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SuckOnThis · 12-03-2015, 04:50 PM

This bill would have simply have closed the background check loophole and prevent people on the no fly list from purchasing guns.

Why do Republicans want terrorists to be able to buy guns?

GOP = Guns Over People

Senate GOP rejects Dem gun amendments

dyna mo · 12-03-2015, 04:57 PM

Sounds like a clusterfuck dems attached those amendments to the defunding planned parenthood bill which BO has promised to veto anyway.

MK Ultra · 12-03-2015, 04:57 PM

A purely symbolic political vote, completely meaningless since it was going to be vetoed anyway

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Senate Democrats made a last-minute effort to attach two amendments to Senate Republicans’ legislation to defund Planned Parenthood and repeal parts of Obamacare. The amendments, which would have expanded background checks and made it harder for known or suspected terrorists to purchase guns,

The amendments would have been part of the reconciliation package — a complex budgetary tool Republicans are using, because it requires only 51 votes, to send their policy priorities over to President Barack Obama’s desk. The White House has said the president will veto the legislation.

for what it's worth I partly agree with the demorats about it, but they need to be more honest about it and not just use it to play gotcha politics.

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fucking happy now?

TCLGirls · 12-03-2015, 05:18 PM

Missed opportunity by the GOP...because they could have allowed the amendments, and then call Obama's bluff regarding his threat of veto. If Obama still vetoed the bill, then the GOP would have an easy attack issue: "OMG!! Obama (and by extension all Democrats) care more about killing babies than protecting US citizens from terror!!!!".

But maybe the GOP legislature was afraid that Obama would actually signed the bill, thus making it look like the GOP was in favor of a "liberal agenda".

bronco67 · 12-03-2015, 05:20 PM

They're beyond fucking obstinate on this issue.

bronco67 · 12-03-2015, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

This bill would have simply have closed the background check loophole and prevent people on the no fly list from purchasing guns.

Why do Republicans want terrorists to be able to buy guns?

GOP = Guns Over People

Senate GOP rejects Dem gun amendments

It's not that they want to allow terrorists to buy guns -- but it's a more acceptable choice than pissing off sugar daddy NRA.

L-Pink · 12-03-2015, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

Sounds like a clusterfuck dems attached those amendments to the defunding planned parenthood bill which BO has promised to veto anyway.

Shhhh .... don't ruin his fun.

Rochard · 12-03-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

This bill would have simply have closed the background check loophole and prevent people on the no fly list from purchasing guns.

Seems like the proper thing to do.

MakingItPay · 12-03-2015, 06:34 PM

They should just make murdering people illegal too. This would stop it immediately since nobody wants to break the law.

baddog · 12-03-2015, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

This bill would have simply have closed the background check loophole and prevent people on the no fly list from purchasing guns.

Why do Republicans want terrorists to be able to buy guns?

GOP = Guns Over People

Senate GOP rejects Dem gun amendments

Not that simple and I hate to agree with Paul Ryan but there is no due process to being put on a no fly list. Flying on a plane is not protected by the Constitution, gun ownership is.

baddog · 12-03-2015, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Again, if you are on a "no fly" list then why the fuck are you not arrested? Why are you in this country to begin with?

Ryan feels the same way. If they are terrorists, try them and jail them.

sperbonzo · 12-03-2015, 08:56 PM

You guys realize that anyone can be placed on the no fly list with no recourse and no way to even find out why? I despair as to how trusting so many of you seem to be in the government.

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ilnjscb · 12-03-2015, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MakingItPay

They should just make murdering people illegal too. This would stop it immediately since nobody wants to break the law.

ilnjscb · 12-03-2015, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

You guys realize that anyone can be placed on the no fly list with no recourse and no way to even find out why? I despair as to how trusting so many of you seem to be in the government.

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And I despair of your despair, sir! I'm sure the 5 trillion we've lost on useless foreign wars will turn up any day now, washed and folded.

TCLGirls · 12-03-2015, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Again, if you are on a "no fly" list then why the fuck are you not arrested? Why are you in this country to begin with?

Because being on the no-fly list means the government has a suspicion you might commit a terrorist type crime in the future.. Where as being arrested means the government has probable cause to believe you already committed a crime.

sperbonzo · 12-03-2015, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

And I despair of your despair, sir! I'm sure the 5 trillion we've lost on useless foreign wars will turn up any day now, washed and folded.

Right? Yeah, I'm holding my breath as well... Any day now.

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2MuchMark · 12-03-2015, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

GOP = Guns Over People

Yep - I heard about this today. In the middle of YET ANOTHER shooting in the US, Republicans again, fail to do a damn thing about it.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

Sounds like a clusterfuck dems attached those amendments to the defunding planned parenthood bill which BO has promised to veto anyway.

You. Head. Sand.

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Missed opportunity by the GOP...because they could have allowed the amendments, and then call Obama's bluff regarding his threat of veto. .

Possibly, but not just to call Obama's bluff. They could have done one thing - just one little thing - to show they actually give 2 shits. But they don't. They never will.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Again, if you are on a "no fly" list then why the fuck are you not arrested? Why are you in this country to begin with?

Good question. Maybe its strictly a legal thing. Maybe there is enough evidence to keep someone off of a plane but not enough to arrest them and keep them in jail? Who knows.

j3rkules · 12-04-2015, 05:24 AM

Gun violence has gone down in the last few decades, despite more people owning guns. More guns equals less crime, that is a fact. Of course government will not accept this so they are doing everything they can to ban guns from spinning statistics, to staging gun deaths (like Sandy Hook) to brainwash people into wanting more gun control. I suspect before the 2016 presidential election we a going to have more "incidences" of gun violence to help drive the election to the Democrats, or distract the public from other stories like Hillary's emails.

sperbonzo · 12-04-2015, 06:52 AM

The American Civil Liberties Union, which estimates that the watch list includes more than 1 million names, calls it a "virtually standardless" dragnet that "ensnares innocent people and encourages racial and religious profiling." Although the list is supposedly limited to people "reasonably suspected of being involved in terrorist activity," something like two-fifths have "no recognized terrorist group affiliation."

Since innocent people who end up on the list have little recourse, it is neither fair nor reasonable to strip them of their constitutional rights. While people convicted of felonies or facing felony indictments are barred from buying guns undercurrent law, not even an arrest is necessary to put someone on the watch list.

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dyna mo · 12-04-2015, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Yep - I heard about this today. In the middle of YET ANOTHER shooting in the US, Republicans again, fail to do a damn thing about it.

You. Head. Sand.

you dumbfuckwad, i simply stated the facts- the dems attached the amendments to the defunding planned parenthood bill, don't blame me because you're too fucking stupid to figure out

1) dems don't want planned parenthood defunded, that's a republican sponsored bill and

2) BO has already promised to veto it.

and most importantly,

3) you're a dumbfuckwad.

TCLGirls · 12-04-2015, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The American Civil Liberties Union, which estimates that the watch list includes more than 1 million names, calls it a "virtually standardless" dragnet that "ensnares innocent people and encourages racial and religious profiling." Although the list is supposedly limited to people "reasonably suspected of being involved in terrorist activity," something like two-fifths have "no recognized terrorist group affiliation."

Since innocent people who end up on the list have little recourse, it is neither fair nor reasonable to strip them of their constitutional rights. While people convicted of felonies or facing felony indictments are barred from buying guns undercurrent law, not even an arrest is necessary to put someone on the watch list.

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!. It's already been understood that innocent people will be on the no-fly list. That's why those people are suspected of possibly planning a future crime...suspects are always legally deemed innocent until conviction.

2. Although a lower court has ruled no-fly list unconstitutional, the issue has not reached the SCOTUS yet, so the answer to that has not been fully determined.

TCLGirls · 12-04-2015, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Again, how can you be on the no fly list and still in the USA?!!! baffles me

Because the USA does not deport people simply for being suspected of thinking about committing a future crime...and for those suspects born in the US, its illegal for the government to deport those US born citizens anyhow...where would they deport them to in the first place?

SuckOnThis · 12-04-2015, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

It's not that they want to allow terrorists to buy guns -- but it's a more acceptable choice than pissing off sugar daddy NRA.

The NRA/GOP loves mass shootings, its great for business.

Gun industry execs admit business booms following mass shootings

dyna mo · 12-04-2015, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

The NRA and GOP loves mass shootings, its great for business.

Gun industry execs admit business booms following mass shootings

so a Dick's sporting goods exec says sales go up after spree shootings therefore, 150 million republicans love mass shootings,

am i getting your logic?

you do realize it's simply a fact he's sharing right? sporting goods retailers, the NRA and the GOP are not in cahoots to propel mass shootings as a marketing program to increase gun sales.

you do know that right?

SuckOnThis · 12-04-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

so a Dick's sporting goods exec says sales go up after spree shootings therefore, 150 million republicans love mass shootings,

am i getting your logic?

you do realize it's simply a fact he's sharing right? sporting goods retailers, the NRA and the GOP are not in cahoots to propel mass shootings as a marketing program to increase gun sales.

you do know that right?

I do know that the NRA is ran by gun manufacturers and of course the totally insane Ted Nugent. And yes, they have a vested interest in selling more guns. Their whole purpose is to create fear to sell more weapons, you don't have to be a genius to figure that one out.

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?You can see after a tragedy, there?s also a lot of buying,? Jeff Buchanan, the chief financial officer of Smith & Wesson, said two years ago.

Last year, Tommy Millner, the chief executive of Cabela?s, a retailer that sells guns, boasted at an investor conference in Nebraska that his company made a ?conscious decision? to stock additional weapons merchandise before the 2012 election, hoping President Obama?s reelection would result in increased sales.

Not only was Obama reelected, but a gunman opened fire later that year at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., and ?the business went vertical.?

James Debney, Smith & Wesson?s chief executive, told investors in 2013 that ?the tragedy in Newtown and the legislative landscape? resulted in sales that were ?significantly up.?

dyna mo · 12-04-2015, 11:31 AM

none of that has any bearing on the fact that those retail execs are simply stating a fact, their sales go up after a shooting.

speaking of facts, i don't think nugent runs the NRA

L-Pink · 12-04-2015, 11:38 AM

Lots of panties on fire in this thread.

AaronM · 12-04-2015, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Again, how can you be on the no fly list and still in the USA?!!! baffles me

How can a person open fire on a crowd full of women and children then post in multiple GFY threads about people's rights? Fuck if I know but somebody in this thread is guilty of just that.

SuckOnThis · 12-04-2015, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

none of that has any bearing on the fact that those retail execs are simply stating a fact, their sales go up after a shooting.

speaking of facts, i don't think nugent runs the NRA

Nugent is a board member on the NRA.

SuckOnThis · 12-04-2015, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Lots of panties on fire in this thread.

I suspect you have drawers full of burnt panties from all the criminal cops you defended getting arrested.

dyna mo · 12-04-2015, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Nugent is a board member on the NRA.

how many board members do they have? 100? he doesn't run the NRA though.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 61,646	Sounds like a clusterfuck dems attached those amendments to the defunding planned parenthood bill which BO has promised to veto anyway.

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TCLGirls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 3,068	Missed opportunity by the GOP...because they could have allowed the amendments, and then call Obama's bluff regarding his threat of veto. If Obama still vetoed the bill, then the GOP would have an easy attack issue: "OMG!! Obama (and by extension all Democrats) care more about killing babies than protecting US citizens from terror!!!!". But maybe the GOP legislature was afraid that Obama would actually signed the bill, thus making it look like the GOP was in favor of a "liberal agenda".

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sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,739	The American Civil Liberties Union, which estimates that the watch list includes more than 1 million names, calls it a "virtually standardless" dragnet that "ensnares innocent people and encourages racial and religious profiling." Although the list is supposedly limited to people "reasonably suspected of being involved in terrorist activity," something like two-fifths have "no recognized terrorist group affiliation." Since innocent people who end up on the list have little recourse, it is neither fair nor reasonable to strip them of their constitutional rights. While people convicted of felonies or facing felony indictments are barred from buying guns undercurrent law, not even an arrest is necessary to put someone on the watch list. .

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