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TheMaster 02-20-2018 03:48 AM

2 payments pending now

cordoba 02-21-2018 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMaster (Post 22212323)
2 payments pending now

Lucky you.

What about the dozens of affiliates they owe $xx,xxx to and aren't even replying to their e-mails?

Does anyone know how to contact Ian Paul, the 'Informations Officer' for Naughty America?

TheMaster 02-21-2018 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 22213935)
What about the dozens of affiliates they owe $xx,xxx to and aren't even replying to their e-mails?

I know people that are owed $xxx,xxx

EliteWebmaster 02-23-2018 05:35 AM

Anyone on here that has full access to Naughty America members area? If you do, send me an email :winkwink::winkwink:

BigFurry 02-26-2018 04:00 AM

Still no payment

TheMaster 02-26-2018 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22220651)
Still no payment

no, they say they are aware of it

pamon 02-26-2018 10:41 AM

Another week of waiting I'm sure ahead

alenci 02-26-2018 12:14 PM

I am also still waiting after 4 emails and replying to "Crystal"

pamon 02-26-2018 01:03 PM

Ok after another email got paid via PayPal. Told Mike to pay me and close the account and I knew they were not paying other affiliates yet posting new stuff daily. PayPal arrived and I'm done with NA.

Axeman 02-26-2018 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pamon (Post 22221325)
Ok after another email got paid via PayPal. Told Mike to pay me and close the account and I knew they were not paying other affiliates yet posting new stuff daily. PayPal arrived and I'm done with NA.

Glad to hear they paid you, even when you said you wanted to close out the account. Hopefully they start getting on track and getting everyone paid and up to date.

EliteWebmaster 02-27-2018 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pamon (Post 22221325)
Ok after another email got paid via PayPal. Told Mike to pay me and close the account and I knew they were not paying other affiliates yet posting new stuff daily. PayPal arrived and I'm done with NA.

Good that you got paid Pamon finally. I love how you told them to close your account, they are simply not worth the hassle to promote when they are actively ripping off affiliates.

BCPD 03-01-2018 04:13 PM

I feel like there should be some sort of list of known shady affiliate programs such as Naughty Revenue. Would have saved me a ton of hassle if I had spent the resources promoting different programs from the start.

BigFurry 03-02-2018 02:06 AM

They still owe me, and they still don't respond :(

Ramp 03-02-2018 03:32 AM

I have pending payment too. Not getting a response via email either.

ha33y 03-02-2018 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyJohnson (Post 21806476)
ha33y, I don't agree with the way you have spoken about my co-workers. You show a serious lack of class in the words you chose I hope you think twice about them and decide to apologize. That being said, I'd like to know your affiliate info so that I can deal with you appropriately. I hope to hear from you.

Hello Naughty Johnson, first of all i still didn't got my money cause i am tired of mailing you, morons, the second thing is that i don't give a fuck about what you agree with or not, Scott is a lazy retarded fucker who doesn't give a fuck about his work, Crystal is a lazy fuck also and you all are a bunch of no good lazy fucks and Naughty America needs fuckers like you so you can scam the hard working people and about confronting you i would reallyl ike to meet you in person all of you so we can talk like real people and i would explain to you some things, i hope you all liars who work for naughtyfuckers.com also taste your own medicine one day and you will also have to beg for your money.

I wrote this just to encourage all you affiliates to don't work for this mtf scamming people at naughtyrevenue.

Freedom6995 03-09-2018 09:49 PM

back to the top

TheMaster 03-13-2018 11:28 AM

still no peep from Crystal

american pervert 03-14-2018 01:48 PM

craziness

Holy Damage 03-14-2018 02:11 PM

links pulled

ciriac 03-15-2018 08:05 AM

And what about Sensational Cash? Any contact? Same like NaughtyRevenue, no payout!

Zombify 03-20-2018 02:13 PM

3 pending payments now, sent many messages to Crystal, no replies.

TheMaster 03-20-2018 02:52 PM

no reply from Mike either

Smart Fred 03-24-2018 12:41 AM

Hi guys,

I've been waiting to see what will happen with my payment request before writing anything new on this thread.

So I first asked to Mike a payment on mid-february who relay it to Crystal.
3 weeks later as I had no news I told Mike I had to email Crystal an Joe.
2 more weeks later I could confirm what many of you have written: no payment, no email answer from NA accountancy.

The way I advert porn, NA is one of the best converting site. Previously it was 30% of my income so I couldn't pulled out all the links. As I saw this kind of trouble coming, I've diversified my activities and now NA is only 15% of my income. They still owe me some $2,000.

I could understand cash flow problems. I could understand Crystal may be swamped with work. But not having an answer to an email from neither Crystal, nor Joe, no sorry, no, I couldn't understand it.

So whatever the reasons if in two weeks, April 7, I've not been paid, I will take actions and sanctions towards NA. Doing this alone won't trouble them, but if many affiliates do the same actions and sanctions at the same time that could hit the minds in the porn business.

I really hope to come back in two weeks telling you I've been paid and there's still hope at promoting NA.

SexVR 03-28-2018 03:43 PM

Haven't received last 3 payouts! We have decided to pull their links till we get paid!

Crystal doesn't reply to any mails. Joe doesn't reply. Mike just says he will chase it up with accounting.

This is a fucking joke.

Andrew

Zombify 03-28-2018 03:49 PM

I'm going to speculate they have been heavily sued and are using affiliate funds to pay it off every month. I know there was a company who had VR patents going after adult VR companies. This seems the most likely reason for the downfall of their affiliate program.

MrBottomTooth 03-28-2018 07:11 PM

I emailed them again and asked for them to please go check to see if Crystal was physically ok as i feared she might have had a medical emergency months ago and could be sitting dead in her office chair.

geirlur 03-29-2018 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexVR (Post 22245390)
Haven't received last 3 payouts!

Same here :warning

TheMaster 03-29-2018 07:44 AM

bump for an Easter payment

ctggls 03-29-2018 08:02 AM

Posted just to add myself to long list of not paid affiliates. Of course, no response to my emails

Smart Fred 03-29-2018 12:37 PM

I was waiting for an accounting email from 5 weeks. Not strangely, I received an email on monday after posting my message here and on XBiz saturday.

I answered them my point of view about this situation. As a result payment received wednesday and account closed. I prefer it this way even if it's really unfortunate cause they have a great site.

When you run a classic company, you can't afford to have customers that don't pay otherwise you risk bankrupcy. That's not because as affiliates our income is always bigger than our bills that we have to run our business differently from a classic company.

Good luck in getting your payment and good luck to NA to solve their cash flow problem if any.

ctggls 03-29-2018 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smart Fred (Post 22245844)
I was waiting for an accounting email from 5 weeks. Not strangely, I received an email on monday after posting my message here and on XBiz saturday.

I answered them my point of view about this situation. As a result payment received wednesday and account closed. I prefer it this way even if it's really unfortunate cause they have a great site.

When you run a classic company, you can't afford to have customers that don't pay otherwise you risk bankrupcy. That's not because as affiliates our income is always bigger than our bills that we have to run our business differently from a classic company.

Good luck in getting your payment and good luck to NA to solve their cash flow problem if any.

They've closed your account??? That,s a little bit lame from a company as big as NA

Holy Damage 03-29-2018 10:05 PM

So, in order we get paid, We need make a thread here and on Xbiz... and after that, We get our account closed? hmmm... I can afford that :)

Smart Fred 03-30-2018 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holy Damage (Post 22246021)
So, in order we get paid, We need make a thread here and on Xbiz... and after that, We get our account closed? hmmm... I can afford that :)

Could you afford to promote them some more few months and then if they officially bankrupt get nothing ? I prefer to work for sites that will pay me even if they convert a little less.

cordoba 03-30-2018 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smart Fred (Post 22246109)
Could you afford to promote them some more few months and then if they officially bankrupt get nothing ? I prefer to work for sites that will pay me even if they convert a little less.

Are you saying they closed your account, or you closed your account after getting paid?

A lot of us are on the rev share program.

I got paid $1,500 the other week, first payment for 6 months or so. So I'm still owed around $30,000. Even if I pulled every link I could expect to make at least that again in rebills over the next few years.

the indigo 03-31-2018 09:14 AM

The owner is broke.

I have confidential documents showing he's extremely late on tax payments.

I will probably get these documents out and start a sponsored ad just to notify everybody they are screwing over their affiliates soon.

ctggls 03-31-2018 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the indigo (Post 22246611)
The owner is broke.

I have confidential documents showing he's extremely late on tax payments.

I will probably get these documents out and start a sponsored ad just to notify everybody they are screwing over their affiliates soon.

Then why not sell the business to someone who can run it well? I'm sure that is still a lot of potential in NA brand

AMDWarrior 03-31-2018 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the indigo (Post 22246611)
The owner is broke.

I have confidential documents showing he's extremely late on tax payments.

I will probably get these documents out and start a sponsored ad just to notify everybody they are screwing over their affiliates soon.


Post em..


But no idea why people still deal with em..

digi 04-05-2018 07:30 AM

I too am owed money from them.

Sending emails every day but never getting any response.

BigFurry 04-05-2018 09:08 AM

They are pissing off their members too now

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculusnsfw/..._out_existing/

cordoba 04-07-2018 03:58 AM

Their Reddit guy is damned rude too. Seems they really don't give a toss how many people they are pissing off, whether hard working affiliates or paying subscribers.

cordoba 04-07-2018 06:22 AM

It would be great if a bonafide company like Pimproll, Badoink, or Reality Lovers bought them out and then paid the money owed to NR affiliates. Naughty America certainly has a lot of good VR content. The problem I guess is that VR is progressing rapidly, moving already to 5K for example, that that existing content might be close to worthless in a couple of years. And given the continued disapointing lack of growth in the VR market, I doubt very much any company has the money at the moment to buy them out AND pay off all their affiliate debt.

TheMaster 04-07-2018 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22249020)
They are pissing off their members too now

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculusnsfw/..._out_existing/

http://www.pornusers.com/replies_vie...=106677#106719

reading their angry customer reviews, it seems like they are giving new members access to 100 old scenes and if you want to see new videos, you need to pay extra for every channel eg My Dad's Hot Girlfriend, My Friend's Hot Girl, I Have a Wife, ...

they really seem to be pissing off consumers (also on NA forum), feels like a mistake as big as the one Digg made, will they end up the same way?

Adraco 04-07-2018 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 22249826)
It would be great if a bonafide company like Pimproll, Badoink, or Reality Lovers bought them out and then paid the money owed to NR affiliates. Naughty America certainly has a lot of good VR content. The problem I guess is that VR is progressing rapidly, moving already to 5K for example, that that existing content might be close to worthless in a couple of years. And given the continued disapointing lack of growth in the VR market, I doubt very much any company has the money at the moment to buy them out AND pay off all their affiliate debt.

Why would a new buyer "waste" money by paying off old/current affiliates what is owed? That's the responsibility of the old/current owner. They have made the sale and profited from it, they pay. Only way a new buyer would pay off the outstanding debt would be if it's included as part of the purchase price but why would the current owner accept that, since they are not paying as it already is.

Lose the dream and get real!

cordoba 04-07-2018 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 22249997)
Why would a new buyer "waste" money by paying off old/current affiliates what is owed? That's the responsibility of the old/current owner. They have made the sale and profited from it, they pay. Only way a new buyer would pay off the outstanding debt would be if it's included as part of the purchase price but why would the current owner accept that, since they are not paying as it already is.

Lose the dream and get real!

I agree I'm dreaming, but maybe a new owner might want to restore the brand and keep the past affiliates happy (or bring them back)?

Also, obviously the law regarding debt and such doesn't apply to the adult biz and us poor subhuman affiliate webmasters, or everybody assumes it doesn't, but doesn't a new owner of a company with existing debts have to take responsibility of those debts?

LizardKing 04-08-2018 10:26 AM

missing 3 payments now...

edit:typo

TheMaster 04-08-2018 05:11 PM

....and first chargeback of a yearly sale, I expect chargebacks to increase because of their new pricing
in past NA had great rebills, guess that might come to an end too

Brian mike 04-11-2018 05:22 AM

Got an email from NATE TAKE DOWN notice even i try to get a hold of them Since a While :helpme :1orglaugh
And of course we have an affiliate account

My name is Nate Glass, and I am a person authorized to act on behalf of
the owner of an exclusive right that is being infringed.

Authorized DMCA Agent:
Nate Glass

==================

They ask me to contact [email protected] LOL. The same mike you guys talking about in this thread i guess.

Sent to mike this thread Link and asking him how he want to resolved this :1orglaugh

I gonna start deleting their video anyhow i heard another debt they haved Close to 90K NR Owes to another Board member lol Not too much interest in continuing pushing them traffic.

TheMaster 04-11-2018 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22251856)
Got an email from NATE TAKE DOWN notice even i try to get a hold of them Since a While :helpme :1orglaugh
And of course we have an affiliate account

My name is Nate Glass, and I am a person authorized to act on behalf of
the owner of an exclusive right that is being infringed.

Authorized DMCA Agent:
Nate Glass

==================

They ask me to contact Mike LOL.

Sent to mike this thread Link and asking him how he want to resolved this :1orglaugh


I gonna strt deleting their video anyhow i hear another Close to 90K NR Owes to another Board member lol

picture gallery or video, one or multiple?

Brian mike 04-11-2018 05:34 AM

I just took down 24 videos. FUCK THAT i have no time to waist with them.

Plenty of other sponsors who want to PAY .. They dont owes me shit but this thread speak Loud about the way they conduct their business :thumbsup

I wondering with the numbers $$ flying around this thread if NR would be under close to 1M in debt to affiliate......

Holy Damage 04-16-2018 04:54 PM

bump.
never forget


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