant in the leg. One aims at a leg and shoots it, another aims at a leg and misses and kills the guy accidently.

Would you claim that both should be sentenced the same way because it was just accident that one was a bad shooter and missed? No? So same with the houses - if you were bad at planning empty house and accidently got full house - you get harsher sentence for home invasion instead of for robbing empty house.
How is that difficult to grasp?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

sure they are in his mind

Wrong, he completely misunderstood my point by posting that ridiculous "conclusion". So I laid out a better analogy for him, hopefully he will finally understand the simple point. There is hope because while he is pretty dumb, he is a genius compared to you.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Since you still do not understand simple things, let me lay out another analogy.

So we established that robbing empty house gets you softer sentence than invading house with people.
You claim that it should not be so because it is "accident" weather you invade empty or full house.

My analogy:
Imagine perp 1 and perp 2.
Both robs a liquor store. Both decides to shoot attendant in the leg. One aims at a leg and shoots it, another aims at a leg and misses and kills the guy accidently.

Would you claim that both should be sentenced the same way because it was just accident that one was a bad shooter and missed? No? So same with the houses - if you were bad at planning empty house and accidently got full house - you get harsher sentence for home invasion instead of for robbing empty house.
How is that difficult to grasp?

a felony is charged to both. why are you making up shit?? where are you from??

[Diomed]

I just want to pop in and say thank you to Brass Monkey.

For confirming ALL of the reasons why people take issue with you and your blind prejudice towards black people just because you share the same colored skin.

For the record,

that judge was a fucking moron. He can be "extremely offended" all he wants.. it was a fucking HOME INVASION of a wife, husband, and 3yr daughter.. held at gunpoint.

I think it's perfectly natural for the little gear to fear black people after that.. Just like if it was a shaved headed neo-nazi busting in a black persons home and holding the husband wife and 3 year old daughter up at gun point.

The little black girl would fear white people with shaved nazi heads. Because she would associate all people like that with that culture.

Same with black people who embrace this bullshit gangster rap culture

[aka123]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Since you still do not understand simple things, let me lay out another analogy.

So we established that robbing empty house gets you softer sentence than invading house with people.
You claim that it should not be so because it is "accident" weather you invade empty or full house.

My analogy:
Imagine perp 1 and perp 2.
Both robs a liquor store. Both decides to shoot attendant in the leg. One aims at a leg and shoots it, another aims at a leg and misses and kills the guy accidently.

Would you claim that both should be sentenced the same way because it was just accident that one was a bad shooter and missed? No? So same with the houses - if you were bad at planning empty house and accidently got full house - you get harsher sentence for home invasion instead of for robbing empty house.
How is that difficult to grasp?

You keep different opinion as "not understanding"? In a case that is quite subjective?

Your presented case; I haven't said they should be sentenced the same way, but it should be taken into account that the killing wasn't purposely.

And regarding the house; I asked that should it be more or less punishable depending on who happen to be in the house (just being, no fucking assaulting them). Like woman vs pervert from GFY? The thing is it empty of full altogether was just continuum for that. Still, it should matter was it intentional or not, if such thing is known. And you just keep telling what kind of sentence you get, but I ask what you should get. There is a fucking difference in that.

[Tom_PM]

I think the fact that the judge wanted it to be part of the record will come back to haunt him because his words are those of an idiot. Sorry, but a 3 year old childs reactions after a home invasion were included in the report he read and he seems to feel personally hurt by this childs honest reaction. Get the fuck over it, pal! He also seems to think that the parents are teaching the child to be afraid of black people for some reason because of the childs aversion to someone who looks like the only person who has ever scared her in her entire life. Get the fuck over it, pal! This judge is a sorry excuse for an intellectual and I hope in his district it is an elected position and that he's shown the door at the next election. Or maybe someone like the mayor of his town can fire his dumb ass.

Listen you guys, if you don't think he's an idiot based on his own words in this situation, you have taken leave of your senses! I don't give a fuck what color you are like 80% of this board seems to, I"m just saying if you can't see that he's an adult assigning the powers of intelligent thought process and social concerns to a three year old and objecting to it then you need some thicker glasses! Something is wrong with this nut and it would be if he were white too. His shit opinion that the child would not fear white males if it had been white males proves it! Of COURSE she would be! It's a fucking three year old child!

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

a felony is charge to both. why are you making up shit?? where are you from??

Wow, both felonies, I was expecting Misdemeanor, you really schooled me, genius...
Idiot, one felony can give you x years, another y years. I was explaining that being a "bad criminal" does not get you less years just because you accidently did something that turned out to be a different (harsher) charge.
You are dumb as a 3 year old, if that.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by aka123

Your presented case; I haven't said they should be sentenced the same way, but it should be taken into account that the killing wasn't purposely.

I never said it should not be taken into account.

Originally Posted by aka123

I haven't said they should be sentenced the same way

So we agree then.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Tom_PM

Listen you guys, if you don't think he's an idiot based on his own words in this situation, you have taken leave of your senses!

Fact.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Diomed

that judge was a fucking moron. He can be "extremely offended" all he wants.. it was a fucking HOME INVASION of a wife, husband, and 3yr daughter.. held at gunpoint.

How common is for perps to just get probation for this? Like 1 in 10? 1 in 100?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

How common is for perps to just get probation for this? Like 1 in 10? 1 in 100?

90 % won't even see trial in US. Guilty or not.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Wow, both felonies, I was expecting Misdemeanor, you really schooled me, genius...
Idiot, one felony can give you x years, another y years. I was explaining that being a "bad criminal" does not get you less years just because you accidently did something that turned out to be a different (harsher) charge.
You are dumb as a 3 year old, if that.

says the one that throws random insults. you cant control your temper. i bet you patch punched holes in the walls frequently