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Old 10-31-2015, 02:42 AM   #1
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Russian jet missing over Egypt

not looking good, an airliner heading to Russia has gone missing just after taking off from SSH with 212 people on board. No other info as yet.

Update: Jet crashed in sinai all on board (224) fear dead .. may all RIP tragic news for a weekend

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Putin strikes again.
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ISIS area - Just to add to the cluster fuck...
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my friend's wife is back from Egypt two day ago.
it is awful!
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Airplane was found hours ago. There are some reports saying that emergency service can hear screams so maybe there are survivors.
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ISIS area - Just to add to the cluster fuck...
You think ISIS had the intel and the ability to shoot that plane down with a rocket launcher (old Stinger?) doubt that

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-- Stinger missiles are effective up to 11,500 feet ... Or, did ISIS shoot a passenger plane down randomly with yet to be seen surface to air missiles?

Or, was it some mechanical failure?

How about a secret CIA/Mossad plot to drive the Russian invaders out of the middle east -- and is there any CT info on Youtube Has ISIS claimed responsibility yet?

The cause determination may take a long time if international agencies are allowed to study the wreckage. At any rate, the people that died in this crash were civilian non-combatants -- my condolences to their families regardless of the cause.
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You think ISIS had the intel and the ability to shoot that plane down with a rocket launcher (old Stinger?) doubt that

-- Stinger missiles are effective up to 11,500 feet ... Or, did ISIS shoot a passenger plane down randomly with yet to be seen surface to air missiles?

Or, was it some mechanical failure?

How about a secret CIA/Mossad plot to drive the Russian invaders out of the middle east -- and is there any CT info on Youtube Has ISIS claimed responsibility yet?

The cause determination may take a long time if international agencies are allowed to study the wreckage. At any rate, the people that died in this crash were civilian non-combatants -- my condolences to their families regardless of the cause.
Of course we can only speculate ATM - However, we can't rule anything out either...

Russia go in and hit ISIS in Syria and then this over ISIS territory - It just brings them into the frame.....

This all sounds a lot like the discussions on here last July - Definite dejavu...
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all died.
the technical problems of the aircraft, is not shot down
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I am sure the families will be pleased to know that their compensation is already being negotiated...
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How very tragic and sad. There is nothing worst then airliner crashes.
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Breaking!

ISIS claims Responsibility...

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If true Putin will go apoplectic.....
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How very tragic and sad. There is nothing worst then airliner crashes.
We are used to think this way. The plane crashes always look scare (this time over 200 people died at once), but in fact car accidents are much more deadly. For example, how many people you knew have died in airliner crashes and how many died driving their cars? Statistics say the one has much more chances to die in the car...
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The black box says it was mechanical problems, nothing to do with ISIS, unless of course, there's a cover up ?
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We are used to think this way. The plane crashes always look scare (this time over 200 people died at once), but in fact car accidents are much more deadly. For example, how many people you knew have died in airliner crashes and how many died driving their cars? Statistics say the one has much more chances to die in the car...
You have a very 'unusual' way of looking at things sometimes...
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What qualifies an airliner crash as "worst"?
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The black box says it was mechanical problems, nothing to do with ISIS, unless of course, there's a cover up ?
There is no way they have analysed the data in the black box already...
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European airlines have not changed their routes through the Sinai, then it is safe. I think.
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We are used to think this way. The plane crashes always look scare (this time over 200 people died at once), but in fact car accidents are much more deadly. For example, how many people you knew have died in airliner crashes and how many died driving their cars? Statistics say the one has much more chances to die in the car...
I've never known anyone to die in a car accident or plane cash, but I understand your point - flying is much safer than driving.

I just don't like flying. Not afraid of it or anything, just "strongly dislike the inconvenience" of it all. I don't like being in such close quarters to someone for so long unless they are Kate Upton. I don't sleep on planes, which doesn't help.
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I've never known anyone to die in a car accident or plane cash, but I understand your point - flying is much safer than driving.
You are a happy one then. For real. I hope this will never happen to anyone in your your life.

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I just don't like flying. Not afraid of it or anything, just "strongly dislike the inconvenience" of it all. I don't like being in such close quarters to someone for so long unless they are Kate Upton. I don't sleep on planes, which doesn't help.
That's an irrational thing we can't to control. There is nothing wrong with it. My sister is afraid of flights during a whole her life (she can't fly w/o 2 tablets of Phenazepam), or my wife who is afraid of a butterfly. Can you imagine a person who has a panic when sees a butterfly? Those do really exist

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You have a very 'unusual' way of looking at things sometimes...
It's called rational way of thinking. Did I say that crash is not a tragedy? I didn't, because it's definitely is a real tragedy. The only thing I wanted to say is that car accidents are much more deadly than airplane crashes. It's like AIDS. People are scared to get infected with HIV and die of it, but in fact they will die of a heart attack or a cancer. If you ask me how many HIV-positive people I meat during my life, the answer will be ZERO. Ask me how many have died of heart-related problems, cancer and car accidents, and I'll say: A LOT.
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It's called rational way of thinking. Did I say that crash is not a tragedy? I didn't, because it's definitely is a real tragedy. The only thing I wanted to say is that car accidents are much more deadly than airplane crashes. It's like AIDS. People are scared to get infected with HIV and die of it, but in fact they will die of a heart attack or a cancer. If you ask me how many HIV-positive people I meat during my life, the answer will be ZERO. Ask me how many have died of heart-related problems, cancer and car accidents, and I'll say: A LOT.
I think it may be a language issue in this case - Plane crashes are more 'DEADLY' than car crashes - However, more people die in car crashes...

In the same way that - at least in the early days - AIDS was more deadly than cancer or heart attacks.....
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There is no way they have analysed the data in the black box already...

It can take weeks if not months for black box data be retrieved.

1 - IISI claim they did it ( possible)
2 - Egypt said it was technical fault ( how they know it was technical fault)

We wait and see , it will not take long before the real cause arise
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The black box says it was mechanical problems, nothing to do with ISIS, unless of course, there's a cover up ?
They didn't get the data that fast... give me a break.
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I think it may be a language issue in this case - Plane crashes are more 'DEADLY' than car crashes - However, more people die in car crashes...
Ok, let it be a "lost in translation" thing.

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In the same way that - at least in the early days - AIDS was more deadly than cancer or heart attacks.....
I can't agree with you here. Heart attacks and cancer kill much more people than AIDS. At least in my country which is considered as a very HIV-infected one according to Wikipedia. We should understand that almost all HIV-positive people here are heroine junkeys. They just don't live more than 3 years, and that's not because of AIDS. They die because of overdose. A normal straight person can get HIV with a chance less than 0.5% even after sex w/o a condom. You have more chances to be killed by an icicle
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Ok, let it be a "lost in translation" thing.



I can't agree with you here. Heart attacks and cancer kill much more people than AIDS. At least in my country which is considered as a very HIV-infected one according to Wikipedia. We should understand that almost all HIV-positive people here are heroine junkeys. They just don't live more than 3 years, and that's not because of AIDS. They die because of overdose. A normal straight person can get HIV with a chance less than 0.5% even after sex w/o a condom. You have more chances to be killed by an icicle
The issue is your definition of deadly - It's wrong...
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O no. This thread is shaping up to be another thread where CyberSEO argues his mastery of broken english.
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The black box says it was mechanical problems, nothing to do with ISIS, unless of course, there's a cover up ?
If it was hit with a missile it would have mechanical problems
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Cairo (CNN)A Russian passenger plane crashed early Saturday in the Sinai Peninsula, killing all 224 people aboard, officials said.
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More dejavu...
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The Egyptian Army has lots of AA cannon and SAM missiles. It is possible that they may have lost control of some in the Sinai to MB or ISIS insurgents that they have been fighting since the military took control from the Muslim Brotherhood government.

Raw AP reports:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015...he-latest.html

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Egyptian authorities say the wreckage of a Russian passenger jet has been found in area where Egyptian forces are fighting an Islamic militant insurgency.

Egyptian security forces have been waging major operations against a burgeoning insurgency in the northern Sinai peninsula, including the city of el-Arish. Egyptian officials say the wreckage was found in the Hassana area south of el-Arish.

The long-restive northern Sinai has seen a spike in attacks targeting security forces since the military overthrow of Islamist President Mohammed Morsi in 2013. An Islamic State affiliate has claimed responsibility for many of the deadly attacks. The Egyptian government has restricted journalists' access to the area.
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Russian investigators are searching the Moscow offices of Metrojet, the company whose chartered plane has crashed in Egypt, killing all 224 people aboard.

Officers of Russia's top investigative body, the Investigative Committee, were also questioning Metrojet employees and doing the same at the St. Petersburg-based Brisco tour agency that had contracted for the flight from the resort of Sharm el-Sheikh to St. Petersburg.

Spokesman Vladimir Markin also said investigators are taking samples of fuel from the airport in Samara where the plane was last fueled.

The plane crashed Saturday morning in a mountainous region of Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, 70 kilometers (44 miles) south of the city of el-Arish, where Egyptian security forces have for years been battling an Islamic militant insurgency.
Well, these are not official Russian reports ...
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Ah, I see.

You mean...like the fear they felt on the Titanic?
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You are a happy one then. For real. I hope this will never happen to anyone in your your life.



That's an irrational thing we can't to control. There is nothing wrong with it. My sister is afraid of flights during a whole her life (she can't fly w/o 2 tablets of Phenazepam), or my wife who is afraid of a butterfly. Can you imagine a person who has a panic when sees a butterfly? Those do really exist



It's called rational way of thinking. Did I say that crash is not a tragedy? I didn't, because it's definitely is a real tragedy. The only thing I wanted to say is that car accidents are much more deadly than airplane crashes. It's like AIDS. People are scared to get infected with HIV and die of it, but in fact they will die of a heart attack or a cancer. If you ask me how many HIV-positive people I meat during my life, the answer will be ZERO. Ask me how many have died of heart-related problems, cancer and car accidents, and I'll say: A LOT.
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Hopefully it were the Syrian freedom fighters.

But most likely it were drunk russian Ivans pilots crashing the plane.
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But most likely it were drunk russian Ivans pilots crashing the plane.








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Old 10-31-2015, 01:32 PM   #44
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Hopefully it were the Syrian freedom fighters.

But most likely it were drunk russian Ivans pilots crashing the plane.
If Syrian freedom fighters is really behind this attack, we can say bye-bye to them all
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Old 10-31-2015, 01:52 PM   #45
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If Syrian freedom fighters is really behind this attack, we can say bye-bye to them all
it is not a bomb with condom
Investigators flew(go) today to Sinai
need to wait for know reason accident
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Old 10-31-2015, 02:30 PM   #47
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I would not rule out mechanical sabotage until the investigation is completed
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