``````6 Cops charged in Freddie Grays death ```````

[Juicy D. Links]

hopefully this will end the shitstorm and riots

[NewNick]

[Rochard]

I just read about this and I was surprised. At the same time I believe in our justice system, and I believe that in the end the truth comes out.

This statement says it all:

"In a news conference, the state?s attorney in Baltimore, Marilyn J. Mosby, described repeated mistreatment of Mr. Gray. Time and again, she said, officers abused him, arresting him without grounds and violating police procedure by putting him in handcuffs and leg restraints in the van without putting a seatbelt on him."

And I think it's true. This man - although he had a long criminal history - had done NOTHING wrong.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And I think it's true. This man - although he had a long criminal history - had done NOTHING wrong.

It's pretty normal police procedure to stop a known drug felon, a known drug felon awaiting trial, when he's hanging around a high crime/drug public housing area. Cops do that everywhere, that's part of their job when bicycle patrolling housing developments.

And when you run they chase you. When they find switchblade knives on convicted felons they arrest them. Nothing out of the ordinary here ..... Until he ends up dead.


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[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

It's pretty normal police procedure to stop a known drug felon, a known drug felon awaiting trial, when he's hanging around a high crime/drug public housing area. Cops do that everywhere, that's part of their job when bicycle patrolling housing developments.

And when you run they chase you. When they find switchblade knives on convicted felons they arrest them. Nothing out of the ordinary here ..... Until he ends up dead.


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Except the cops lied about it being a switchblade. It was a legal fold up knife and an illegal arrest.

[Bladewire]

I'd never heard of "rough rides" before this case.

[PornoMonster]

Guess police procedure will be to put a spit bag over all people being transported in the wagon from now on. Thus, they are now able to seat belt the person in, and end rough rides.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

hopefully this will end the shitstorm and riots

No, sadly it will not. It will just let them think they were right and to continue. Maybe on a smaller scale.

The big one will be on what the Verdict is on these guys.. I bet only the driver gets convicted ....

[ZeroHero]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Wicked dude

[brassmonkey]

the riots were just assholes looking to steal its a sad truth. they need to use camera footage to track sum of them down

[crockett]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

It's pretty normal police procedure to stop a known drug felon, a known drug felon awaiting trial, when he's hanging around a high crime/drug public housing area. Cops do that everywhere, that's part of their job when bicycle patrolling housing developments.

And when you run they chase you. When they find switchblade knives on convicted felons they arrest them. Nothing out of the ordinary here ..... Until he ends up dead.


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So far everything the cops have said, has been shown to be a lie. He didn't have a switchblade and the prosecutor has even said it was an illegal arrest.

[Tom_PM]

Yes, it is totally normal and not out of the ordinary whatsoever for cops to harass people and screw with them until they find something to charge them with, or just make it up. No sarcasm in this post, I'm saying it's normal 100% for this to happen. Nobody should be surprised, but a LOT more people should be completely disgusted and fed up.

[PornoMonster]

Anyone know how many of the 6 Police officers were Not white???

[L-Pink]

If someone falsified the arrest report they should get crucified. But when taking in a knife as evidence it's either legal for a convicted felon to carry or it isn't.

[sperbonzo]

unfortunately, it's quite possible that these officers would NEVER be facing justice if it wasn't for the video of his arrest, his family managing to get a great lawyer, and frankly, the lawyer working hard to get national attention to the case and start these protests.





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[Rochard]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

It's pretty normal police procedure to stop a known drug felon, a known drug felon awaiting trial, when he's hanging around a high crime/drug public housing area. Cops do that everywhere, that's part of their job when bicycle patrolling housing developments.

And when you run they chase you. When they find switchblade knives on convicted felons they arrest them. Nothing out of the ordinary here ..... Until he ends up dead.


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That's what I originally thought. However, it turns out they had no reason to arrest this man. He didn't have a switch blade; He had a legal knife. This man had done nothing wrong and ended up dead because of it.

[sperbonzo]

Meanwhile, police unions have set up rights and protections for the police that NO ONE else is entitled to...


April 24, 2015 1:34PM
Police Misconduct and ‘Law Enforcement Officers’ Bill of Rights’ Laws
By Walter Olson
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The problems of the teacher tenure system, especially in big cities where powerful unions defend members against dismissal, are familiar enough. Less well known is the newer, parallel–and arguably more alarming–rise of police and prison-guard tenure under what are known as Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights (LEOBR or LEOBOR) laws.

Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, for example, has blamed Maryland’s LEOBR law for frustrating the investigation into the death of Freddie Gray while in police custody. Maryland’s law provides that after an incident superiors cannot question an officer without the presence of a lawyer of the officer’s choosing, and that officers have 10 days to line up such representation. Critics say that by the time those suspected of misbehavior have to commit to a story, they will have had ample opportunity to consult with others about what to say. Most of the officers present have cooperated with the investigation of Gray’s death, the city says, but at least one has not.

While the details of LEOBR laws vary from state to state, Mike Riggs’s 2012 account in Reason (“Why Firing a Bad Cop Is Damn Near Impossible”) cites these features as typical:

Unlike a member of the public, the officer gets a “cooling off” period before he has to respond to any questions. Unlike a member of the public, the officer under investigation is privy to the names of his complainants and their testimony against him before he is ever interrogated. Unlike a member of the public, the officer under investigation is to be interrogated “at a reasonable hour,” with a union member present. Unlike a member of the public, the officer can only be questioned by one person during his interrogation. Unlike a member of the public, the officer can be interrogated only “for reasonable periods,” which “shall be timed to allow for such personal necessities and rest periods as are reasonably necessary.” Unlike a member of the public, the officer under investigation cannot be “threatened with disciplinary action” at any point during his interrogation. If he is threatened with punishment, whatever he says following the threat cannot be used against him.

What happens after the interrogation again varies from state to state. But under nearly every law enforcement bill of rights, the following additional privileges are granted to officers: Their departments cannot publicly acknowledge that the officer is under investigation; if the officer is cleared of wrongdoing or the charges are dropped, the department may not publicly acknowledge that the investigation ever took place, or reveal the nature of the complaint. The officer cannot be questioned or investigated by “non-government agents,” which means no civilian review boards. If the officer is suspended as a result of the investigation, he must continue to receive full pay and benefits until his case is resolved. In most states, the charging department must subsidize the accused officer’s legal defense.

A violation of any of the above rights can result in dismissal—not of the officer, but of the charges against him.

Maryland was the first state to pass a LEOBR, in 1972, and by now many states have followed, invariably after lobbying from police unions and associations. Often the bills are sponsored by Republicans, who seem to forget their normal skepticism of public employees as an interest group when uniformed services are involved.

Prison and jail guards are often covered by these laws as well, and scandals of corrections administration (the state-run Baltimore jail had a huge one in which the Maryland LEOBR was implicated) are often hard to investigate because of the law’s barriers. Union contracts often add further layers of insulation from discipline. In its coverage of abuse allegations at New York’s notorious Attica prison, for example, the New York Times reported, “Under their union contract, corrections officers are obligated to answer questions only from their employers and have the right to refuse to talk to outside police agencies. State Police investigators attempted to interview 15 guards; 11 declined to cooperate.”

Aware of Baltimore’s long (and still-unfolding) history of police misconduct, Mayor Rawlings-Blake and the state ACLU and other groups have called for a partial rollback of Maryland’s LEOBR. Yet its defenders are well organized, and reform bills never made it out of committee in the now-concluded state legislative session.

Meanwhile, Pennsylvania’s House unanimously voted last year to enact a “Correctional Officers’ Bill of Rights”–as if this all were completely uncontroversial. It shouldn’t be.





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[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Tom_PM

Yes, it is totally normal and not out of the ordinary whatsoever for cops to harass people and screw with them until they find something to charge them with, or just make it up. No sarcasm in this post, I'm saying it's normal 100% for this to happen. Nobody should be surprised, but a LOT more people should be completely disgusted and fed up.

I disagree with that.

I've had a dozen run ins with the police, and I was a smart ass when I was younger.... Yet oddly enough they never found a reason to haul me in to the station. I'm sure this happens, but not often.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by Tom_PM

Yes, it is totally normal and not out of the ordinary whatsoever for cops to harass people and screw with them until they find something to charge them with, or just make it up. No sarcasm in this post, I'm saying it's normal 100% for this to happen. Nobody should be surprised, but a LOT more people should be completely disgusted and fed up.

Not true.

It is only if you do not do what they are asking.....
Example We were driving up and down a know street for illegal activity.
The police pulled us over, did all the normal stuff, found out were were just sight seeing all the criminals, and let us go. several minutes later we were pulled over again, and told to leave the area or they would find something to charge us with. With as many laws that are on the books, we did not stay around to find out if they were bluffing...

I would bet that this guy was able to ditch some drugs or something, why run? Yeah yeah I know all the normal answers for running.....

Anyway sucks he had to die from the rough ride.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

unfortunately, it's quite possible that these officers would NEVER be facing justice if it wasn't for the video of his arrest, his family managing to get a great lawyer, and frankly, the lawyer working hard to get national attention to the case and start these protests.

The media can be powerful sometimes. Years ago ( another lifetime ), it wasn't until I went to the media, and did a televised press release, that I started getting fair treatment with my case, which should have been thrown out in the beginning. Dodgy judges change a lot when there's media in the courtroom.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Not true.

It is only if you do not do what they are asking.....
Example We were driving up and down a know street for illegal activity.
The police pulled us over, did all the normal stuff, found out were were just sight seeing all the criminals, and let us go. several minutes later we were pulled over again, and told to leave the area or they would find something to charge us with. With as many laws that are on the books, we did not stay around to find out if they were bluffing...

I would bet that this guy was able to ditch some drugs or something, why run? Yeah yeah I know all the normal answers for running.....

Anyway sucks he had to die from the rough ride.

Yea, this person did not do what they were asking.

This pig right here is who you are defending and showing support? Are you still supporting cops? You shouldn't be...they are a disgrace to humanity.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Not true.

It is only if you do not do what they are asking.....
Example We were driving up and down a know street for illegal activity.
The police pulled us over, did all the normal stuff, found out were were just sight seeing all the criminals, and let us go. several minutes later we were pulled over again, and told to leave the area or they would find something to charge us with. With as many laws that are on the books, we did not stay around to find out if they were bluffing...

I would bet that this guy was able to ditch some drugs or something, why run? Yeah yeah I know all the normal answers for running.....

Anyway sucks he had to die from the rough ride.

You have tunnel vision and think everyone else lives in your world; but we don't.

You don't factor in that a cop is a person and a person can be a criminal and being a
criminal explains behavior that you seem incapable of comprehending.

Some cops are criminals; fucking get over it.
Why believe fairy tales all of your life when you can just see the murders on video?

[ZeroHero]

Originally Posted by suckonthis

yea, this person did not do what they were asking.

This pig right here is who you are defending and showing support? Are you still supporting cops? You shouldn't be...they are a disgrace to humanity.

a.c.a.b !!!

[Just Alex]

Collateral damage. Just to please the masses.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

Collateral damage. Just to please the masses.

You're lucky the KKK outfit you have is made of material that can absorb your tears.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I just read about this and I was surprised. At the same time I believe in our justice system, and I believe that in the end the truth comes out.

Umm, right...ok.

[Juicy D. Links]

3 of the 6 cops are BLACK

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I don't think you need to kill someone for something like that

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

I don't think you need to kill someone for something like that

I know, that's why it's news.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

3 of the 6 cops are BLACK

They dindu nuffin, they are being unjustly prosecuted by The Man. Those other three are fucking murderers!

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

I don't think you need to kill someone for something like that

Let's not lose sight of the fact this guy was no angel.

He was a burden to society with an extensive rap sheet. How many lives did he ruin selling drugs?

Not to say what the cops allegedly did was justified by any means. But I can't shed any tears for this guy.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Let's not lose sight of the fact this guy was no angel.

He was a burden to society with an extensive rap sheet. How many lives did he ruin selling drugs?

Not to say what the cops allegedly did was justified by any means. But I can't shed any tears for this guy.

what's interesting about that is the 3-strikes federal law should have got this guy, based on the many different charges he's faced, and from what i've gathered he's done prison time 2x for drug dealing charges.

he should have already been in prison.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Yea, this person did not do what they were asking.

This pig right here is who you are defending and showing support? Are you still supporting cops? You shouldn't be...they are a disgrace to humanity.

yup while yes this might have been a career criminal I think 6 career criminals are being charged for his murder today.

I looked around gfy and couldn't find this posted but then again it's a white drunk girl and two white cops.. Not nearly worthy of a GFY thread

Video Shows Cops Allegedly Breaking Woman's Face During Arrest - ABC News



I don't think anyone should resist arrest but some people fear for their lives even if they didn't do anything wrong with today's trigger hungry corrupt cops.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

It's pretty normal police procedure to stop a known drug felon, a known drug felon awaiting trial, when he's hanging around a high crime/drug public housing area. Cops do that everywhere, that's part of their job when bicycle patrolling housing developments.

And when you run they chase you. When they find switchblade knives on convicted felons they arrest them. Nothing out of the ordinary here ..... Until he ends up dead.


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how would you like to go to jail because some guy is so fucking stupid he can't sit in the back of a van with out killing himself ?

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

how would you like to go to jail because some guy is so fucking stupid he can't sit in the back of a van with out killing himself ?

sit?? they hand cuffed, shackled him, and placed face down in the back of this patty wagon that they drove him around for almost a full hour when they were less than 5 mins away from the jail they took him to.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Yea, this person did not do what they were asking.

This pig right here is who you are defending and showing support? Are you still supporting cops? You shouldn't be...they are a disgrace to humanity.

Some are yes. There are more than a million, lumping them all together is rather un politically correct isn't it?

[dyna mo]

i would think that if he hit his head hard enough on a bolt to kill himself, there'd be a bolt hole in his head there.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

what's interesting about that is the 3-strikes federal law should have got this guy, based on the many different charges he's faced, and from what i've gathered he's done prison time 2x for drug dealing charges.

he should have already been in prison.

I thought the same when I read his priors. I wondered how the hell a guy like him was still out on the street to begin with.

[Penny24Seven]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I disagree with that.

I've had a dozen run ins with the police, and I was a smart ass when I was younger.... Yet oddly enough they never found a reason to haul me in to the station. I'm sure this happens, but not often.

Once again... You do not have a long record so being a smart ass to the cops is not going to matter. Everyone did that shit so once again you compare apples to kites.

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I know, that's why it's news.

He is normally a week behind which always confused me until I got use to him riding the short bus

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Some are yes. There are more than a million, lumping them all together is rather un politically correct isn't it?

This is them all lumped together.

[L-Pink]

[QUOTE=SuckOnThis;20464559]This is them all lumped together.

Just so we are clear about your generalities.

All cops are crooked.

All Blacks are criminals.

All red-necks fuck family members.

All motorcycle riders do meth.

All …………..



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[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

This is them all lumped together.

I must've missed the group shot where they were lumped.

Were they lumped prior to the segment or afterward?

[RandyRandy]

Quote of the year:

?The state?s attorney, she?s the next best thing next to grape Kool-Aid. You could tell she was fed up. She was real about it, everyone on her team was real about the situation, and they made sure they got justice and justice prevailed,? he said.

Celebrations Begin In Baltimore As Some React To Officers’ Charges « CBS Baltimore

[sandman!]

[1215]

people in Baltimore should've been thanking police for knocking a dealer off the streets.

edit: and if you just had some back/spinal injury, shouldn't you be home resting instead of running anywhere?

[1215]

[midfinger]

The real issue is the federalized training of cops. They are being trained to be militaristic with a them vs us mentality. Trust me it is not just a racist white cop vs black guy thing. I know from personal family experience. My cousin was shot by a cop and damn near killed him. He is white shot by a white cop. My cousin is a national merit scholarship winner, Navy vet...was given special entrance to the Navy because of his eye sight being so bad, was a computer programmer working for the state, member of mensa and a father of 2 girls. It happened in a good neighborhood...literally across the street from a judges house. And he was unarmed with his hands up. He would be dead if after the cop started shooting he didn't cross his hart with both hands. The kill shots ripped through his hands leaving him with a left hand that has 30% mobility and a right that is 60% but he is alive. He just cant program anymore.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by 1215

people in Baltimore should've been thanking police for knocking a dealer off the streets.

edit: and if you just had some back/spinal injury, shouldn't you be home resting instead of running anywhere?

he never had a spinal injury till after the cops got their hands on him. There is rumors that he had a past spinal injury and settlement but it was debunked that it was his dad freddie gray Sr. not him.

[SBJ]

i looked up the pre existing spinal injury

The Fourth Estate also posted a second story claiming that Freddie Gray sued a taxi company in 2007 because of an accident he was involved in. That lawsuit was filed by his father, a family attorney told the Sun. The court records show that the person who filed the 2007 lawsuit had the same address as Freddie Gray Sr., not Freddie Gray Jr.

Did Freddie Gray Have Spinal Injury Before His Arrest? No | Heavy.com

[SuckOnThis]

[QUOTE=L-Pink;20464561]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

This is them all lumped together.

Just so we are clear about your generalities.

All cops are crooked.

All Blacks are criminals.

All red-necks fuck family members.

All motorcycle riders do meth.

All ????..



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Whats the matter, your 'he shouldn't have broke the law' argument doesn't hold up so now you resort to making shit up?

Tell us more about his switchblade.