$30 Hot Dog Price in New York at hot dog vendor

[CAHEK]

Fights Break Out Over $30 Hot Dog Price at Stand Near Ground Zero: Officials | NBC New York

[mineistaken]

Ahmed Mohammed

[dyna mo]

i've read horror stories about the price of the permit to sell hot dogs there. like $25,000/month if i recollect.

[Juicy D. Links]

thats cheappp

[Shedevils]

Ahmed Mohammed selling $30 hot dogs at ground zero.

Al Qaeda has changed their tactics.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Would you buy a hot dog at ground zero from a guy named Ahmed Mohammed? Think about that ...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Shedevils

Ahmed Mohammed selling $30 hot dogs at ground zero.

Al Qaeda has changed their tactics.

was thinking about this in a way recently, if the terrorists were smart, instead of attacking AMerica, they would flood us with muslims and upset the system. like what they are doing in France and Britain

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i've read horror stories about the price of the permit to sell hot dogs there. like $25,000/month if i recollect.

I've heard the earth is flat

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by sonofsam

I've heard the earth is flat

and i'm sure you believe it too

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/ny...-dog.html?_r=0

[DBS.US]

They should just make a new rule about posting prices, then if the vendors don't have a posted price the city could give the a fine or take away their permit to sell.

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

They should just make a new rule about posting prices, then if the vendors don't have a posted price the city could give the a fine or take away their permit to sell.

NYC already has a rule that says vendors must post prices.

[dyna mo]

nothing like a bacon wrapped street dog!

[adultchatpay]

If it taste good, so be it.

[sandman!]

tourist trap for sure

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

and i'm sure you believe it too

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/ny...-dog.html?_r=0

Those prices are for carts that are in public parks or in front of museums. They're technically concessions that different colored carts, with the Parks Dept. logo on them. The price is the right to run the concession for a specific amount of time. I believe their prices are set in the concession agreement with the City.

I could be wrong, but where that guy is set up, he's not paying "rent" to anyone - just the bi-annual permit fees and the inevitable summonses issued by the health department. That's how the City monetizes most carts, apart from the Parks & Public Spaces concessions.

I had a hot dog cart in 1988-89. Parked it on 47th and Park Avenue. No rent paid to the City. But, maybe the laws have changed for those spots, I'm not sure. Made some money, but it was a grind, especially in the winter. Good experience though.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Shedevils

Ahmed Mohammed selling $30 hot dogs at ground zero.

Al Qaeda has changed their tactics.

Not to mention the fact they aren't allowed to touch pork?

[Socks]

Giving NYC a bad name? Maybe they should look into the food prices at say... MSG?

Or maybe the price of parking!

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Socks

Giving NYC a bad name? Maybe they should look into the food prices at say... MSG?

Or maybe the price of parking!

[Cash4Members]

Waoo...that guy rips off people badly

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

and i'm sure you believe it too

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/ny...-dog.html?_r=0

So you quote the price of a hot dog stand in the busiest location in New York as your proof that stands go for 250,000?

Did you even read the article you posted?

It says "In fact, the 20 highest license fees, each exceeding $100,000, are all for Central Park carts."



How many hotdog stands do you think are in new york? and you believe this guys location is worth 250k/year?

[sonofsam]

"Vendors on city streets (as opposed to outside park areas) don't have to pay rent for specific spots; their only real estate expense is the cart permit the city requires them to buy. Theoretically, that'll put you back just $200 a year"

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/ny...-dog.html?_r=0

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

and i'm sure you believe it too

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/ny...-dog.html?_r=0

Any vendors in NY not named Mastafa or Achmed?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by adultchatpay

If it taste good, so be it.

Yeah, who cares about cheating, scamming.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by sonofsam

So you quote the price of a hot dog stand in the busiest location in New York as your proof that stands go for 250,000?

Did you even read the article you posted?

It says "In fact, the 20 highest license fees, each exceeding $100,000, are all for Central Park carts."



How many hotdog stands do you think are in new york? and you believe this guys location is worth 250k/year?

hey dickhead, you're trying to gotcha me for making a casual post relevant to the topic?

i mean really? that's all you got? dumbfuck.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i've read horror stories about the price of the permit to sell hot dogs there. like $25,000/month if i recollect.

that's my comment you're going after.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by sonofsam

So you quote the price of a hot dog stand in the busiest location in New York as your proof that stands go for 250,000?

Did you even read the article you posted?

It says "In fact, the 20 highest license fees, each exceeding $100,000, are all for Central Park carts."



How many hotdog stands do you think are in new york? and you believe this guys location is worth 250k/year?

dickhead, i said i've read horror stories about the price of a permit in nyc and posted one of the articles.

trying to gotcha me over that comment? you really do get butthurt big time. no wonder the butthurt lingers with you after Aaron M and baddog bitchslapped the living fucking shit out of you.


dumbfuck.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Yeah, who cares about cheating, scamming.

How is he cheating, or scamming? It's his business, he can charge whatever he wants to. If you don't want to do business with him, you are free not to. No one is, or should be, holding a gun to anyone's head.

It's called freedom of choice and freedom of association. If you want to charge people $1000 for a hotdog, you are free to make that choice, and if people want to pay that, or not, they are free to make THAT choice!

I will never understand people's wish to take away their neighbors freedom of choice and to even limit their own freedom of choice. What is so scary to people about freedom?






.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Those prices are for carts that are in public parks or in front of museums. They're technically concessions that different colored carts, with the Parks Dept. logo on them. The price is the right to run the concession for a specific amount of time. I believe their prices are set in the concession agreement with the City.

I could be wrong, but where that guy is set up, he's not paying "rent" to anyone - just the bi-annual permit fees and the inevitable summonses issued by the health department. That's how the City monetizes most carts, apart from the Parks & Public Spaces concessions.

I had a hot dog cart in 1988-89. Parked it on 47th and Park Avenue. No rent paid to the City. But, maybe the laws have changed for those spots, I'm not sure. Made some money, but it was a grind, especially in the winter. Good experience though.

that's fine. as i said, i simply recollected reading horror stories about the price of a hot dog cart permit in nyc and added to the thread with a comment reflecting that and a link to one of those articles.

and yes, a lot has changed since 1988.

[spads]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

How is he cheating, or scamming? It's his business, he can charge whatever he wants to. If you don't want to do business with him, you are free not to. No one is, or should be, holding a gun to anyone's head.

It's called freedom of choice and freedom of association. If you want to charge people $1000 for a hotdog, you are free to make that choice, and if people want to pay that, or not, they are free to make THAT choice!

I will never understand people's wish to take away their neighbors freedom of choice and to even limit their own freedom of choice. What is so scary to people about freedom?






.

If he's not posting the prices, changing them depending on the person, and then pretending not to speak English when confronted, its not about freedom. This guy is a straight up scammer.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Not to mention the fact they aren't allowed to touch pork?

They are safe on that one then as there is no porn in them.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

They should just make a new rule about posting prices, then if the vendors don't have a posted price the city could give the a fine or take away their permit to sell.

They mention that in the video. There is already such a rule.

[PornDiscounts-V]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

was thinking about this in a way recently, if the terrorists were smart, instead of attacking AMerica, they would flood us with muslims and upset the system. like what they are doing in France and Britain

You haven't been to Detroit. Which, BTW, claimed bankruptcy.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by vvvvv

You haven't been to Detroit. Which, BTW, claimed bankruptcy.

shit! that explains a lot.

[spads]

Originally Posted by vvvvv

You haven't been to Detroit. Which, BTW, claimed bankruptcy.

Detroit was fucked way before Muslims started moving in. Also most of them live out in the suburbs and are actually doing pretty well.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

nothing like a bacon wrapped street dog!

Yup, specially after a hard night of partying

[JFK]

Originally Posted by spads

If he's not posting the prices, changing them depending on the person, and then pretending not to speak English when confronted, its not about freedom. This guy is a straight up scammer.

Agreed

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

How is he cheating, or scamming? It's his business, he can charge whatever he wants to. If you don't want to do business with him, you are free not to. No one is, or should be, holding a gun to anyone's head.

It's called freedom of choice and freedom of association. If you want to charge people $1000 for a hotdog, you are free to make that choice, and if people want to pay that, or not, they are free to make THAT choice!

I will never understand people's wish to take away their neighbors freedom of choice and to even limit their own freedom of choice. What is so scary to people about freedom?

.

The problem is not how much he charges for his hot dogs. The problem is that he does not post his prices as required by law. So tourists are suckered into buying a hot dog with a reasonable belief that it will only cost maybe $5 or $8 max.

[kazbalah]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

hey dickhead, you're trying to gotcha me for making a casual post relevant to the topic?

i mean really? that's all you got? dumbfuck.



that's my comment you're going after.

Comment to GFY style arguments in about 5-6 posts.. not a bad effort..

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

How is he cheating, or scamming? It's his business, he can charge whatever he wants to. If you don't want to do business with him, you are free not to. No one is, or should be, holding a gun to anyone's head.

It's called freedom of choice and freedom of association. If you want to charge people $1000 for a hotdog, you are free to make that choice, and if people want to pay that, or not, they are free to make THAT choice!

I will never understand people's wish to take away their neighbors freedom of choice and to even limit their own freedom of choice. What is so scary to people about freedom?
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Not to pile on, he also cheated by telling his boss, the actual owner of the cart, that he was selling hot dogs for $2.00. He accrued fines and lost the guys customer base. So that's my definition of a scammer.

$30 hot dog man gets fired | New York Post

You are right though - he can charge whatever he wants as long as it's posted (which it wasn't in the case). I'm a big believer in charging what the market will bear. Your customer base will let you know whether your prices are sustainable or not.

Word to the wise for tourists: No real New Yorker patronizes a street vendor with no price list

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Ahmed Mohammed

fitting name

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Not to mention the fact they aren't allowed to touch pork?

Sabrett is the most popular "dirty water" dog in NYC. They're all beef.

[MetaMan]

He should be deported. Same goes for his family.