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Old 11-24-2015, 08:59 AM   #101
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You don't use your brain and that's not good. Russia can intensify bombing of the Turkmen territory in Syria and it can start a ground operation against those pro-Turkish rebels. Turks will swallow it and believe me - the whole NATO gang will seat quite. They are too cowardly to interfere.
so Putin's "consequences" will be "we'll intensify bombing of the Turkmen territory in Syria and we'll start a ground operation against those pro-Turkish rebels"?

and really, that's not the best strategy, what good can possibly come out of Russia getting dragged deeper into another neverending proxy war?

Russian soldiers will then come home in body bags for years, while all Turkey has to do is supply weapons to the rebels... sounds to me like Russia would be getting the short end of that deal...
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That all shit is fairly fucked up. WWIII or fuck off.
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:15 AM   #105
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Obama always gives ISIS 45 minute warning before bombing, shame NATO don't give that to Russia before shooting down jets
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so Putin's "consequences" will be "we'll intensify bombing of the Turkmen territory in Syria and we'll start a ground operation against those pro-Turkish rebels"?
I have no idea what he thinks. He is crazy and he can start a global nuclear war right when we are talking here. My post was about what I would do in such a situation. Plus I'd start working on Turkish aviation of course (working means hunting on Russian military slang).

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and really, that's not the best strategy, what good can possibly come out Russia getting dragged deeper into another neverending proxy war?
That's a good strategy (telling you as a person who has learned the art of war), but once again: I can't predict Putin's reaction. That guy is really out of control and ever a psychiatrist can't say what he will do in the next moment.

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Russian soldiers will then come home in body bags for years, while all Turkey has to do is supply weapons to the rebels... sounds to me like Russia would be getting the short end of that deal...
Everybody will come home in body bags. Russians, Turks, Syrians, Americans... It's a war and every country will get enough of it. When your country have supported Al Qaeda and Taliban, you didn't think about 9/11. You thought those good "moderate" mudzahedins will do all the dirty job for you and won't start killing your own people? You are just idiots if so.
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Ok.... so Russians know when they fly over other countries teritory...
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I don't know what's more disgusting.... shooting at parachutists or screaming "akbar"...
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Ok.... so Russians know when they fly over other countries teritory...
Course they are (if they did). But once again, nobody can prove they were flying over Turkey. The bomber was shot down by Turks in the Syrian sky and it fell in Syria. Those are facts we can't deny, right?
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I have no idea what he thinks. He is crazy and he can start a global nuclear war right when we are talking here. My post was about what I would do in such a situation. Plus I'd start working on Turkish aviation of course (working means hunting on Russian military slang).
Each time the US wins another chess piece...Syria, Iran, Lebanon, India etc, eventually there will just be Russia, China and NK left, whereas now Russia have more allies, they need to do their best to defend them or eventually it will be just Russia and China on their own and far easier to take down economically, and then politically
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The bomber was shot down by Turks in the Syrian sky
you got proof of that?

Cause Turks say otherwise and back it up with proof.
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Course they are (if they did). But once again, nobody can prove they were flying over Turkey. The bomber was shot down by Turks in the Syrian sky and it fell in Syria. Those are facts we can't deny, right?
That's why i said "ah well... we can't blame Turkey for having a location error" now and then... Russians have them all the time....
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That's why i said "ah well... we can't blame Turkey for having a location error" now and then... Russians have them all the time....
Such "errors" can not be tolerated. They knew there is a war zone in Syria. They knew it was a Russian plane. So it was shot down intentionally because (as it was said above) it was bombing the ISIS oil trucks moving to Turkey. Doesn't matter if it has crossed the Turkish border or not.
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Such "errors" can not be tolerated. They knew there is a war zone in Syria. They knew it was a Russian plane. So it was shot down intentionally because (as it was said above) it was bombing the ISIS oil trucks moving to Turkey. Doesn't matter if it has crossed the Turkish border or not.
dumbfuck rooskie,

it was a dumbfuck rooskie error and if you dumbfuck rooskies do it again, you'll get shot down again.

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Such "errors" can not be tolerated. They knew there is a war zone in Syria. They knew it was a Russian plane. So it was shot down intentionally because (as it was said above) it was bombing the ISIS oil trucks moving to Turkey.
Ok then.... let's just wait till the West stops tolerating Russia's "location errors"... including those above Europe etc...

In regards to "tolerating it".... A call on the carpet for turkey's ambassador maybe?
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Ok then.... let's just wait till the West stops tolerating Russia's "location errors"... including those above Europe etc...
Which exactly Europe are you talking about? The biggest European country is Russia (about 44% of the whole European content). So when you say "Europe" you say "Russia". When you say "Russia" you say "Europe" + "Asia". Anyways, have you got some links to prove your words?
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Which exactly Europe are you talking about? The biggest European country is Russia (about 44% of the whole European content). So when you say "Europe" you say "Russia". When you say "Russia" you say "Europe" + "Asia". Anyways, have you got some links to prove your words?
Here is one example:
What Are These Russian Strategic Nuclear Bombers Doing Infiltrating NATO Airspace?

"The Bears enter European airspace without asking for permission. In the latest case, NATO forces had to scramble interceptors to shadow them all the way from Denmark until the Dutch fighters that recorded this video intercepted them over the Netherlands. Fortunately, we are not in the Cold War days anymore (are we?) as any of these incidents would have initiated a serious conflict.

The Russian authorities have not given any explanation about these bomber flights, but they keep testing the waters without seemingly caring about the consequences. NATO is limiting itself to escort them out of the airspace but, according to Ares, this is already the fourth time that NATO has intercepted Tu-95 over European skies in 2011 alone."

not the most recent example, but perfectly illustrates how Russia "keeps testing the waters without seemingly caring about the consequences"... now they got shot down and are acting surprised...
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They shot them down for that?!.
Do you not remember the Chinese military jet that had a mid air collision with a US spy plane that was in international waters? Chinese do it, Russians do it, the US does it but they all stay out of other country,s air space EXCEPT Russia.

Russia has violated other countries air space during the Ukraine war many times and they have violated Turky's air space on several occasions while in Syria. Turkey has already shot down a shitty Russian drone and has repeatedly warned Russia to stay out of their air space..

It seems Russsia keeps pushing so Turkey shot their jet down.. What do you think Russia would do if NATO jets kept crossing their airspace? Once is an accident, twice is a mistake.. More than three times seems it gets shot down.
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An article from some never-known-source? Cool! Usually all those articles get explained as: "they were close to our territory" or "they have entered our exclusive economic zone" (note the UN convention of 1982) etc. So once again: what's the proof? Should we also start killing the US pilots in the Russian airspace? Why not, by the way?

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By THE ASSOCIATED PRESSNOV. 24, 2015, 9:00 A.M. E.S.T.



http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015...ns-glance.html

Story is changing? One pilot survived?
Last time a Jordanian pilot was captured by the Islamic Terrorist State you know what happened. Hopefully, he will just be held as a POW and not executed as a war criminal -- that is the way the rebels may see this

Is there, or is there not, a difference between insurgent fighters in a civil war (rebels) and the Islamic Terrorist State (ISIS)? We will see ...
According to Russians any rebels that attack Assad are Terrorists and ISIS, which means that Russian backed rebels in Ukraine e are also terrorists and Russia backs them..

Tit for tat...it's all the same shit.. But Russians are looking very weak.. First Ukraine takes out the power to Cimeria and now they get their plane shot down by Turkey.. Two third world countries slapping Putin around a bit..
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According to Russians any rebels that attack Assad are Terrorists and ISIS
No. They are not. They are moderate Islamists like whose "Allahu Akbars" who did this:



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P.S. When Saudi Arabians have killed thousands of American citizens, no single US bomb was dropped to their soil. No single soldier was sent to fight back the motherfcukers. That's because your government is a bunch of greedy and corrupted pussies that would never protect their people. You have just swallowed it.
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An article from some never-known-source? Cool! Usually all those articles get explained as: "they were close to our territory" or "they have entered our exclusive economic zone" (note the UN convention of 1982) etc. So once again: what's the proof? Should we also start killing the US pilots in the Russian airspace? Why not, by the way?
of course, so as usual it's just western propaganda, right? Russian aircraft never entered NATO airspace, they are just making things up for fun...

what proof would you want anyway? you will call it fake or inconclusive anyway, like you did with the proof posted few posts above showing Russian aircraft flying over Turkey airspace...
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take a wild guess who is the #1 buyer of oil from ISIS:

1) turkey
2) turkey


or


3) turkey


the answer is: turkey!
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Some Russians are sharing rage on social media over Turkey's downing of a Russian military plane on Tuesday with a hashtag that translates as "stab in the spine."

УдарВСпину, or "stab in the back," comes from Russian President Vladimir Putin's remarks in the aftermath of the downing of the Russian Sukhoi Su-24 military plane.

"This event is beyond the normal framework of fighting against terrorism," Putin said during a meeting in Sochi with King Abdullah II of Jordan. "Of course, our military is doing heroic work against terrorism...But the loss today is a stab in the back, carried out by the accomplices of terrorists."

Russians are just as pissed as Putin about Turkey shooting down their jet
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I'm gonna have to take Putin's side on this one. Even if they did violate the airspace, they clearly weren't planning to attack/invade turkey with one plane and two guys.
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Just FYI guys: according to the new Russian military doctrine, the army is allowed to use nuclear weapon against other countries in preventive cases,

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As about the possible full-scale war. I'll tell you small secret: Russia can destroy Turkey on 70% or so within about 30 minutes using tactical nukes only. The problem is that Turkey is a NATO ally and we have a lot of Russian tourists there.
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An article from some never-known-source? Cool! Usually all those articles get explained as: "they were close to our territory" or "they have entered our exclusive economic zone" (note the UN convention of 1982) etc. So once again: what's the proof? Should we also start killing the US pilots in the Russian airspace? Why not, by the way?


you dumbfuck nuke lovin rooskie, that youtube is one of your drunk fuckwad nuke lovin rooskie pilots flying like a fucking rookie harassing a recon flight over international waters

Russian Jet Again Harasses U.S. Reconnaissance Plane


According to the Pentagon, the U.S. RC-135U plane was flying in international airspace north of Poland. U.S. officials say a Russian SU-27 fighter intercepted the U.S. aircraft at a high rate of speed from the rear, and then proceeded to conduct two more passes using "unsafe and unprofessional maneuvers" in close proximity.

"Unprofessional air intercepts have the potential to cause harm to all aircrews involved. More importantly, the careless actions of a single pilot have the potential to escalate tensions between countries," Wright said.
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Pro tip... When you are dropping bombs on people you call terrorists and those bombs are killing their mother's wives and children.. They are likely not going to react very nicely if they get their hands on you..

Of course you say nothing of all the Ukraine people the Russian backed rebels executed..
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of course, so as usual it's just western propaganda, right?
It is not. Is its just a stupid article published by some unknown site to make traffic. C'mon you are not an idiot and you know how to play these games with Google.
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Obama always gives ISIS 45 minute warning before bombing, shame NATO don't give that to Russia before shooting down jets
Perhaps Russia should give everyone 45mins warning prior to invading other country's air space.. Why are you such a little brainwashed Russian meat puppet?

Think out your silly little responses for once..
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Чe cкaзл-тo? И xcpeнa ли gfy cтaл aнглийcким фopумoм? Tы типa вoзoмнил ceбя aнглийcким лopдoм уже? Зaвязывaй с нapкoтoй
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I'm gonna have to take Putin's side on this one. Even if they did violate the airspace, they clearly weren't planning to attack/invade turkey with one plane and two guys.
They were planning to attack the ISIS oil traffic from Syria to Turkey. That was the reason. The problem is that the plane was shot down over Syria (not Turkey) and the pilots were killed by Syrian terrorists. That's whey Turks have crapped their pants and already asked NATO for a military support if Russia will strike back.
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It is not. Is its just a stupid article published by some unknown site to make traffic. C'mon you are not an idiot and you know how to play these games with Google.
is cnn more credible?

Dutch fighter jets intercept 2 Russian bombers in their airspace - CNN.com

"Maj. Wilko Ter Horst said that the military learned around 3:50 p.m. (9:50 a.m. ET) that two Russian TU-95 bombers, known as Bears, had come a half-mile inside its airspace."

what do you make of that? I really have no idea why you are playing stupid, it's a known fact that Russian aircraft fly very close to or even enter NATO space all the time...
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:54 AM   #138
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That's because your government is a bunch of greedy and corrupted pussies that would never protect their people. You have just swallowed it.
Funny. Do you expect a rocket from Amsterdam?
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:55 AM   #139
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is cnn more credible?
No CNN (aka Communist News Network) is not because they are pathological liars and you know that.

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Old 11-24-2015, 10:56 AM   #140
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Чe cкaзл-тo? И xcpeнa ли gfy cтaл aнглийcким фopумoм? Tы типa вoзoмнил ceбя aнглийcким лopдoм уже? Зaвязывaй с нapкoтoй
You're right, how silly of me to use the word's Russian and courteous in the same sentence. Silly me.
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:57 AM   #141
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take a wild guess who is the #1 buyer of oil from ISIS:

1) turkey
2) turkey


or


3) turkey


the answer is: turkey!
i don't need to take a wild guess to know how fucking full of complete shit you are.
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:58 AM   #142
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You're right, how silly of me to use the word's Russian and courteous in the same sentence. Silly me.
Silly you for speaking one single language only ;)
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They were planning to attack the ISIS oil traffic from Syria to Turkey. That was the reason. The problem is that the plane was shot down over Syria (not Turkey) and the pilots were killed by Syrian terrorists. That's whey Turks have crapped their pants and already asked NATO for a military support if Russia will strike back.
dumfuck rooskie,

here's the big oil traffic from isis/syria to turkey.



The truth about Turkey and Islamic State oil - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East
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I'm gonna have to take Putin's side on this one. Even if they did violate the airspace, they clearly weren't planning to attack/invade turkey with one plane and two guys.
Enough is enough at times. It's not the first time.
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Funny. Do you expect a rocket from Amsterdam?
Do you want to say crockett lives in the Netherlans? I really didn't know that.
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:05 AM   #146
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dumbfuck rooskie,
it was a dumbfuck rooskie error and if you dumbfuck rooskies do it again, you'll get shot down again.
dumbfuck rooskie.
Give better comb Bernie Sanders
we will not apply a nuclear weapon, we will support the Kurds.
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They shot them down for that?!.
If the image is correct turks are more than stupid, this was far from necessary.



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According to that picture the Russian bomber (a red line) was shot down by Turkish jet fighter (a yellow line). Also it shows that Russian bomber has crossed the border of Turkey (a blue line). We can just trust or not trust to this picture.

Actually it doesn't matter if the border has crossed (unwittingly?) the Turkish border or not. The bomber has not attacking the Turkish territory. It was bombing Turkmen rebels in Syria. Turks don't like that and they decided to start shooting down Russian planes (set a no flight zone in that part of Syria). Course Russia won't just swallow it. This gonna end very bad.
Of course, territory or not what the fuck they know what the russians are doing there.

But this whole story stinks, nothing makes sense yet.

But I know one thing, turkey should never have joined NATO.
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Another one.. (this time a helicopter by rebels)... of course the source site is questionable..

Destroying the second Russian military aircraft in Lattakia’s countryside | Syrian Observatory For Human Rights

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The rebel factions targeted by a guided missile a Russian helicopter forced to land in Kfarya area located near Jabal al- Nawba between Jabal al- Akrad and Jabal al- Turkman in the northern countryside of Lattakia leading to destroy the helicopter after the escape of its crew.
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No CNN (aka Communist News Network) is not because they are pathological liars and you know that.

Yes yes.. Poor little innocent Russia never invades anyone country, never arms rebels who shoot down airliners and floods third world countries with Soviet era arms to fuel the terrorism.. Nooe we got it all wrong Russians are always getting blamed for stuff when they dindu nuttins..
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:11 AM   #150
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Give better comb Bernie Sanders
we will not apply a nuclear weapon, we will support the Kurds.
Bernie Sander's comb over has more brain capacity that putie/typical rooskie.

he's the only government official in this fiasco that's talking any common sense solutions.


certainly having rooskie jets encroach turkish airspace is so fucking not the way to end this it's ridiculous, there's not even isis in that fucking region.

so yeah, feel the Bern.
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