DMCA Could Help Make Working on Your Care Illegal

[avalanche]

This is ridiculous!!!

"It?s called the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). It?s been around since 2000 and started as anti-Internet piracy legislation. But automakers want to use it to try and make working on your own car illegal. Yes, illegal. The general premise is that unlike cars of the past, today?s vehicles are so advanced and use such a large amount of software and coding in their general makeup, altering said code could be dangerous and possibly even malicious."

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/gm-for...160000229.html

[L-Pink]

New cars might as well come with a locked hood only the dealer has a key to.

[RyuLion]

Sucks man.....

[SilentKnight]

Just to update the maps in my GPS nav is over $200 at the dealership.

So naturally I went online and found a Youtube video of a DIY hack. What I thought would be a relatively quick and simple process - turned out to be a nightmare of modifying the actual operating system of the vehicle.

After watching the video - I decided my GPS really didn't need updating that badly. Worst case scenario...I could always fall back on Mapquest - or flipping a coin.

[myleene]

Soon:

[Colmike9]

How are they going to do DMCA requests and how will they find out in the first place?..

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Colmike7

How are they going to do DMCA requests and how will they find out in the first place?..

OnStar can remotely unlock your car, tell police where it is and how fast it's going and even remotely slow down and stop the vehicle for the police, automatically notifies police if you have an accident and the severity of the accident based on speed, airbag deployment and other sensors, it can also run remote system diagnosis on engine/drivetrain, etc.

I'm sure they can tell if work is preformed without being plugged into a dealership computer. And that's just for GM products.

[Colmike9]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

OnStar can remotely unlock your car, tell police where it is and how fast it's going and even remotely slow down and stop the vehicle for the police, automatically notifies police if you have an accident and the severity of the accident based on speed, airbag deployment and other sensors, it can also run remote system diagnosis on engine/drivetrain, etc.

I'm sure they can tell if work is preformed without being plugged into a dealership computer. And that's just for GM products.

Disable OnStar?..

[brassmonkey]

this is kind of what gaming systems are already doing. if you break the seal on the console they void the warranty. also they put special screws in it.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Colmike7

Disable OnStar?..

Get this, it also will tell you via voice, that you are going to fast for the given posted speed limit. So the car is tracked, position and speed compared to known posted speed limit for that given stretch of road.

The information era is really starting to suck.

[Colmike9]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

this is kind of what gaming systems are already doing. if you break the seal on the console they void the warranty. also they put special screws in it.

If you're putting in a mod chip and don't need to return it, then it doesn't matter. Or softmod a console with many exploits in a few different games

Or go old school and take an N64, carefully solder out the 112 and 116 pin (dev0,dev1) and solder each to any 3.3v connection on the board. Boom, 3x clock speed

And any special screw like the Nintendo tri screws, just melt the blunt end of a pen a little and press it on the screw head until it cools..

(Sorry, I'm high..)

[Colmike9]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Get this, it also will tell you via voice, that you are going to fast for the given posted speed limit. So the car is tracked, position and speed compared to known posted speed limit for that given stretch of road.

The information era is really starting to suck.

Bunch of assholes

[SilentKnight]

I refer to the GPS tracker in our work vehicles as the 'GPS suppository'.

Now there's something I'd really enjoy finding a hack for somewhere. I'd love to disable that fucker.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Colmike7

If you're putting in a mod chip and don't need to return it, then it doesn't matter. Or softmod a console with many exploits in a few different games

Or go old school and take an N64, carefully solder out the 112 and 116 pin (dev0,dev1) and solder each to any 3.3v connection on the board. Boom, 3x clock speed

And any special screw like the Nintendo tri screws, just melt the blunt end of a pen a little and press it on the screw head until it cools..

(Sorry, I'm high..)

[American Psycho]

I will not buy a car w gps built in.
what a dam waste Of money.

Why would anyone want one With smartphones everywhere?

[crockett]

Its John Deere of all companies whom are pushing this. They are trying to claim you don't actually "own" their farm tractors but only pay for the useage of it.

The actually of it is that the DMCA act does make it illegal to modify the computer which runs a auto, tractor or what ever as its protected under that law. It's just none of the car manufacturers have really pushed it as it would make a large segment of aftermarket car products illegal.

[xXXtesy10]

look out rogue mechanic

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by American Psycho

I will not buy a car w gps built in.
what a dam waste Of money.

Why would anyone want one With smartphones everywhere?

The GPS was bundled with the Infinity sound system, MP3/CD/Aux input, bluetooth phone, backup cam...all-in-one.

I got tired of attaching a suction cup to the window for the Garmin GPS, wires trailing down and getting in the way.

It's a $46k vehicle I got for $23k. Couldn't say no.

And since we were also buying a new Kia Sorrento AWD at the same time, the dealer scrambled to give us major discounts on both vhicles.

[sandman!]

if your asking this question you have never owned a nice car with GPS built in.

Originally Posted by American Psycho

I will not buy a car w gps built in.
what a dam waste Of money.

Why would anyone want one With smartphones everywhere?

[PAR]

Blocking gps in a work truck is as simple as buying a gps signal jammer. Cost about 100.00

As for car manufacturers not wanting people to alter the code that runs there car. I can understand this. I can vancom my car and change everything from the sensitivity of the breaks and stearing, traction control, to how the lights work.

As we get closer to self driving cars maybe we shouldn't be altering the software. Do you really want to be driving in front of someone who is using speed sensing cruse control that has changed their brake settings.or next to someone using lane keep that has altered the code for their stearing ratio.

[American Psycho]

Originally Posted by sandman!

if your asking this question you have never owned a nice car with GPS built in.

No never have owned one and wont.
Have money if desired but its just not.

ive rented and driven many with gps Built in. Sure its nicer a bit but for the added cost its not worth it imo. I have a big phone and a good mount.
also its anoter damn computer that might break or whatever...ill pass and take the 5k for built in gps lcd and use it for something else.

Just like built in tv's. Id take a portable ipad with mount anyday over built in ones

[Relentless]

Car ownership will be all done in the next 20 years. So will driving.

Once driverless cars hit the roads in large numbers and can communicate with each other you will see accident rates drop by 99% vs cars driven by humans. It will then cost thousands of dollars per month to buy car insurance for a manually driven vehicle.

Most cars currently sit parked 20+ hours per day. That's a huge waste of resources. The new paradigm will be uber inspired subscription services. You pay 29.99 per month, use a phone app to call a ride and get picked up within five minutes by a driverless car anywhere you go. Meanwhile all of the idle vehicles reposition themselves and park where they will be needed next based on traffic patterns, normal usage, inventory per area and so on.

It will be a much better system than owning a car, will save a fortune for people, will be infinitely better for the environment, will allow speed limits to go to 100+, and will put many millions of people out of work.

Upgrading your own gps will be pointless. Massive unemployment will be the actual problem and better gps won't fix that.

[Rochard]

Sucks to be you all.

This is my 1990 Chevy Stepside. Twenty-five years old, 170k miles on it, strong like an ox.

[American Psycho]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Sucks to be you all.

This is my 1990 Chevy Stepside. Twenty-five years old, 170k miles on it, strong like an ox.

nice truck. But put some bigger tires on it dammit

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Sucks to be you all.

This is my 1990 Chevy Stepside. Twenty-five years old, 170k miles on it, strong like an ox.

what a piece of shit

[shoot twice]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

The information era is really starting to suck.

What can I say??? People keep buying the products and thereby keep funding the technology that will one day be used to control all of us. So personally I wouldn't drive or by any car that has a computer in it and I know how to read a map.

Now if you really want to get scared where the information era is heading then watch this video. In fact if it doesn't scare the shit out of anyone seeing it then there's something seriously fucking wrong in their head.


Here's the video : https://vimeo.com/121401212