dyna mo

my endo has me trying different insulin protocols to try to deal with night time glucose swings, ugh.

MK Ultra

Holy Shit! How are you even still alive?

My morning reading has been averaging around 148 but I'm a Type 2, A1C last week was 6.0 which is a lot better than it's been in a while.











































fucking happy now?

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MrBottomTooth

Isn't it normally supposed to be around 5 - 7? Or is that a different reading I am thinking of?

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rhon23

wow thats scary. Are you on insullin? What do you take? If my mornings are running extremely high I adjust with more Lantus at night. Go to your endo asap. You need adjustments. I am a type 1 though and insullin dependent

rhon23

average numbers are between 80 and 120 ish

MrBottomTooth

OK, not sure what I am thinking of then. Maybe I just have the decimal in the wrong place.

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Barry-xlovecam

Don't eat after 9 pm?
Exercise a bit before you go to bed?
I take l-cartine 1000mg before bed -- no proof that it helps the insulin resistance
All of this dropped my morning readings 163 to 129. So: -20% (at best)
That is a scary number ... almost 600

MK Ultra

You're probably thinking of A1c, long-term glucose measurement

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dyna mo

yeah, my nurse practicitoner shit a brick when i texted her that this morning.

yeah, i'm a type 1 too, but have super huge (brittle) glucose swings and still very insulin sensitive, so it's a nightmare sorting it out, using lantus + regular and we;re trying different times to fire the lantus, on account of my over night time readings are like a roller coaster, actually trying a bit of carbs right before bedtime to see if that evens things out overnight.

got things back to 115 already now.

thinking of doing a bit of exercise right before bed. 129 is ~where i shoot for,

420

You're thinking of average penis size in humans.

brassmonkey

if you eat healthy u wont need that. not just talking shit

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rhon23

yeah I go through bad periods as well. I do lantus in the morning and at night then I am on novalog on a scale. Seems to work for me but as much as i can keep stable it always fucks up in some way or another. Fucking Diabetes I hate it.

MakeMeGrrrrowl

Jesus Christ Dyno. That's terrible.

Did you feel that it was high before you took it? What do you do when it's that high? Work out?

dyna mo

as fucking usual, you're completely talking shit. fuck you and get the fuck out of this thread with that fucking bullshit.

fuckwad.

MrBottomTooth

That's using the metric system, right?

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dyna mo

exactly, right?

just when a scale starts working, it all the sudden don't and then a mad scramble to find something that works. I just stop eating entirely, drink a shit ton of water and start back eating slowly. doc always wants to attack it with insulin first, more more more. fuck that.

had no different feeling at all, good news is i didn't spill any ketones over, i do have a pretty high level before that happens, like 800, but when that does happen, i'm pretty much completely out of it.

PR_Glen

yeah eat healthy fucker! haha


I'm surprised you can even get those kind of readings. I'm assuming you are still doing intermittent fasting to some degree? doesn't that normally keep things in check? I recall you being even more extreme than I was doing it ie 18 hour fasts and up.

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dyna mo

i know, right? he's trying to troll too hard.

yup, i IF every day, and last night/this morning are no different than my usual routine. i still have not eaten today, last meal lat nite was chicken breast, parmesan rissoto and cole slaw at 7pm. i'll fast for the rest of the day.

it totally keeps things in check, but even without food my glucose is squirrely. but after 32 years of working on it, IF is what keeps it in check the best, combined with diet, activity and injections of course.

brassmonkey

had family eat right shit went away. are you eating complete meals no sugar?

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Slappin Fish

Type 1 diabetes doesn't matter what he eats it can't go away you dumbfuck.

dyna mo

that's the part he's entirely clueless about.

PR_Glen

i was being sarcastic. I've pretty much learned how to burn fat 3x more effectively and balance my blood sugar levels from reading Dyna's posts over the years. I'm sure we can all learn something from him when it comes to glucose control. Telling people to 'eat healthier' helps no one, because practically nobody knows what that is, including you i'm sure.

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dyna mo

anyway, i recommend intermittent fasting to everyone, especially diabetics. it's not a cure-all, especially if you're severe, but it's a gigantic help. you spend most of your 24 hour day with an empty stomach. hunger pangs are in your head.

i even recommend it for brassmonkeys.

dyna mo

hah, hey, thanks man, i usually check my angle on nutrition with your's and choopa Phil posts to make sure i'm going in the right direction.

Barry-xlovecam

I just came in from 20 minutes of raking the flowerbeds out it's 77F(25C) Worked up a sweat and checked my blood sugar 103, YAY! I ate a small lunch a couple of hours earlier.

Problem is, I can't work like a laborer all day -- but exercise is the ticket for me -- the worst I have seen is a peak around 200 that was 30 minutes after a meal. You fast when you sleep but are inactive (sleeping). Maybe you are sleep eating It has to be a metabolic affect. Maybe exercise 10 minutes when you wake up in the middle of the night to take a piss?

dyna mo

raking great exercise right? sometimes i wouldn't mind raking a yard.

i'm with you, rigorous and vigorous exercise/activity combined with constant monitoring of every gram of what goes down the hatch. i count calories/monitor portions like a fiend.

but yeah, so specifically, i plateau and crash on my glucose 1-3 x every night. lantus is a long lasting insulin that works well on this part of it and has been doing fine up until it stopped. so, trying new interval, the latest interval, which was moving the lantus shot to the morning was a not ideal, so back to night tonight and then am trying a split, like rhon23

dyna mo

the squealer has a good idea about eating too, you just have to pry the info out of him is all. )

SuckOnThis

You're confusing type 1 and type 2 diabetes, two totally different diseases.

MakeMeGrrrrowl

I apologize if this is OFF topic - but it's not necessarily off topic. It spoke about fasting and how it's not good to eat multiple small meals a day and what it does to your sugars. It was something I watched this morning in regard to the Paleo diet? I found it interesting, check it when you have a minute.

MK Ultra

Yeah I can imagine, my doctor freaked out a little bit when he saw a 300+ in my log from the day I took a reading two hours after eating an entire pizza.

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Sorry to hear bout your issues Dyna! I hope you get it sorted ASAP

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fuk you and that 3rd world country

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dyna mo

i'll check it out, i'm with you already though, the multiple small meals protocol is a huge marketing ploy. it also supports overeating, for a guy my age and size, i only need ~1300 cals a day basic. with an activity, i only need an addition 200-300 cals per hour of vigorous activity, so even on busy days, max cals for me is 1800 tops.

that's ~the minimum for recommended for me on standardized scales. i'm pretty much convinved we all need much much fewer calories than we realize or are told.

dyna mo

300 is up there, do you know where your ketone spill level is?

does pizza hit you harder than other foods? it does me. an equivalent meal of say, bread, meat, salad and potato doesn't fry my readings anywhere near what pizza does. pizza's good though...........

dyna mo

one of the great things about IF for me anyway is how easy it is. just skip breakfast! if you can get a 14 hour fast in 3-4x a week, that is a good thing! so eat dinner a bit earlier, skip breakfast and eat a bit later for lunch. food groups in moderation and good ratio of course.


thnks Phil, back to normal here!

TheMoneyMan

I bet your blood tastes sweet.

MK Ultra

I don't ketone test, my glucose averages are low enough that I guess it's just not indicated. My doctors have never brought it up and according to what I've read it's useful if your glucose is higher than 250 more than 2 consecutive readings, a 6.0 A1c puts me at a 135 +/- average.

250s rarely happen to me anymore and depends entirely on what I eat.

Pizza hits me the hardest of all foods, it's mostly bread. Which is why I can only indulge once a year at most, sometimes life just plain sucks

Carbs in general jack me up so I keep them to a minimum, I try to avoid (mostly) anything made with refined flour or starchy foods, even whole-wheat bread will cause a significant increase.
A couple nights ago I had a big bowl home made chicken soup with no noodles or bread and 2 hours later I was at 92, with noodles or some bread I would have been 160+

Where you eat bread, meat, salad and potato I eat salad, meat and vegetable. A diabetic nutritionist once told me that while sugar makes a huge spike in the blood it is gone pretty quickly, but carbs will build glucose slower and to a somewhat lower level but they keep it up for a far, far longer period of time, and that's when the damage happens.

But I still need some work on that portion control

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dyna mo

yeah, didn't mean to imply i eat bread on any routine basis, was just comparing a similar meal, the bread was the equivalent to the pizza crust, but even with the similarity, pizza would hit me harder than the comprable meal with bread.

i was just lolling, my ~12 hour fasting reading was double your 2 hours after eating an entire pizza reading! that's nutty, hah!

MK Ultra

I don't think there's any similarity at all.

Pizza is something like 75% bread, a "comparable meal" would have to have the bread portion making up 75% of the meal instead of the max 25% that it would normally.


It's like instead of making a sandwich with 4 oz meat and 2 slices of bread you make 4 sandwiches each with 1 oz of meat and 2 slices of bread.

That's a helluva lot of bread for one sitting. That's why pizza drives glucose to insane levels.

At least that's my theory


And I hope you get under control soon, levels like that are downright scary






Why the fuck is this thread making me so hungry?

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woah, so many sweet people here..

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shake

Exactly, saying watch what you eat when you have an organ in your body that doesn't work is like telling someone with no legs to just walk better. Pretty dumb.

dyna mo

the funny part was he just dropped by the thread to cure diabetes- just eat healthy and you won't have high blood sugar!