they do pay, always, still they have some organizational problems
 

I believe they are honest about this Operation Choke Point. I've had some e-mail contact with Crystal about this. She told me that they just opened new accounts at a bank called Wells Fargo and are doing their best to fix everything.

Usually I get paid by check, but today I received $x,xxx.xx through PayPal, this also suggests their accounts indeed are frozen.

There have been delays sometimes, which can be frustrating, I have experienced this too. Still, I have always received every penny, and that is over 40k now.

They DO PAY. They really do. Crystal has always been very kind and helpful when I request a payment. :warning

After all, I´d like to give NaughtyRevenue's crew the advice to fix some important things:
1. Set clear payout days and stick to these (pay on time!), don't let people chase their money.
2. Add extra payment methods. Either Paxum or Wire is a must. Checks are not very popular these days, too much of a headache.
3. I've noticed that sometimes a join switches to Rev Share (60%) on a sale, which gives only $1.05 for a trial join. I've been told this is because the sale can't recur (e.g. someone paid with a gift card). But NaughtyRevenue clearly states "Earn $30 on every sale you send to us. This applies to all sales including trial sales!" (See naughtyrevenue-com/external-php?page=programs).

Their VR program converts absolutely fantastic. Please fix whatever is holding up, you're one of my fav converting programs.

might be a different situation than NA's but in the aftermath of the Pacnet/Chexx situation the US bank I used for my business closed my account.

It's kind of funny in retrospect (it takes a special sort to get dumped by a bank, my boys still tease me about that) but at the time it was pretty devastating. just like, boom, boom, boom, one fucking thing after another after the ofac sanctions were levied.

basically I got a bank letter certified/registered/whatever mail stating that they would be closing my account on xx day. the reason given was that my account "may not fit within our requirements" and "legal requirements".

they gave me plenty of time (41 days) to switch things over so no complaints there, and were very respectful and communicative with me. awful situation but was very well treated.

initially the bank froze 9k of my cash in that account (I'm not entirely clear if that was at the behest of the gov or just a bank decision, it was made clear to me that both were involved) but that was resolved fairly quickly (weeks, not months) and on the day my account was closed they mailed me a check for the remaining balance. the check cleared

I'm happier with my new bank now anyways but not a fun process.

anyways, figure the process is probably fairly similar under other sorts of situations. they won't just close your account next day but they can absolutely hold your money if they want

just clarifying my previous post, have been away for a week or so...

the check i got was deposited and then my bank sent it back as NSF. I contacted Mike over at NA and he forwarded it onto Crystal who told me they got their BofA account shutdown by Operation Chokepoint as others mentioned before. Crystal emailed me and told me they are going to Wells and will reissue checks.

I honestly don't know if Wells will treat them much better as an adult company, since Wells is more conservative then BofA but will see. My $110 payment turned into $150 or so with NSF fees, so really hope NA offers Paxum for affiliates. Seems like most adult companies offer it, so offering it would help both parties right? I get the costs involved in it, but seems a lot less time consuming than issuing paper checks all the time.

And the fact that Wells is in deep shit at the moment. I'd seek alternatives to WF.

If I could offer you some advice. PayPal has been working effortlessly for us with NA. They seem to pay the fees as well. Removes bank issues because whatever they are dealing with, they always have a bank account that works to some extent.

BTW, I switched my personal banking to Wells Fargo because BofA didn't like my adult checks about two years ago. Since then, because of Wells scandal, they've actually told me, hey, we are way more open to dealing with adult companies because we kind of got our assess handed to us with the opening accounts thing and we want to do two things, increase deposits, and tell the USA fuck off.

So... Take what you will. We have been getting paid via PayPal quite well from NA once we switched from checks.

Great post.

I agree with most of it. They really need to get their accounting together. Crystal is doing well but I think she needs more support. It looks she is the only one doing all the work.

We still did not receive our money by the end of the year. Request was made mid-December... and we were supposed to receive checks by Fedex twice, nothing happened.

Now this Bank switching thing... gosh. Seems like we won't see these funds until another 2-3 weeks! It's about $3500 now. Last payment was on November 7th.

I'm also quote tired to run after my money. I mean, this should NOT happen. It's not everybody that can spend on advertising and wait 2 months to get paid.

NA must bank over 200k per day, I can't still figure out why a company that size can't automate the payments and have more than just 1 person on accounting.

Also checks are getting old. It takes another 21 business days to cash them in Canada.

So YES to Wire, Paxum, Paypal... and scheduled payments! :)

You can switch to PayPal. Ask accounting and you will get your money much quicker.

I don't know where you bank, but I have been with Canada Trust (now TD Canada Trust) for decades and my cheques are deposited and the money available to me immediately. The only time there is a hold placed on a cheque is when I request they do it (I ask them put a hold on cheques that look "odd" to me, or from a company I've not dealt with previously).

But a 21 day hold is not the norm for everyone, I can assure you.

Insofar as this thread is concerned, reaching out to Mike, Joe, Scotty or Crystal has always been received positively for me, and although some payments took some time, they've always paid up. I hope their new banking arrangements serve them well. It has to be frustrating for them as well having to deal with this sort of intervention and interference with their business relationships, including with those of their affiliates.

Yeah it might be different from Canadian banks to banks. I tried lefting this a few years ago but they refused since it took them a lot more business days to cash versus CAD checks. But, at that time most of our sponsors income was paid by Check so we had large sums deposits each time.

Now this is no more the case as most (if not all except NA hehe) pay us by Wire/Paxum.

i like you

250 people paid

just to clarify for those saying switch to Paypal, i've been fucked by Paypal every which way possible, and trusting them with adult related payments would be the last thing i'd do. I agree on offering Paxum, seems like the most adult friendly payment alternative out there, despite their issues at times.

Agreed. Paypal is not a bank. They take your money.

who to contact about missing payments ?

from earlier this thread:
"Please shoot Mike an email at [email protected] and he will get you taken care of."

Months after months, there's always new problems... I'm getting tired of it...

Yeah owed a payment from March. Emailed Mike and crystal with no answers. Major studio but no paxum payments available? Thinking of pulling links

the sad irony of this particular post :disgust



back on topic, it's bullshit to have to fight for your $$$$ after you've already put in the work to earn it

hope everyone waiting gets what they're owed soon

Naughty Revenue is a bunch of idiots and thats me sugar coating it because calling them idiots is actually a compliment, they deserve being called worst. Seriously, for a big company, they run their affiliate program worst than a bunch of 5th graders. Scott and Glen must be the worst "affiliate managers" EVER in the adult industry. They don't reply to their affiliates whatsoever. And obviously reading this thread, its's painfully clear that unless you post in the thread, they basically SCAM you by not paying you and ignoring you.

This really borders on the program being a SCAM. When you don't pay your affiliates for months and ignore their requests/emails, that goes beyond incompetence or complacency, thats what you call, they are trying to SCAM into not paying their affiliates. Plain and simple. Who knows how many other affiliates not on GFY who are not getting paid. They are probably doing this to all their affiliates. They are counting on the fact they are a bigger company that we don't call them out or call them scammers, but lets face it, if they were a smaller program, we would have called them scammers a long time ago for the shady way they do business.

Its time you guys pull your links....the way they are doing business is very shady.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh these guys worthless douchebags just like their garbage program

DO NOT WORK FOR NAUGHTY REVENUE ever cause you will be ignored by Scott forever and Mike will maybe respond if he gets some pussy a night before your message, Crystal is a bad excuse for a accountant, she will promise you that she will pay our comission but you will not gonna get it till she gets some dick a night before you ask for a payment, so untill those few morons wont get what they want you wont be payed for sure, trust me, leave their program and dont turn back for nothing, fuck them.

Did everyone get paid ok? or still "waiting" from the clowns?

ha33y, I don't agree with the way you have spoken about my co-workers. You show a serious lack of class in the words you chose I hope you think twice about them and decide to apologize. That being said, I'd like to know your affiliate info so that I can deal with you appropriately. I hope to hear from you.

I've posted this before but apparently some of you are not paying attention. Email me or message me and I will take care of your issue. If you sit on here bashing my co-workers and posting a bunch of crap, I'll assume you are some bullshit keyboard jockey wasting everyone's time.

Everything that has been posted about your co workers have been fact. Scott and Glen who are your "affiliate managers" are a bunch of idiots that haven't heard of the concept of 'Answering emails'. They don't answer emails at all or take weeks to answer emails if you are lucky...Tell me which "affiliate managers" of a major program does that? It's not just one person complaining about this, it's a well known fact that they are useless.

And making guys wait since November for payments, and only when a thread like this exposes the company you work for comes to light, then one of you will pop in to say " Email me or message me and I will take care of your issue".

Bottom line why do you guys jerk your affiliates around in the first place and not pay on time like most big programs do?

Crystal reached out to me and acknowledged they owe me from March. Will wait till next period to see if that gets paid out. Took a while for a reply.

I emaled to Scott, Crystal and Mike. Scott doesn't answer, Mike sends my messages to Crystal. Crystal says that your bank doesn't send checks anymore. And how do I get my money now and in the future?

And I emailed many times to get some answer from them.

Affiliate programs should consider to value their affiliates more, on many summits and conventions the message is all the same from sponsors " We should value our affiliates more " funny I read here how the affiliate managers demand an apology, while they should consider that they are here to work for us.

Shout out to crystal and the team there. Got a back payment owed by check sent via a Western Union business services account. Check went through ok.

Congrats. Hopefully they can start to pay everyone owed on time and string a few months of that together again to gain back the full trust of their affiliates. Shouldn't have to beg for many months to get what you are owed.

I can't speak for anyone else, but NA has paid us. There's been a little lapse at times and I've reached out to them. Scott has been quiet for a little while, but Mike has always replied.

Personally, I'd love to see them get back on track because they've been such a great affiliate program for so many years that it'd be a shame to see it get tarnished. And while they're at it, bandwidth is much cheaper now so they should bring back "Ask Lauren" and the live streaming channels. Their production was better than any tube site.

Hope everyone gets settled up.

Thing is, their new "Western Union" ACHCredit is slow as fuck. Supposed to be deposited within 3 days based on the WU email and it's been 3 weeks now.

And they still did not follow up with the weekly payments. Last one was 3 weeks ago!
We have 10+ weeks and almost 5k still pending. This is not good at all!

Why not send a WIRE to cover all these payments.

I'm always sitting on 2-3k or more with N/A... and I need to clear credit cards! This is not acceptable anymore.

i've had my last payment stored for a month, hoping it doesn't turn into 3. time to send another reminder email. argh

They are just jerking you around as they do with most of their affiliates. Mike is the biggest joke of them all along with Scott. Frankly I don't know why anyone would bother dealing with a shady program like Naughty Revenue who screws their affiliates payments on a consistent basis.

Some people might look upon it as "well they will pay eventually" but I look at it from a different perspective. The longer they "hold" or "delay" your payments, that is money that stays in their bank account earning daily interests. Now imagine them doing that to the majority/all of their affiliates where they delay paying for 1 month, 2, 3, 4, and in some cases as you read in this thread, 6 months or longer, that's serious amount of money right there that they are earning cumulative interests having it sit in their accounts :disgust

And in turn, that's money you are owed that you are NOT earning interest :warning

Bottom line, they are fucking their affiliates :helpme

For a big program, there is no excuse for the way they jerk around their affiliates when it comes to payments. How come the other big companies like Gammae, Bangbros, Mofos, Paperstreet Cash, etc... have no problems paying their affiliates?

7k... I'm so fucking tired of waiting after my money.

I received some private documents from them... that explains serious shit - they should not play with my nerves.

i cant believe it what i read in this thread

sry for you dude

I am already asking for my money for weeks now but Crystal keeps coming up with excuses. It's absolutely crazy. Did anyone get paid lately?

Do you not recognize a sinking ship when you see it?
Pull your links and try to get paid on what you're owed, thats it.

What do you think I'm doing right now. This is a shout out to get my money.