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Old 05-21-2015, 01:56 PM   #1
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$30 Hot Dog Price in New York at hot dog vendor

Fights Break Out Over $30 Hot Dog Price at Stand Near Ground Zero: Officials | NBC New York

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i've read horror stories about the price of the permit to sell hot dogs there. like $25,000/month if i recollect.
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Ahmed Mohammed selling $30 hot dogs at ground zero.

Al Qaeda has changed their tactics.
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Would you buy a hot dog at ground zero from a guy named Ahmed Mohammed? Think about that ...
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Ahmed Mohammed selling $30 hot dogs at ground zero.

Al Qaeda has changed their tactics.


was thinking about this in a way recently, if the terrorists were smart, instead of attacking AMerica, they would flood us with muslims and upset the system. like what they are doing in France and Britain
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i've read horror stories about the price of the permit to sell hot dogs there. like $25,000/month if i recollect.
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They should just make a new rule about posting prices, then if the vendors don't have a posted price the city could give the a fine or take away their permit to sell.
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They should just make a new rule about posting prices, then if the vendors don't have a posted price the city could give the a fine or take away their permit to sell.
NYC already has a rule that says vendors must post prices.
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Those prices are for carts that are in public parks or in front of museums. They're technically concessions that different colored carts, with the Parks Dept. logo on them. The price is the right to run the concession for a specific amount of time. I believe their prices are set in the concession agreement with the City.

I could be wrong, but where that guy is set up, he's not paying "rent" to anyone - just the bi-annual permit fees and the inevitable summonses issued by the health department. That's how the City monetizes most carts, apart from the Parks & Public Spaces concessions.

I had a hot dog cart in 1988-89. Parked it on 47th and Park Avenue. No rent paid to the City. But, maybe the laws have changed for those spots, I'm not sure. Made some money, but it was a grind, especially in the winter. Good experience though.
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Al Qaeda has changed their tactics.
Not to mention the fact they aren't allowed to touch pork?
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Giving NYC a bad name? Maybe they should look into the food prices at say... MSG?

Or maybe the price of parking!
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Giving NYC a bad name? Maybe they should look into the food prices at say... MSG?

Or maybe the price of parking!
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So you quote the price of a hot dog stand in the busiest location in New York as your proof that stands go for 250,000?

Did you even read the article you posted?

It says "In fact, the 20 highest license fees, each exceeding $100,000, are all for Central Park carts."



How many hotdog stands do you think are in new york? and you believe this guys location is worth 250k/year?
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"Vendors on city streets (as opposed to outside park areas) don't have to pay rent for specific spots; their only real estate expense is the cart permit the city requires them to buy. Theoretically, that'll put you back just $200 a year"

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So you quote the price of a hot dog stand in the busiest location in New York as your proof that stands go for 250,000?

Did you even read the article you posted?

It says "In fact, the 20 highest license fees, each exceeding $100,000, are all for Central Park carts."



How many hotdog stands do you think are in new york? and you believe this guys location is worth 250k/year?

hey dickhead, you're trying to gotcha me for making a casual post relevant to the topic?

i mean really? that's all you got? dumbfuck.

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i've read horror stories about the price of the permit to sell hot dogs there. like $25,000/month if i recollect.
that's my comment you're going after.
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So you quote the price of a hot dog stand in the busiest location in New York as your proof that stands go for 250,000?

Did you even read the article you posted?

It says "In fact, the 20 highest license fees, each exceeding $100,000, are all for Central Park carts."



How many hotdog stands do you think are in new york? and you believe this guys location is worth 250k/year?
dickhead, i said i've read horror stories about the price of a permit in nyc and posted one of the articles.

trying to gotcha me over that comment? you really do get butthurt big time. no wonder the butthurt lingers with you after Aaron M and baddog bitchslapped the living fucking shit out of you.


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Yeah, who cares about cheating, scamming.
How is he cheating, or scamming? It's his business, he can charge whatever he wants to. If you don't want to do business with him, you are free not to. No one is, or should be, holding a gun to anyone's head.

It's called freedom of choice and freedom of association. If you want to charge people $1000 for a hotdog, you are free to make that choice, and if people want to pay that, or not, they are free to make THAT choice!

I will never understand people's wish to take away their neighbors freedom of choice and to even limit their own freedom of choice. What is so scary to people about freedom?






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Those prices are for carts that are in public parks or in front of museums. They're technically concessions that different colored carts, with the Parks Dept. logo on them. The price is the right to run the concession for a specific amount of time. I believe their prices are set in the concession agreement with the City.

I could be wrong, but where that guy is set up, he's not paying "rent" to anyone - just the bi-annual permit fees and the inevitable summonses issued by the health department. That's how the City monetizes most carts, apart from the Parks & Public Spaces concessions.

I had a hot dog cart in 1988-89. Parked it on 47th and Park Avenue. No rent paid to the City. But, maybe the laws have changed for those spots, I'm not sure. Made some money, but it was a grind, especially in the winter. Good experience though.
that's fine. as i said, i simply recollected reading horror stories about the price of a hot dog cart permit in nyc and added to the thread with a comment reflecting that and a link to one of those articles.

and yes, a lot has changed since 1988.
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How is he cheating, or scamming? It's his business, he can charge whatever he wants to. If you don't want to do business with him, you are free not to. No one is, or should be, holding a gun to anyone's head.

It's called freedom of choice and freedom of association. If you want to charge people $1000 for a hotdog, you are free to make that choice, and if people want to pay that, or not, they are free to make THAT choice!

I will never understand people's wish to take away their neighbors freedom of choice and to even limit their own freedom of choice. What is so scary to people about freedom?






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If he's not posting the prices, changing them depending on the person, and then pretending not to speak English when confronted, its not about freedom. This guy is a straight up scammer.
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They mention that in the video. There is already such a rule.
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You haven't been to Detroit. Which, BTW, claimed bankruptcy.
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You haven't been to Detroit. Which, BTW, claimed bankruptcy.
shit! that explains a lot.
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You haven't been to Detroit. Which, BTW, claimed bankruptcy.
Detroit was fucked way before Muslims started moving in. Also most of them live out in the suburbs and are actually doing pretty well.
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If he's not posting the prices, changing them depending on the person, and then pretending not to speak English when confronted, its not about freedom. This guy is a straight up scammer.
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How is he cheating, or scamming? It's his business, he can charge whatever he wants to. If you don't want to do business with him, you are free not to. No one is, or should be, holding a gun to anyone's head.

It's called freedom of choice and freedom of association. If you want to charge people $1000 for a hotdog, you are free to make that choice, and if people want to pay that, or not, they are free to make THAT choice!

I will never understand people's wish to take away their neighbors freedom of choice and to even limit their own freedom of choice. What is so scary to people about freedom?

.

The problem is not how much he charges for his hot dogs. The problem is that he does not post his prices as required by law. So tourists are suckered into buying a hot dog with a reasonable belief that it will only cost maybe $5 or $8 max.
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hey dickhead, you're trying to gotcha me for making a casual post relevant to the topic?

i mean really? that's all you got? dumbfuck.



that's my comment you're going after.
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How is he cheating, or scamming? It's his business, he can charge whatever he wants to. If you don't want to do business with him, you are free not to. No one is, or should be, holding a gun to anyone's head.

It's called freedom of choice and freedom of association. If you want to charge people $1000 for a hotdog, you are free to make that choice, and if people want to pay that, or not, they are free to make THAT choice!

I will never understand people's wish to take away their neighbors freedom of choice and to even limit their own freedom of choice. What is so scary to people about freedom?
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Not to pile on, he also cheated by telling his boss, the actual owner of the cart, that he was selling hot dogs for $2.00. He accrued fines and lost the guys customer base. So that's my definition of a scammer.

$30 hot dog man gets fired | New York Post

You are right though - he can charge whatever he wants as long as it's posted (which it wasn't in the case). I'm a big believer in charging what the market will bear. Your customer base will let you know whether your prices are sustainable or not.

Word to the wise for tourists: No real New Yorker patronizes a street vendor with no price list
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Sabrett is the most popular "dirty water" dog in NYC. They're all beef.
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