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CurrentlySober · 10-08-2015, 01:18 PM

If No results have been returned?

I can understand it if you are trying to search over and over, but if you get zero results, why the delay?

BTW, I'm not really complaining by writing this post - Just killing 90 seconds lol

MrBottomTooth · 10-08-2015, 01:37 PM

I would imagine the search is just as taxing on the server regardless of whether it returned any results. Back when this site was hopping I remember them implementing it to help ease the load on the server.

CurrentlySober · 10-08-2015, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

I would imagine the search is just as taxing on the server regardless of whether it returned any results. Back when this site was hopping I remember them implementing it to help ease the load on the server.

Possibly, and I'm in no way a server expert, but I'd assume that a successful search that returns say 70 plus results across all sub forums and takes a good few seconds to appear on screen, would be more taxing on the server than a search that just comes back with an instantaneous 'No Results'

But I dunno - It just annoyed me

Rochard · 10-08-2015, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Possibly, and I'm in no way a server expert, but I'd assume that a successful search that returns say 70 plus results across all sub forums and takes a good few seconds to appear on screen, would be more taxing on the server than a search that just comes back with an instantaneous 'No Results'

But I dunno - It just annoyed me

If you spend three minutes looking for your car keys, it doesn't matter if you found them or not, you've still spent three minutes searching.

It's not much different with a server. You tell the server to do the search, and it puts a load on the server - no matter if it finds results or not.

clickity click · 10-08-2015, 02:54 PM

cheap ass website worrying about 10's of people running searches a day.

dcortez · 10-08-2015, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by clickity click

cheap ass website worrying about 10's of people running searches a day.

Not fair. Try paying for the hosting required to provide this forum.

It's usually not about how many people do searches each day. It's how many people do searches at the same time.

-Dino

Adraco · 10-08-2015, 03:55 PM

There are roughly 1.1 million threads posted here and somewhere around 19.5-20.0 million posts in those threads. It will take some time to search through all that and no matter how good your anti-bot system ever gets, a hard time limit will make even a bot or scraper wait.

woj · 10-08-2015, 04:36 PM

90 second wait time makes this completely useless... you search for something, don't quite find what you were looking for, and so have to wait 90 seconds to try again? pretty damn ridiculous...

JamesAB · 10-08-2015, 04:49 PM

Due to the software structure that forums like this use, searches are the most database intensive tasks. Without a delay, bots or people running malicious code could hammer the forum with thousands of requests a second and bring the database to a crawl. That could (in theory) make the forum unstable or unusable for the average member.

That being said, a 20 second delay may provide the same function as a deterrent from abusive search hits and be more palatable to your average member who is just looking for useful information here.

baddog · 10-08-2015, 05:02 PM

Because there used to be lots of people posting here ... and the bots.

EddyTheDog · 10-08-2015, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

If you spend three minutes looking for your car keys, it doesn't matter if you found them or not, you've still spent three minutes searching.

It's not much different with a server. You tell the server to do the search, and it puts a load on the server - no matter if it finds results or not.

Good answer

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Forkbeard · 10-08-2015, 09:05 PM

My guess is that the 90 second delay was necessary when this site was really hoppin' back in 2007 or so. I'd be very surprised if the goal of the delay could not be met with a shorter delay today.

Mr Pheer · 10-08-2015, 09:10 PM

If you learn how to use google, you can search the site without any delays.

https://www.google.com/search?q=site...tly+sober+shit

just a punk · 10-09-2015, 12:43 AM

I tell you a secret. This works much better than the board search button:

google.com/search?q=site:gfy.com+keyword

and you don't have to wait ;)

k0nr4d · 10-09-2015, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

If No results have been returned?

I can understand it if you are trying to search over and over, but if you get zero results, why the delay?

BTW, I'm not really complaining by writing this post - Just killing 90 seconds lol

Fulltext search on a db with 30 million posts will take a long time, even with zero results... Without the throttle (or some kinda captcha between searches) someone could kill the site by searching with a bot.

CurrentlySober · 10-09-2015, 01:01 AM

Well wouldn't it make more sense for GFY to actually use google for its search then? Actually make the search function use google for its results and thus make the site site cheaper and faster to run by eliminating the 'on site' search all together?

k0nr4d · 10-09-2015, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Well wouldn't it make more sense for GFY to actually use google for its search then? Actually make the search function use google for its results and thus make the site site cheaper and faster to run by eliminating the 'on site' search all together?

No because google won't let you search by user, with a date range, etc.

PornSEO · 10-09-2015, 01:21 AM

To reduce CPU usage...

Mr Pheer · 10-09-2015, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I tell you a secret. This works much better than the board search button:

google.com/search?q=site:gfy.com+keyword

and you don't have to wait ;)

fucking seriously?

PornDiscounts-V · 10-09-2015, 01:58 AM

<== FUCKING NAME DROPPER!!!

(We'll get to more about that later in the post)

Because of the bots we all used to use back in the day.

You see, I might have had a bot (HYPOTHETICALLY!!!) and said bot might have searched for posts and then posted something about said post.

For instance. My bot (HYPOTHETICALLY!!!) would have searched the forum for every time somebody created a thread with:
spam + host
best + host
good + host
anybody + host

It would have searched the forums every 5 minutes and when it found somebody asking about hosting it would have (HYPOTHETICALLY!!!) replied with why I think Cyberwurx is a great hosting company.

My other bots were (HYPOTHETICALLY!!!) searching for similar threads about dating, webcams and MILF sponsors, among others, and then replying about why my sponsor choice was the best with an affiliate link.

Now multiply this by my (HYPOTHETICALLY!!!) other 25 accounts and then multiply that by 100 other GFY'ers allegedly... allegedly doing this with their 25 accounts (ahem Juicy...) not naming names here!!! Ooops!

Now you have the most taxing thing happening 100 times per minute and it killed the server.

Hope that clears it up for you.

JFK · 10-09-2015, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcortez

Not fair. Try paying for the hosting required to provide this forum.

It's usually not about how many people do searches each day. It's how many people do searches at the same time.

-Dino

SuckOnThis · 10-09-2015, 10:39 AM

If you've ever had a bot attack one of your search scripts you'd see how fast it brings a server to a crawl.

woj · 10-09-2015, 10:58 AM

so just need to add captcha after X searches per day per user/ip? Entering captcha is 100x easier than waiting 90 seconds to try again...

romeo22 · 10-09-2015, 11:10 AM

You knowv This aint goigle

KillerK · 10-09-2015, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

so just need to add captcha after X searches per day per user/ip? Entering captcha is 100x easier than waiting 90 seconds to try again...

You could use IE with username XXXXXXX and use firefox with YYYYYY and chrome with ZZZZZ then you can search 3 times as fast.

iFriends · 10-09-2015, 01:04 PM

Bogs the mysql server I guess.

10-08-2015, 01:18 PM	#1
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 38,562	Why do we need to wait 90 seconds between searches... If No results have been returned? I can understand it if you are trying to search over and over, but if you get zero results, why the delay? BTW, I'm not really complaining by writing this post - Just killing 90 seconds lol __________________ My AI Handywork... My Dream Gal... XXX 👁️ 👍️ 💩

10-08-2015, 01:37 PM	#2
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10-08-2015, 03:55 PM	#7
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10-08-2015, 04:36 PM	#8
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	90 second wait time makes this completely useless... you search for something, don't quite find what you were looking for, and so have to wait 90 seconds to try again? pretty damn ridiculous... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

10-08-2015, 09:05 PM	#12
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	My guess is that the 90 second delay was necessary when this site was really hoppin' back in 2007 or so. I'd be very surprised if the goal of the delay could not be met with a shorter delay today. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

10-08-2015, 02:54 PM	#5
clickity click So Fecking Bummed Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 3,682	cheap ass website worrying about 10's of people running searches a day.

10-08-2015, 04:49 PM	#9
JamesAB Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 188	Due to the software structure that forums like this use, searches are the most database intensive tasks. Without a delay, bots or people running malicious code could hammer the forum with thousands of requests a second and bring the database to a crawl. That could (in theory) make the forum unstable or unusable for the average member. That being said, a 20 second delay may provide the same function as a deterrent from abusive search hits and be more palatable to your average member who is just looking for useful information here.

10-08-2015, 05:02 PM	#10
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Because there used to be lots of people posting here ... and the bots.

10-08-2015, 09:10 PM	#13
Mr Pheer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 20,885	If you learn how to use google, you can search the site without any delays. https://www.google.com/search?q=site...tly+sober+shit

10-09-2015, 12:43 AM	#14
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,383	I tell you a secret. This works much better than the board search button: google.com/search?q=site:gfy.com+keyword and you don't have to wait ;) __________________ Obey the Cowgod

10-09-2015, 01:01 AM	#16
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 38,562	Well wouldn't it make more sense for GFY to actually use google for its search then? Actually make the search function use google for its results and thus make the site site cheaper and faster to run by eliminating the 'on site' search all together? __________________ My AI Handywork... My Dream Gal... XXX 👁️ 👍️ 💩

10-09-2015, 01:21 AM	#18
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10-09-2015, 01:58 AM	#20
PornDiscounts-V Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: L.A. Posts: 5,744	<== FUCKING NAME DROPPER!!! (We'll get to more about that later in the post) Because of the bots we all used to use back in the day. You see, I might have had a bot (HYPOTHETICALLY!!!) and said bot might have searched for posts and then posted something about said post. For instance. My bot (HYPOTHETICALLY!!!) would have searched the forum for every time somebody created a thread with: spam + host best + host good + host anybody + host It would have searched the forums every 5 minutes and when it found somebody asking about hosting it would have (HYPOTHETICALLY!!!) replied with why I think Cyberwurx is a great hosting company. My other bots were (HYPOTHETICALLY!!!) searching for similar threads about dating, webcams and MILF sponsors, among others, and then replying about why my sponsor choice was the best with an affiliate link. Now multiply this by my (HYPOTHETICALLY!!!) other 25 accounts and then multiply that by 100 other GFY'ers allegedly... allegedly doing this with their 25 accounts (ahem Juicy...) not naming names here!!! Ooops! Now you have the most taxing thing happening 100 times per minute and it killed the server. Hope that clears it up for you. __________________ Blog Posts - Contextual Links - Hardlinks on 600+ Blog Network * Handwritten * 180 C Class IPs * Permanent! * Many Niches! * Bulk Discounts! GFYPosts /at/ J2Media.net

10-09-2015, 10:39 AM	#22
SuckOnThis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my head Posts: 6,844	If you've ever had a bot attack one of your search scripts you'd see how fast it brings a server to a crawl.

10-09-2015, 10:58 AM	#23
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	so just need to add captcha after X searches per day per user/ip? Entering captcha is 100x easier than waiting 90 seconds to try again... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

10-09-2015, 11:10 AM	#24
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