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wehateporn · 10-05-2015, 10:14 AM

Antidepressant Seroxat under scrutiny as firm pays out $6.4m

Thousands of people in the UK and around the world could be physically hooked on the antidepressant drug Seroxat, the British sister of Prozac, without knowing it, according to a psychiatrist who was allowed access to the archives of its manufacturers, GlaxoSmithKline.

David Healy, director of the North Wales department of psychological medicine and the UK's foremost expert in antidepressants, found studies in archives in Harlow, Essex, which show that the company, then SmithKline Beecham, realised in the 80s that healthy volunteers were suffering withdrawal symptoms when they stopped taking the drug after only a couple of weeks.

Yet the company has failed to warn patients or doctors, he says, and it has argued that people suffering problems when they stop taking the drug have suffered a recurrence of depression and need to go back on the medication.

Warnings of physical dependency follow the increasing credence given to allegations that the Prozac class of drugs can cause a small minority of people to become violent and kill themselves or others.

Last week a jury in the US ordered GlaxoSmithKline to pay $6.4m (£4.6m) to the family of Donald Schell, 60, who killed his wife, daughter and granddaughter then himself after two days on Seroxat. Two weeks earlier, an Australian judge ruled that another drug in the class, Sertraline, caused David Hawkins to murder his wife and attempt to kill himself.

Dr Healy was given access to the archives during the Schell case and found what he considered alarming evidence of withdrawal problems. One study showed that as many as 85% of the volunteers - who were company employees with no hint of depression - suffered agitation, abnormal dreams, insomnia and other adverse effects.

On average about half the volunteers taking part in a group of studies specifically designed to detect withdrawal problems suffered symptoms which suggest they had become physically dependent on the drug.

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EddyTheDog · 10-05-2015, 10:33 AM

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...and it has argued that people suffering problems when they stop taking the drug have suffered a recurrence of depression and need to go back on the medication...

That is such a ridiculous comment it's funny...

blackmonsters · 10-05-2015, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

That is such a ridiculous comment it's funny...

Not exactly.

Serotonin depletion occurs after quitting these types of drugs and taking the drugs again counters this condition.

It's not wise to quit anti-depressants without some type of serotonin management routine.

wehateporn · 10-05-2015, 11:05 AM

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EddyTheDog · 10-05-2015, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Not exactly.

Serotonin depletion occurs after quitting these types of drugs and taking the drugs again counters this condition.

It's not wise to quit anti-depressants without some type of serotonin management routine.

SSRI's do not cure depression - They help manage the symptoms - Of course serotonin levels will drop after stopping SSRI's...

I have been taking them for 25 years - I was on Seroxat for 5 of them - Now I am on Venlafaxine - They work well for my BiPolar - I came off them a few years ago for a few weeks - Ended up sectioned on a locked ward for a month - Not because of the Venlafaxine, but because I stopped taking them my symptoms returned.....

As I said they are not meant to be a cure - The same way painkillers don't cure...

blackmonsters · 10-05-2015, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

SSRI's do not cure depression - They help manage the symptoms - Of course serotonin levels will drop after stopping SSRI's...

I have been taking them for 25 years - I was on Seroxat for 5 of them - Now I am on Venlafaxine - They work well for my BiPolar - I came off them a few years ago for a few weeks - Ended up sectioned on a locked ward for a month - Not because of the Venlafaxine, but because I stopped taking them my symptoms returned.....

As I said they are not meant to be a cure - The same way painkillers don't cure...

You have reversed your opinion because now you agree with what you quoted.

wehateporn · 10-05-2015, 11:27 AM

EddyTheDog · 10-05-2015, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

You have reversed your opinion because now you agree with what you quoted.

You misunderstood - Obviously that is what will happen - They are inferring that it is a problem with Seroxat, using it to make their case against it...

That's why it is ridiculous.....

MiamiBoyz · 10-05-2015, 11:39 AM

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