Chris Christie throws his aids under the bus.. er bridge..

[crockett]

Christie din know nuttn! It's amazing how these politicians always take credit for everything until they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar.. Then they never know nothing about what was going on..


Former Chris Christie ally David Wildstein pleads guilty in George Washington Bridge traffic jam case - CBS News

NEWARK, N.J. -- Three former allies of Gov. Chris Christie were charged Friday in the George Washington Bridge traffic jam scandal that has cast a long shadow over Christie's White House prospects, and one of them pleaded guilty.

Christie himself was not publicly implicated.

David Wildstein, an official at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey at the time of the tie-ups, pleaded guilty to federal conspiracy charges and could face about two years in prison at sentencing Aug. 6.

In court, he said he and two other Christie loyalists closed lanes and engineered the traffic jams in September 2013 as political payback against a Democratic mayor, then concocted a cover story: They claimed it was all part of a traffic study.

The two people he implicated - former Christie deputy chief of staff Bridget Kelly and Bill Baroni, who was the governor's top appointee at the Port Authority - were charged in an indictment unsealed later in the day.

Wildstein gave no indication in court that Christie had any role in the scheme. But after the hearing, his lawyer, Alan Zegas, reiterated a claim he made last year that there's evidence that Christie knew about it as it happened.

The Republican governor has insisted all along that he knew nothing about the plot.

Lawyers for Kelly and Baroni planned afternoon news conferences to discuss the charges.

The nine-count indictment accuses Kelly and Baroni of conspiracy, fraud, deprivation of civil rights and other charges.

The scandal broke wide open more than a year ago when an email from Kelly to Wildstein was revealed. It read, "Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee." Wildstein's reply: "Got it." That exchange was key in the indictment.

The closing of two of three access lanes caused monumental gridlock at the George Washington Bridge, one of the busiest spans in the nation, linking New Jersey with New York City. School buses and emergency vehicles were held up, and commuters were stuck in traffic for hours over four mornings.

Wildstein said they orchestrated the lane closings to start on the first day of school to punish the mayor of Fort Lee, a town at the foot of the bridge, for not endorsing Christie's re-election bid.

Christie, who coasted to re-election in the fall of 2013, has called the scheme "stupid" and ridiculed the notion that he was even interested in an endorsement from Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich.

Before Wildstein appeared in court, Christie declined to comment Friday as he left a hotel in McLean, Virginia. But on Wednesday, when asked about impending action in the case, he brushed off the potential impact.

"I don't think that has anything much to do with me," he said.

Federal prosecutors scheduled an early afternoon news conference on the case.

By the time the incriminating email was made public, Wildstein had resigned, as had Baroni. The governor soon after fired Kelly and cut ties with Bill Stepien, his two-time campaign manager. Stepien was not indicted.

Questions over whether the lanes were closed for political retribution have been dogging Christie for more than a year. Christie has been gearing up for a 2016 presidential campaign but has not announced he is running.

[TheSquealer]

So a guy who has never been proven to know anything at all about it... was "throwing his aids under the bus" and you make that statement with zero proof that its true, because you don't like his political leanings? What does that say about you and your politics? How are you better?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

So a guy who has never been proven to know anything at all about it... was "throwing his aids under the bus" and you make that statement with zero proof that its true, because you don't like his political leanings? What does that say about you and your politics? How are you better?

One of the aids claims he knew.. Don't be stupid, you know damn well he knew exactly what was going on. It would be one thing if it was one rogue guy on his team then maybe there is deniability but not when it's several of them...

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crockett

One of the aids claims he knew.. Don't be stupid, you know damn well he knew exactly what was going on. It would be one thing if it was one rogue guy on his team then maybe there is deniability but not when it's several of them...

I don't like him at all. But again, there is zero actual proof of what you are claiming. You are just making it up... 100%. On top of that, you are telling me that "I know" its true when I clearly don't.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I don't like him at all. But again, there is zero actual proof of what you are claiming. You are just making it up... 100%. On top of that, you are telling me that "I know" its true when I clearly don't.

It says right in the article that the aid claims Christie knew what was going on as it was happening.. Why are you trying to lie about?

[dyna mo]

wasn't this a Soprano's episode? seems to fit that typical story line. fat new jersians in sansabelt slacks taking the wrap for higher up fat new jersey guys

[kane]

That is how it works. When you work for a politician you get none of the credit and all of the blame. Ask Scooter Libby how it works.

[2MuchMark]

No proof - sure... but...

[L-Pink]

He sealed his political future in New Jersey when he made public he was a Cowboy fan.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

He sealed his political future in New Jersey when he made public he was a Cowboy fan.

HEINOUS! what an insult to the New York football GIANTS. regardless of his bullying political style, that shit right there is fucked up!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

HEINOUS! what an insult to the New York football GIANTS. regardless of his bullying political style, that shit right there is fucked up!

It's the Patriots.. If you are in New England and don't claim to be a Patriots fan.. You are shunned..

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

HEINOUS! what an insult to the New York football GIANTS. regardless of his bullying political style, that shit right there is fucked up!

Not just rooting for the cowboys but accepting an all expense paid trip from Jerry Jones.

Here he is in the owners box celebrating with Stephen and Jerry Jones.






.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

HEINOUS! what an insult to the New York football GIANTS. regardless of his bullying political style, that shit right there is fucked up!

The South Jersey Philadelphia Eagle fans weren't amused either.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by GregE

The South Jersey Philadelphia Eagle fans weren't amused either.

Lot of trash talking from a Tampa fan huh?

.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's the Patriots.. If you are in New England and don't claim to be a Patriots fan.. You are shunned..

Eh? Don't the giants play in Jersey?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Not just rooting for the cowboys but accepting an all expense paid trip from Jerry Jones.

Here he is in the owners box celebrating with Stephen and Jerry Jones.






.

I remember that! As an NFL fan, I was embarrassed.

[baddog]

The word is aides, not aids.

Carry on.

[midfinger]

Nice catch baddog lol

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by crockett

One of the aids claims he knew.. Don't be stupid, you know damn well he knew exactly what was going on. It would be one thing if it was one rogue guy on his team then maybe there is deniability but not when it's several of them...

And Obama knew what was going with Benghazi and people died yet you could give a flying fuck!

[bronco67]

I hope he gets aids.

[Joshua G]

to me the issue is not what christie knew, but instead the character of the people he chose to run his administration.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Dvae

And Obama knew what was going with Benghazi and people died yet you could give a flying fuck!

Ok, I'll try to figure out how the mice which run around in your empty head opperate..

Somehow you expected Obama to whip out his dick and stop an attack on an embassy in a another country, without having troops on the ground or anywhere close enough to do anything at all.

OK I can't figure out how your empty brain works..please explain how Obama was supposed to stop a single embassy attack while something like 12 happened under Bush, yet you seem to not remember those..

[Acepimp]

Gotta agree with Crockett on this one. Of course he knew about the traffic jam as it was happening. He probably have the order to Kelly to make it happen..

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

to me the issue is not what christie knew, but instead the character of the people he chose to run his administration.

He seems slimey and is rude to the public at open events. When you see the open layout of their offices at the time, and knowing what a loud mouth & how bossy & rude he is, it defies common sense to think it fact that he fidn't know.

[Ferus]

Would never trust a person that fat - let alone vote for them.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by midfinger

Nice catch baddog lol

The first time he did it I gave him the benefit of the doubt and figured it was a typo. When he kept doing it I realized it was ignorance, so I tried to help educate him.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

The first time he did it I gave him the benefit of the doubt and figured it was a typo. When he kept doing it I realized it was ignorance, so I tried to help educate him.

It's called typing on a smart phone. Yes I admit, I'm horrible when it comes to going back and proof reading on a smart phone screen when I happen to be posting on one.

We all have our faults, at least I'm not a grumpy old man whom dresses up like a pirate or what ever your biker's costume is supposed to be.

[Rochard]

The scary thing is how petty some people can be. Do you seriously mean to tell me that a handful of people intentionally blocked up traffic for days making hundreds of thousands of people wait in traffic only because they wanted piss off a mayor?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's called typing on a smart phone. Yes I admit, I'm horrible when it comes to going back and proof reading on a smart phone screen when I happen to be posting on one.

We all have our faults, at least I'm not a grumpy old man whom dresses up like a pirate or what ever your biker's costume is supposed to be.

What the hell does a smartphone have to do with one's ability to spell?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

What the hell does a smartphone have to do with one's ability to spell?

I realize you are too old to use modern technology, but smartphones are pretty nortoious for auto correcting/changing words. If you don't notice it..

Ie.. aides is easily exchanged for aids. When typing on a small screen it's very easy to miss that the word was replaced..

Hell they have entire websites devoted to text messages for example where auto correct changed words to thing totally unrelated.

Edit..

Hell even this message.. I typed "ie" but it was changed to "I'd" making me go back and change it.

[baddog]

Let's try from my smartphone. AIDS aids aides aid aide. Afraid AIDS is the only word my phone tries to correct.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by crockett

Ok, I'll try to figure out how the mice which run around in your empty head opperate..

Somehow you expected Obama to whip out his dick and stop an attack on an embassy in a another country, without having troops on the ground or anywhere close enough to do anything at all.

OK I can't figure out how your empty brain works..please explain how Obama was supposed to stop a single embassy attack while something like 12 happened under Bush, yet you seem to not remember those..

Please, you're not capable of figuring it out.
As for me I have a brain inside my head and I assure its a fully functioning organ but if liberal loons such as yourself refer to your brain as "mice" then so be it. It would explain a lot.

As for Obama he had the power to stop the attack but no, too busy golfing.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Dvae

Please, you're not capable of figuring it out.
As for me I have a brain inside my head and I assure its a fully functioning organ but if liberal loons such as yourself refer to your brain as "mice" then so be it. It would explain a lot.

As for Obama he had the power to stop the attack but no, too busy golfing.

it's bizarre to me how libs hand-wave off benghazi. every investigation into it has concluded it was preventable/the state department fucked up by reducing security there when they had intelligence showing it was vulnerable and ripe for attack. and afterwards, the BO admin tried to misrepresent all that.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

Let's try from my smartphone. AIDS aids aides aid aide. Afraid AIDS is the only word my phone tries to correct.

Sure thing big boy..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's bizarre to me how libs hand-wave off benghazi. every investigation into it has concluded it was preventable/the state department fucked up by reducing security there when they had intelligence showing it was vulnerable and ripe for attack. and afterwards, the BO admin tried to misrepresent all that.

It's truly bizarre that 13 embassies were attacked under Bush admin and 60 people died in those attacks. Yet you guys never had a thing to say about it nor changed security in the 8 years of the Bush admin. Then suddenly it's different with Benghazi. Suddenly a single attack is now a major deal requiring investigation after investigation. Where were your investigations for the previous 13?

To even further push how hypocritical you guys are every single Benghazi investigation has cleared everyone in the Obama admin from any wrong doing yet you guys keep going on and on. 4,491 US service members have been killed in the Iraq war started by Bush, but they don't seem to matter as much to you guys as 4 Us citizens and 7 Libyans killed in the Benghazi attack.

Meanwhile it's been proven that Bush admin lied about WMDs in Iraq which he took us into war on false pretenses leading thousands of US service personal being killed. Not to mention who knows how many paid contractors and Iraqi civilians. Yet we wont hear a peep out of you guys over that.. There has actually been more investigations on a single attack at the Benghazi embassy over 4 US deaths than there were for the Iraq war counting over 4 thousand deaths.

Why are you guys so hypocritical?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Dvae

Please, you're not capable of figuring it out.
As for me I have a brain inside my head and I assure its a fully functioning organ but if liberal loons such as yourself refer to your brain as "mice" then so be it. It would explain a lot.

As for Obama he had the power to stop the attack but no, too busy golfing.

Once again, how did Obama have the ability to stop the attack? Just repeating your bullshit claims over and over does not make it true. Lets here your grand idea and information which no one else seems to have.. I'm all ears and waiting..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's truly bizarre that 13 embassies were attacked under Bush admin and 60 people died in those attacks. Yet you guys never had a thing to say about it nor changed security in the 8 years of the Bush admin. Then suddenly it's different with Benghazi. Suddenly a single attack is now a major deal requiring investigation after investigation. Where were your investigations for the previous 13?

To even further push how hypocritical you guys are every single Benghazi investigation has cleared everyone in the Obama admin from any wrong doing yet you guys keep going on and on. 4,491 US service members have been killed in the Iraq war started by Bush, but they don't seem to matter as much to you guys as 4 Us citizens and 7 Libyans killed in the Benghazi attack.

Meanwhile it's been proven that Bush admin lied about WMDs in Iraq which he took us into war on false pretenses leading thousands of US service personal being killed. Not to mention who knows how many paid contractors and Iraqi civilians. Yet we wont hear a peep out of you guys over that.. There has actually been more investigations on a single attack at the Benghazi embassy over 4 US deaths than there were for the Iraq war counting over 4 thousand deaths.

Why are you guys so hypocritical?

i know that to you, in your mind, an attack on the United fucking States of America is A-OfuckingK on account of, you know, Bush and all.

but really, it's not OK.

Again as i pointed out, you liberals hand-wave off Benghazi.
for whatever fucking reason you rationalize it in your minds.

[dyna mo]

i typed that on my smartphone too!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i know that to you, in your mind, an attack on the United fucking States of America is A-OfuckingK on account of, you know, Bush and all.

but really, it's not OK.

Again as i pointed out, you liberals hand-wave off Benghazi.
for whatever fucking reason you rationalize it in your minds.

Umm you do realize that Iraq did not attack the US don't you? al Qaeda aka bin Laden whom was very much in "Afghanistan" not in Iraq whom had absolutely not a fucking thing to do with attacking the US.

Please tell me you understand that Iraq did not attack the US..

[crockett]

ONLY Conservitards can take a topic about creating a traffic jam and try to somehow blame it on liberals & Benghazi.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

Umm you do realize that Iraq did not attack the US don't you? al Qaeda aka bin Laden whom was very much in "Afghanistan" not in Iraq whom had absolutely not a fucking thing to do with attacking the US.

Please tell me you understand that Iraq did not attack the US..

Umm, you do realize Benghazi is in Libya right?

please tell me you understand that the attack on the American Embassy in Benghazi was an attack on America.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Umm, you do realize Benghazi is in Libya right?

please tell me you understand that the attack on the American Embassy in Benghazi was an attack on America.

Once again.. 13 attacks on embassies (American soil) with 60 deaths mean nothing to you why? Why are those previous 13 attacks and 60 deaths less important than 4 Americans and 7 Libyans? Why do you not have any questions about those other attacks and only Benghazi?

Why do you not care as much about the 4,491 US servicemen killed in Iraq in a war which was started based on lies? Why is it you only care about Benghazi? What is so special about it and why does it deserve so much more scrutiny than all those other attacks and a entire war based on lies?

Why do you just blow off over 4 thousand deaths, yet support a witch hunt over 11?


See the difference is with me, you and your conservative nutjob friends. I've seen that there has been multiple investigations by guys whom "want" to find something to blame Obama/Hillary over. Yet even these guys whom want to find something to blame Obama & Hillary for, can't find anything to blame them for. That to me sends a pretty clear message that if they can't even find anything to blame them over there there is "nothing" to blame them over..

Meanwhile investigations have very much shown us that the Bush admin clearly and knowingly misled the American public and the world, yet you seem to be ok with that.. despite the deaths of 4,491 American troops.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

Once again.. 13 attacks on embassies (American soil) with 60 deaths mean nothing to you why? Why are those previous 13 attacks and 60 deaths less important than 4 Americans and 7 Libyans? Why do you not have any questions about those other attacks and only Benghazi?

Why do you not care as much about the 4,491 US servicemen killed in Iraq in a war which was started biased on lies? Why is it you only care about Benghazi? What is so special about it and why does it deserve so much more scrutiny than all those other attacks and a entire war based on lies?

Why do you just blow off over 4 thousand deaths?

see, this is why it's no fun debating you libs, it's too easy. i just pointed out how you hand-wave off Benghazi for any reason imaginable, and you counter-point that by, yup, hand-waving off Benghazi AGAIN. this time claiming it's A-OK on account of your assuming dyna mo didn't ask questions about previous attacks on America.

[dyna mo]

Inquiry harshly criticizes State Department over Benghazi attack | Reuters

thanks Obama and Hillary!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Inquiry harshly criticizes State Department over Benghazi attack | Reuters

thanks Obama and Hillary!

Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com

Why do you not care about the lies which cost 4,491 American lives?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

see, this is why it's no fun debating you libs, it's too easy. i just pointed out how you hand-wave off Benghazi for any reason imaginable, and you counter-point that by, yup, hand-waving off Benghazi AGAIN. this time claiming it's A-OK on account of your assuming dyna mo didn't ask questions about previous attacks on America.

I see how you conveniently "leave out" my answer to your question about Benghazi then go on to pretend as if I said nothing about it.

Also your entire point is stupid because the topic of this form post is about Christie and his bridge scandal yet you right wingers drag into talking about Benghazi. Seriously you can't be so dense as to try to make the argument that i'm changing the subject while you are debating in a topic in which you have changed the subject..

[SuckOnThis]

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

I see how you conveniently "leave out" my answer to your question about Benghazi then go on to pretend as if I said nothing about it.

Also your entire point is stupid because the topic of this form post is about Christie and his bridge scandal yet you right wingers drag into talking about Benghazi. Seriously you can't be so dense as to try to make the argument that i'm changing the subject while you are debating in a topic in which you have changed the subject..

the comparison to Benghazi was made and you replied to it, with typical lib BO apologist hand-waving by posing the silly question - what was BO supposed to do?. the answer has been determined. Not by me but by investigations that show he and Hillary's State Department were asleep at the wheel. Hillary was prolly distracted doing a CLinton foundation deal with Russia or something, but that's beside the point.

certainly you are not going to pull the you can reply to Benghazi comments but I can't card.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's bizarre to me how libs hand-wave off benghazi. every investigation into it has concluded it was preventable/the state department fucked up by reducing security there when they had intelligence showing it was vulnerable and ripe for attack. and afterwards, the BO admin tried to misrepresent all that.

Don't tell me, let me guess - you're a birther too, right?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the comparison to Benghazi was made and you replied to it, with typical lib BO apologist hand-waving by posing the silly question - what was BO supposed to do?. the answer has been determined. Not by me but by investigations that show he and Hillary's State Department were asleep at the wheel. Hillary was prolly distracted doing a CLinton foundation deal with Russia or something, but that's beside the point.

certainly you are not going to pull the you can reply to Benghazi comments but I can't card.

Don't try to lie.. Dvae went off in Right wing nut job mode about Benghazi. I replied to and asked why he didn't care about the previous attacks.


Then you went off to join him in Right wing lala land..

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's bizarre to me how libs hand-wave off benghazi. every investigation into it has concluded it was preventable/the state department fucked up by reducing security there when they had intelligence showing it was vulnerable and ripe for attack. and afterwards, the BO admin tried to misrepresent all that.

Even with you and him trying to divert the topic into your right wing lala land, I've held the same stance all the way through. Yet neither of you can do anything but Benghazi, Benghazi.. you whine about me somehow "changing the subject" yet it was you and then you can't even answer a question but whine once again claiming I don't answer yours.

I'v asked you multiple times why is it that Benghazi is more important than the lies told which got us into the Iraq war, leading to 4,491 American deaths. Why is you you don't bat an eye about the 13 attacks of embassies which happened under Bush again causing 60 deaths. Again why is Benghazi so special to you?

Here I'll answer because I already know the answer. You guys don't care about anything but "getting" Obama or Hillary.. you don't care about the negative effects your witch huts cause this country or the money spent. You only care about the Republican Party. Everything else is second fiddle including the country it's self.

The simple fact is you right wingers are sore loosers and you don't care how much your butt-hurt harms this country. You put party above anything and everything.