mechanicvirus

That's quite impressive that there's still affiliates left doing six figures a month, definitely gives people hope. I agree that it looks like there's much less affiliates these days which means those who stick it out get a bigger piece of the pie if they play their cards right. I noticed paysite sales decline, but things like webcams are on the up and up. Now if only I could send my traffic to better converting sites.

anexsia

There's plenty of ways to make money as an affiliate but you have to actually put in work

$5 submissions

It depends on your EXIT STRATEGY.

Other webmasters prefer creating sites that make around $250 a month and flip them quickly at Flippa for $2500 to $5000 and rinse and repeat

This used to be a hassle because it had to be done manually to avoid the spammy look of autoblog/autospam curation BS

Now, thanks to current generation content syndication and sniping tools like Sociocaster, it's easy to crank these out.

Kinda like baking hotcakes lol

So, is there money in affiliate marketing? Yes, it depends on your exit strategy.

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You can still do decent numbers ($500/day+) as an affiliate......... mainstream + mailing. I doubt you can in adult.

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mechanicvirus

Do you suggest people get into mailing if they have large free sites, for extra sales?

The Porn Nerd

But how does the site go from $250 to 10x-20x that so it can be flipped?

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I suppose he means the custom of selling sites for 10x monthly revenue

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btw only successful affiliates I know of are doing five figures monthly on cams, pretty sure I don't know ANY affiliate doing that much with paysite sales

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mechanicvirus

There's quite a few still left but I don't really think they openly admit it.

plaster

Can you post your own numbers of doing +500 with emails and mainstream?

The Porn Nerd

Makes sense. Thanks.

Not a bad business model if you're willing to bust your ass. It's much easier to get to $250-$500 in revenue than it is to get to $2500-$5000.

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THIS ...

EXACTLY!

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$5 submissions

Well, people will buy a site with a nice income growth rate at the $250 range for $2500 to $5000

This is done through viral content (most ethically with links but I'd be lying to you if I didn't tell you that people who push the envelope don't do freebooting) using social media signals detected by tools like sociocaster.

Think of sites like break.com but taking already viral stuff and re-feeding it to the internet to 'surf' on its viral appeal. Kind of like creating break.com-like sites in batches and reselling them over and over again. Also, there are many different verticals. Troll right wing political blogs are especially susceptible to this business model. Again, it's all about build, grow (off viral appeal), sell. Repeat.

Again, to stay ethical you should only do links (since it produces a win/win situation).

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$5 submissions

CJ has always been a joke... Even when I was banking a 10 to 15% conversion rate off optin mail traffic in 2000-2002.

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JPN

They used to...But not now.
I'll post about this in details.

Black All Through

Last I looked the checks I cashed in were real ones (nearly all from Canada), real money because the bank took them

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Guys / Gals

Their is money being an affiliate, yes Traffic is important for that speciific niche. I have Trans500.com obviously a TS Site

I can tell you, I have multi niche sites like PornHub and Xhamster converting around 1:1100 and individual TS Sites run by individuals converting 1:300 - 1:600

Our type in Traffic is around 1:245

Point is, we are cutting monthly checks to some for $ 100 and others $ 500, $ 1000 and more

So yes their is still money to be made

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tossi-c

There is no money in adult (c)

JA$ON

People always say that when they see a big affiliate. Why not promote your own program! I think in some cases your right, but in most, it just doesnt make sense. First, in cases of Cams / Dating, building a successful program can take millions of dollars, time resources and the chance that you will be able to build one that converts / retains as well as the one you are promoting as an affiliate are slim to none. There are a small hand full of successful cam programs, there is a reason.

Also, as an affiliate doing 100, 200, 500+ joins a day.....you need to have the ability to promote multiple offers. VERY rarely do you see someone at that level sending all their joins to one place (Cams being the exception sometimes) If you started your own and tried to send 100% of the traffic their you loose the edge your competition has.

If you can be an affiliate as a one man show, or a small group and make a few million a year with little to no overhead then dumping millions, hiring people, getting processing etc etc to make an additional 20% (Im ballparking how much more you would make off of a join if you owned the program) is a huge risk. Affiliates get 50%-70% of the join value without having to take on any risk or overhead. And in cases of PPL/PPS, they get it on DAY 1, where the program needs to wait 6-9 months to recover that $ and get into the black.

There is a reason almost every whale (xxx joins a day+) continues to do so as an affiliate and doesnt start a program to send all their traffic to. It might make sense if you do 50 joins a day to a small paysite niche, then I can see it making sense because you could build and run a single site without to much effort or expense.

JA$ON

There are cams/dating affiliates out there doing 100, 500, 1000+ sales a day. But in my experience, anyone doing REAL volume these days fits into one of 3 categories....

Mailing, Media Buying (a small hand full of guys at that level though) and Chat / SN Spam


Im sure there are others doing thats kind of volume in other ways, just not anyone I know

Shadexpwn

Just sitting there won't make you anything unless you know what you're doing.

Automation is key to success, the earlier you do it the faster & easier it gets.

I didn't know fake money existed selling porn.

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porn is dead. move on

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There aren't much less affiliates, you are just not seeing them because they are not posting on adult forums. The business changed, mainstream affiliates moved into Adult, they do not come here to post, they probably read a lot but never post. There are 2-4 really good private forums where these guys post on and share tips, you have to pay monthly to be a member and in some cases, have references.

These forums are so popular that they even throw their own industry conferences that are attended by 1000+ people.

Look at this thread, Revolution Force have come up this year with their own CPA network because of the demand for systems like this, they are doing great in a short space of time. There are many more CPA networks too, these guys aren't flourishing because their are less affiliates, they are flourishing because the guys making money are used to busting their ass 12 hours a day and not used to the golden days of adult when you worked for 2 hours and made thousands per month very easily.

Modern day affiliates will work 90 hours a week, build teams who think like them, partner up with other successful affiliates to create "masterminds" and attack hard.

SomeCreep

Just the tubes.

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NickBaer

It helps to diversify. Being a studio to earn from content creation and sales, and to earn as an Affiliate of other programs that represent niches I cannot do, due to time, geography, cash. Can't be everything to everyone, at any one moment in time.

As an Affiliate, I like CCBill programs, because earnings are aggregated across all of the programs I sign up for, with $25 threshold for check payment. Maybe there are similar aggregating processors. I really don't like Programs that bill themselves, and individually have $100 thresholds And then don't pay.

As a performer, I like Chaturbate, with its new responsive payout program. Chaturbate Couples, Women, Men.

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You gotta run ton of websites in adult to make money

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beavr

Is it like some sort of a spook, some few have seen it while others have to believe?

fuzebox

Every time I want to post something in this thread, JA$ON posts exactly what I was going to say.

Truth and knowledge bombs all over this thread

Barefootsies

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BlackCrayon

except he is basically saying you need to be a spammer of one kind or another to make big money these days. websites are dead unless you're a massive tube.

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selektor

With good amount and quality of traffic, there is good money too.

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I was making $500 a day, most days on just a couple of hundred uniques. Traffic isn't king, content is.

PornDude

So you were making $500 a day without traffic. Teach me!

selektor

I'm interested in this concept also. Teach us, master...

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Kelli58

Having all the traffic in the world and no content won't do shit for you.
Having all the content in the world and no traffic won't do shit for you.

In the end, you need the perfect combination of them both. They go hand in hand. One without the other is pointless. If you are going to make money you need them both. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit.

Period.

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JPN

Agreed.
Random traffic won't help. Visitors ain't stupid.

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No, you have traffic you have money, you arnt getting traffic without content, but traffic is money. You fools.

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Barefootsies

More or less.

If you send out 1 million emails, with the right offer, a couple of times a day/week/month, you have the potential to get your message in front of more people than chasing down business any number of other methods. There are plenty of articles who talk about the effectiveness of email to other methods out there.

Now, all of that said........ keep in mind just having a list and sending it out is not enough. You still have spam filters, ability to inbox, the right offer that converts, targets lists, cleaning up your lists of traps/bounces/etc, CAN-SPAM regulations, and many other moving parts that go into effective email marketing.

However, it is still by far one of the best "bang for your buck" ways to affiliate market out of the options available on a volume play. When done right, you can still do much better than the legacy internet marketing methods whether you have the best content on the planet or not.

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Colmike9

Sometimes I'll have over 1mil uniques that make like $10, then I'll have days that are around 1:100... I know I've wasted money by not monetizing traffic enough, it's easy to get..

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I monetize the shit outta mine ;)

Doing what I can to break into mainstream but doesn't seem that financially worth it, time wise but I'm doing it anyway.

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I used to make decent with a candy shop, but I sold the domain and someone turned it into a porn site.. lol

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LOL

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1mil uniques making $10? Not even chinese traffic will suck that bad man

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ITraffic

sounds legit.

Colmike9

Well, not THAT bad, but I remember about that much traffic making me less than $100 once..

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mechanicvirus

Do you mean 1 million sent directly to sponsors, or total unique hits a site/sites got?