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Old 10-05-2015, 12:53 AM   #1
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Hi Guys,


I'm quite new here and I will go and fuck off in a few seconds..

But first give me 2 seconds to quickly introduce me and our new brand.

I currently live in Amsterdam ... and i'm here to support our partners with their payments.

CardBilling is our latest product.. we offer a 5% flat rate!

It is Something that has never been done before!!!

So if you want to talk to me please find me on skype (verotel-mike) or mail!

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The 5% Transaction Rate is not a promotion; it's a rate that is here to stay!!!
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5% sounds amazing!
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5% sounds amazing!
And welcome Mikey!!!
Thanks man! You need any additional info per mail? just let me know
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Welcome, but where is Jason Collins??.... And the same question how long before you work with PayPal as Epoch does ???
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Is that 5% for high risk?
Do you suppose cascading with ccbill, and will the transactions be paid to affiliates on ccbill?
Please answer here and if ONLY yes to all the above email me.
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Welcome, but where is Jason Collins??.... And the same question how long before you work with PayPal as Epoch does ???
Jason is sitting here.. right next to me

We are studying all the possibilities right now.. But it's too early to give you feedback on this.
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Jason is sitting here.. right next to me

We are studying all the possibilities right now.. But it's too early to give you feedback on this.
Welcome again and say hi to Jason. I will wait I am patient

And a supplementary question : How is the new "revolution" different then what you are doing ( and well ) already for years.
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Is that 5% for high risk?
Do you suppose cascading with ccbill, and will the transactions be paid to affiliates on ccbill?
Please answer here and if ONLY yes to all the above email me.
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hey alex,

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Welcome, but where is Jason Collins??.... And the same question how long before you work with PayPal as Epoch does ???
I'm still around! We are expanding the team to get even more aggressive in the market!

Didn't we cover PayPal already? We would love to have it and as soon as they want to make the API available for other IPSP's we are there. Time is already scheduled with the DEV team, so WE are ready to go - just waiting on PayPal!!!
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And a supplementary question : How is the new "revolution" different then what you are doing ( and well ) already for years.
The revolution we are starting is by offering more competitive pricing than the typical 15% (or more) that everyone else is charging as a default rate. By doing only credit cards with CardBilling, we are able to focus solely on cards and offer a more competitive rate. If you are looking for more payment options (Direct Debit/ACH EU/US & Bitcoin), Verotel may be a more suitable option.

My sig refers to switching to Verotel and your first 90 days is 5%. I accept emails for those that would like to know what the rates look outside of 90 days.
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I'm still around! We are expanding the team to get even more aggressive in the market!

Didn't we cover PayPal already? We would love to have it and as soon as they want to make the API available for other IPSP's we are there. Time is already scheduled with the DEV team, so WE are ready to go - just waiting on PayPal!!!


The revolution we are starting is by offering more competitive pricing than the typical 15% (or more) that everyone else is charging as a default rate. By doing only credit cards with CardBilling, we are able to focus solely on cards and offer a more competitive rate. If you are looking for more payment options (Direct Debit/ACH EU/US & Bitcoin), Verotel may be a more suitable option.

My sig refers to switching to Verotel and your first 90 days is 5%. I accept emails for those that would like to know what the rates look outside of 90 days.
I guess i will have my guys ask you to drop my rates
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You better re check that !!!!
I agree this looks a bit confusing.. However I'm talking about the CardBilling product and my colleague Jason is mentioning the Verotel services.

They are similar products but with different rates and services so in this way we can provide products for basically everyone within this industry.
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Sure, why not? CardBilling is not only for new customers.

There are some differences here that I want to make sure that everyone is aware of before making the switch. I would like to avoid the, "You didn't tell me this before switching" conversation.

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  • Payment methods: Credit Cards, Direct Debit and Bitcoin
  • Setup Fee: None
  • Annual Fee: None *Previous processing history required with volume greater than EUR 100/week.
  • Chargeback fee: None
  • Currencies:
  1. On the end-user side we accept 64 currencies. So everyone can pay in their local currency.
  2. On the merchants side, you can setup ten different currencies (USD, EUR, GBP, AUD, CAD, CHF, DKK, CZK, NOK, & SEK). For example, you can set up your membership price in USD (and/or in any of the other 10 currencies), and directly sell in USD. Once a person comes that wants to pay from South Africa, we immediately convert the USD rate into ZAR and he will only see the ZAR amount on his statement.
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  • Payment methods: Only credit cards
  • Setup fee: USD $500 (One-time)
  • Annual fee: USD $500
  • Chargeback fee: USD $45.00
  • Currencies: One Currency - The order page will still convert your prices in up to 64 different world currencies depending on your users location so that everyone pays locally.
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Sure, why not? CardBilling is not only for new customers.

There are some differences here that I want to make sure that everyone is aware of before making the switch. I would like to avoid the, "You didn't tell me this before switching" conversation.

Verotel Premium
  • Rate: Starts at 14% and goes down depending on volume (All-inclusive rate - no additional fees for transactions, refunds, declines or chargebacks)
  • Payment methods: Credit Cards, Direct Debit and Bitcoin
  • Setup Fee: None
  • Annual Fee: None *Previous processing history required with volume greater than EUR 100/week.
  • Chargeback fee: None
  • Currencies:
  1. On the end-user side we accept 64 currencies. So everyone can pay in their local currency.
  2. On the merchants side, you can setup ten different currencies (USD, EUR, GBP, AUD, CAD, CHF, DKK, CZK, NOK, & SEK). For example, you can set up your membership price in USD (and/or in any of the other 10 currencies), and directly sell in USD. Once a person comes that wants to pay from South Africa, we immediately convert the USD rate into ZAR and he will only see the ZAR amount on his statement.
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  • Payment methods: Only credit cards
  • Setup fee: USD $500 (One-time)
  • Annual fee: USD $500
  • Chargeback fee: USD $45.00
  • Currencies: One Currency - The order page will still convert your prices in up to 64 different world currencies depending on your users location so that everyone pays locally.
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How is this better than Verotel Pro
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How is this better than Verotel Pro
Verotel Pro is basically being replaced with CardBilling and Verotel Pro will eventually be phased out for new signups.
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Verotel Pro is basically being replaced with CardBilling and Verotel Pro will eventually be phased out for new signups.
Anyway to just migrate Verotel pro account over to CardBilling
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Anyway to just migrate Verotel pro account over to CardBilling
You can signup for a CardBilling account if you like
https://controlcenter.billing.credit...ister-merchant

Unfortunately I cannot migrate the accounts over.
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Unfortunately I cannot migrate the accounts over.
Yeah but I don't see the benefit of paying another $1000, to be processed by virtually the same company?
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Are there yearly fees for VISA and MAstercard?
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Old 10-10-2015, 04:11 AM   #46
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Too bad that, in my experience, Verotel do not pay. Your mileage may vary.
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Old 10-12-2015, 01:28 AM   #47
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Too bad that, in my experience, Verotel do not pay. Your mileage may vary.
Your issue was isolated and that is really unfortunate that you had a bad experience.
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Yeah but I don't see the benefit of paying another $1000, to be processed by virtually the same company?
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:04 AM   #49
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Your issue was isolated and that is really unfortunate that you had a bad experience.

Yes, it is unfortunate that Verotel chose not to pay me and to be absurdly unprofessional. Whatever the "issue" was, it was with Verotel, not my company.

In my experience, people like Verotel who don't pay what they owe one person are people who feel paying what they owe is optional. In my experience, people like Verotel who behave in an extremely unprofessional manner once are extremely unprofessional more than once.

While others' mileage may vary, why should anyone think my experience is isolated?
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:23 AM   #50
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Verotel is terrible. I can't transfer a site to another person in 2 months

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